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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Police Should Have Started Shooting
I thought it then when I watched it live, and I'm absolutely thinking it now.
Johnny2X2X
(19,095 posts)It could have been much deadlier. When they broke windows if they would have shot the first few people who came through it would have ended it.
onecaliberal
(32,880 posts)Diablo del sol
(424 posts)would have no issue with them being mowed down.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Bucky
(54,041 posts)Even if our enemies don't live by the code of proportional response and deescalation of tensions, the friends of democracy need to. The Capitol Police held the line and people who support the rule of "We the People" need to hold the line too.
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enough
(13,262 posts)Jake97
(19 posts)Trolling is allowed here, just dont admit it
WarGamer
(12,463 posts)Diablo del sol
(424 posts)This was not a riot gone bad. Why was Tarrio carrying high cap magazines? Answer is simple, to kill as many liberals as he could once they brought the weapons in via the river.
So they breached the Capital, as soon as that occurred it was no longer a riot. No longer civil disobedience. No longer one set of rules for repukes and another for liberals. It is the only thing they understand.
Wounded Bear
(58,685 posts)the fact is there weren't enough cops there to stem the riot, and opening fire would have just increased the blood lust of the rioters.
dalton99a
(81,565 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Bucky
(54,041 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,109 posts)honestly, by both sides.
Bucky
(54,041 posts)There were definitely gun in the crowd. Had the police or anyone started shooting, it would have been a blood bath.
The bloodshed would have been historically clarifying (and that's why people in the 19th century said that war was history's forest fires), but it would have been bad for civilization itself.
I'm angry at them too, but we need to deescalate the attacks on civilization, not build to a climax.
https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2021/09/trump-extremists-guns-january-6-insurrection-congress-domestic-terrorism/
Emile
(22,861 posts)Our country was under attack by traitors!
Justice matters.
(6,939 posts)they will.
dweller
(23,648 posts)It was in a memo from some higher up that were not to be armed
Hope someone finds it, and can back me up
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Bucky
(54,041 posts)dweller
(23,648 posts)Not the insurrectionists
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You're thinking the D.C. National Guard...both Capitol police officers and MPD were armed! Remember Sergeant Fanone testified that the traitors were trying to take his weapon from him...when he was grabbed and dragged into the crowd...Fanone was a member of MPD!
Also it was a Capitol police officer who shot the woman that was attempting to climb through a window!
dweller
(23,648 posts)I just remember the memo (read it) but it was very long ago
And Ill wonder along with others, why didnt they open fire
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Bucky
(54,041 posts)dweller
(23,648 posts)Not the insurrectionists
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Bobstandard
(1,315 posts)Some may not have been armed but others clearly were.
enough
(13,262 posts)enough
(13,262 posts)Where do you think we would be now if that had been a massacre?
Mr.Bill
(24,312 posts)ellie
(6,929 posts)They should have shot every one of those Anti-American motherfuckers.
MichMan
(11,958 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)another dozen dead terrorists would've stemmed the tide.
nolabear
(41,990 posts)I dont know what I think about what they should have done. But I know they wouldnt have made it out alive.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,386 posts)mvd
(65,179 posts)Trump obviously knew about it beforehand and left the Capitol unguarded. Then he didnt call reinforcements. If the officers just started shooting everyone, Trump probably would have declared martial law. Hes that demented.
crickets
(25,982 posts)Martial Law was part of the plan. Because the guns didn't come out on either side, tfg was robbed of the excuse.
Red Mountain
(1,737 posts)If I were in charge, I'd have authorized lethal force
If I were there defending the Capital, I'd have used it.
It would have been awful and given our international enemies a lot of material.
Could you imagine blood running down the Capital steps?
They made the right choice......if we recognize the amazing restraint they showed.
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)If I was there and in charge it would have been a much worse event. A river of fascist blood would have flowed down the steps.
It would have been more seriously violent.
But fortunately very calm cops did the right thing. They didn't escalate the situation.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Murdered Pence, Pelosi and others at what point do you draw a line and do whatever is needed to prevent a bloodbath and to defend peoples lives..
Crunchy Frog
(26,610 posts)If it had been BLM, there would have been piles of bodies.
Chainfire
(17,587 posts)It is a national shame that, with all of the hints, of potential violence, in the days leading up to the insurrection, that just a handful of cops were left to deal with thousands of angry protesters. That is another issued that needs an investigation.
The courage of the Capitol Police, delaying the breech, against overwhelming odds, is what saved the lives of the lawmakers.
MichMan
(11,958 posts)ecstatic
(32,726 posts)Kaleva
(36,325 posts)DemocraticPatriot
(4,383 posts)All the potential targets were actual traitors, after all....
Kid Berwyn
(14,939 posts)Then MF45 could declare Marshall Law.
MichMan
(11,958 posts)Hopefully we've learned something
Pyryck
(99 posts)Because then he would have cause to declare martial, put a hold on everything and made himself out to be the hero of the day.
jalan48
(13,878 posts)pfitz59
(10,382 posts)Trump would have had an excuse to declare Martial Law
Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)It wasnt allowed to stand - but I believed it then, I believe it now.
Shellback Squid
(8,924 posts)the organizers knew this
BannonsLiver
(16,434 posts)I agree with those who say Trump might have used it to his advantage but I also think a few well placed rounds probably sends about 3/4 of those imps running for the hills, particularly when they breached the outer perimeter and were running en mass to the steps. In that scenario there might have been fewer people there to breach the actual building making it more or a fair fight for police.
Of course its all hindsight.
ecstatic
(32,726 posts)It was kind of shocking to see the guns securely tucked away in their waistbands.
That said, once the nazis/insurrectionists breached the first perimeter, the cops probably figured (correctly) that they were outgunned. Can you imagine the carnage? It would have been terrible.
usajumpedtheshark
(672 posts)A black man holding a cell phone is killed because an officer felt unsafe but not traitors who are physically attacking the police?