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Deep State Witch

(10,458 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 04:28 PM Jun 2022

On Being "Woke"

I saw Anthony Rapp and Wilson Cruz from "Star Trek: Discovery" over the weekend at AwesomeCon. Someone asked them about the whole controversy about Star Trek being too "woke". Here's what Wilson had to say.

I want to say I’m so tired of this negative connotation for the word ‘woke’. You want to stay asleep? You want to close your eyes, and you know [and] have a nice slumber that allows you to imagine a world where everyone is the same, and you know, everyone loves the same way and identifies the same way? That is boring s–t! And it’s not real.

So you are asleep, and I prefer to be wide awake. I prefer to see people for exactly who they are and appreciate them. And maybe I don’t understand, or maybe I don’t identify exactly with your experience, but I respect you as a human being for having it. And all I require from you is that you give me that same respect in return. And if that’s being ‘woke,’ then I’m woke.

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On Being "Woke" (Original Post) Deep State Witch Jun 2022 OP
Very well said Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #1
Pukes have a word for everything right and good... The Unmitigated Gall Jun 2022 #2
Their "marketing" need some work inthewind21 Jun 2022 #4
yes Skittles Jun 2022 #19
Love it. Hit the R'Pughs with that. ificandream Jun 2022 #3
"Woke" is so much better than the alternative. Martin Eden Jun 2022 #5
Bingo. I'll gladly be accused of having an open mind and an open heart. What could be better? mjvpi Jun 2022 #11
Helping to build a better society Martin Eden Jun 2022 #14
You're correct. Socialist should have made the list. mjvpi Jun 2022 #15
In my household growing up BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #6
Then go back to sleep, pukes world wide wally Jun 2022 #7
"Woke" is a Black idiom appropriated by white supremacists and anti-Democratic corporate forces. ancianita Jun 2022 #8
will someone tell me please in a form of a scentance what this means ? thanks AllaN01Bear Jun 2022 #9
I much prefer to be woke Handler Jun 2022 #10
The same cretinous cousin-humpers who think "Sleepy Joe" is a devastatingly clever putdown ... 11 Bravo Jun 2022 #12
GOP IN A COMA Dirty Socialist Jun 2022 #13
The Dem Party should be adamantly and vocally against "wokeness" as a pose. gulliver Jun 2022 #16
K&R MustLoveBeagles Jun 2022 #17
"Woke" is a complicated term. Behind the Aegis Jun 2022 #18
Repukes only say "WOKE" cause the meaning of Enlightend is beyond them. TigressDem Jun 2022 #20
Woke Aware, Alert, Informed. Traits that brainless cult members do not have. Samrob Jun 2022 #21
 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
4. Their "marketing" need some work
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 05:30 PM
Jun 2022

A very lot. Teabagging Teabaggers. Sponsored by Dick Army! LMAO I'm never going to stop shaking my head at that one.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
19. yes
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 01:59 AM
Jun 2022

they have demonized feminism, being anti-fascist and now being enlightened - they want everyone as ignorant and bigoted at them

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
5. "Woke" is so much better than the alternative.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 06:22 PM
Jun 2022

Last edited Mon Jun 6, 2022, 07:36 PM - Edit history (1)

The ignorati have long used "liberal" as a pejorative, and now they're attacking "woke" the same way.

We should never be defensive or back down to those deplorable bigots. Wear it proudly and righteously throw their ignorance back in their faces!

mjvpi

(1,389 posts)
15. You're correct. Socialist should have made the list.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:42 PM
Jun 2022

I’ll accept being called a Democratic Socialist, although I’m a life long registered Democrat. I believe that is what FDR and Kennedy/Johnson were doing. But I’m an old, life long Democrat. My idealism is still intact. I think that interdependence can be synergetic. Screw Ayn Rand.

BumRushDaShow

(129,465 posts)
6. In my household growing up
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 06:37 PM
Jun 2022

one of the exhortations that my mom would say all the time was "Don't let them define you". And she meant it too... She would quickly say "Don't define me" to anyone who tried to pull out some bullshit about her.

That's my advice to Democrats. Don't EVER let someone else "define you" and what you stand for or believe.

ancianita

(36,133 posts)
8. "Woke" is a Black idiom appropriated by white supremacists and anti-Democratic corporate forces.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 06:47 PM
Jun 2022

It's their cover for their racist politics. Here's more on "woke."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
12. The same cretinous cousin-humpers who think "Sleepy Joe" is a devastatingly clever putdown ...
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 07:21 PM
Jun 2022

also seem to think that "woke" is equally pejorative.

Dumb asses - each and every one of them.


gulliver

(13,195 posts)
16. The Dem Party should be adamantly and vocally against "wokeness" as a pose.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:10 PM
Jun 2022

I think that the vast majority of Dems find it extremely annoying and an immoral drain on our credibility. It's priggish and vain at best. It's just not something people tend to notice about themselves, so they do it with what they think are good intentions. It's a shame, but it's just no good as a position and even less good as a pose.

People can, of course, say what they want about themselves, claim to be whatever they want to claim, claim enlightenment and agree to agree with themselves that's what they've achieved. Those folks just should be kept away from the Dem mic when what they say bungles for us all. The Dem mic should be used to say, "The non-team-playing, self-elected, ineloquent, off-putting 'activists' speak only for themselves."

Behind the Aegis

(53,987 posts)
18. "Woke" is a complicated term.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:16 AM
Jun 2022

The original meaning, I fully am behind it. The white appropriation of it, not so much. It is used much more as a "purity" test. The RW version...why should we really fucking care how they use it or misuse it? Inclusivity is not synonymous with "woke" and those who use it that way are looking at the idea in the wrong way. That said, there are those on our side who use it, as I said earlier, as a purity test or to jam their verion (or the latest version) of "wokeness" down the throats of people, usually on our side. "Star Trek: Discovery" is very good at inclusivity and bringing in topics of that nature without it being at an "after school special" level of finger-wagging.

Any good idea or concept can be perverted, misused, or distorted. Sometimes, it can be difficult to see or admit when a good idea is being corrupted, but it happens. Political correctness is another idea, if executed well, is useful to liberalism and progress, but if it is not, then it is a shitshow.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
20. Repukes only say "WOKE" cause the meaning of Enlightend is beyond them.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 09:42 AM
Jun 2022

And Educated.
And Empathetic.
And Compassionate.
And most words containing more than 5 letters.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
21. Woke Aware, Alert, Informed. Traits that brainless cult members do not have.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 09:48 AM
Jun 2022

They hate us for our "wokeness"

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