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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 11:21 AM Jun 2022

Capitol Police: Barry Loudermilk led a 15-person tour in House office buildings on Jan. 5.

Loudermilk (R-Ga.) led a group of 12 people through a Rayburn House Office Building on Jan. 5, a group that later “grew to 15 people,” Capitol Police Chief Thomas Manger wrote in a June 13 letter to Republicans on the House Administration Committee. His report confirms evidence that the Jan. 6 select committee said it had last month.

The tour: According to Manger, a group of 12 of Loudermilk’s constituents arrived at the Rayburn building at 11 a.m. and met with a congressional staffer. The group, which Manger says “later grew to 15 people,” headed toward Loudermilk’s office. Though they were out of camera-shot for a while, the group reappeared on Capitol complex security cameras at 1 p.m. in the basement of the Cannon House Office Building, which features several exhibits. While perusing the exhibits, Loudermilk “separated from the group” and exited the complex through the nearby Longworth House Office Building, Manger noted.

“The group continued in the Cannon [building] without Representative Loudermilk,” Manger continued. “At no time did the group appear in any tunnels that would have led them to the U.S. Capitol.”

Manger noted that none of the activity Capitol Police observed on Jan. 5 tours qualified as “suspicious” or evidence of “reconnaissance” by would-be rioters.

The shifting story: Loudermilk’s description of his tour group has changed markedly, as POLITICO has reported. In a radio interview during the Capitol attack, he acknowledged having “about a dozen people” in his office. Last month, Loudermilk described the group as “a constituent family with young children.” And a day later, Loudermilk said the family also had some “guests” that joined them.


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Capitol Police: Barry Loudermilk led a 15-person tour in House office buildings on Jan. 5. (Original Post) kpete Jun 2022 OP
"At no time did the group appear in any tunnels that would have led them to the U.S. Capitol." brooklynite Jun 2022 #1
The group was out of camera for "awhile" according to the report Deminpenn Jun 2022 #3
There are additional security checkpoints (and cameras) leading to the tunnels to the Capitol. brooklynite Jun 2022 #4
The point is, they could have found out the directions and Deminpenn Jun 2022 #5
And they know this for a fact? calimary Jun 2022 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #2
Wondering what those "touring" right before the attempted coup Hortensis Jun 2022 #6
Right, the building was closed to the public due to COVID. Novara Jun 2022 #7
Exactly. intheflow Jun 2022 #14
If I allowed such a preposterous security breach where I work Grokenstein Jun 2022 #19
Here's an idea Mortos Jun 2022 #8
Does it seem this has not already been done? It would be hard to believe this hasn't been explored. jaxexpat Jun 2022 #11
It seems a lot of our assumptions are false NullTuples Jun 2022 #17
Traitors Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #9
That's one subject I've never seen addressed KS Toronado Jun 2022 #10
If a single person from that your was there on Jan 6 Bristlecone Jun 2022 #12
Is there any manner of checking in with the Congressional person's office or the Capitol Building? Scottie Mom Jun 2022 #13
Get their names- see if any were involved in the riot the next day. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2022 #15
You know good and damned well they know every name of every person who was in that group. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #16
The Rayburn House Office Building is one of three House of Reps office buildings NullTuples Jun 2022 #18

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
1. "At no time did the group appear in any tunnels that would have led them to the U.S. Capitol."
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 11:37 AM
Jun 2022

This is a point people are ignoring. ANYONE can normally walk in to the House and Senate office buildings (after clearing security). There isn't a lot of intel to be gleaned from them for a Capitol Building incursion.

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
3. The group was out of camera for "awhile" according to the report
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 12:07 PM
Jun 2022

They could have been doing anything. The cameras never caught them in the tunnels, but maybe they got directions on how to get there when they were off camera. Any why did Loudermilk leave them to their own devices, apparently completely unaccompanied by even a staffer?

Further, iirc, according to one of DoJ's indictments of the Proud Boys/Oath Keepers, part of the plan was to invade the office buildings as well as the Capitol Building itself. They could have been doing recon of the office buildings for that part of the plan although it never materialized.

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
5. The point is, they could have found out the directions and
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 12:13 PM
Jun 2022

not necessarily gone to the tunnel entrances. Neither you nor I have any idea what the group was doing when they were off camera.

calimary

(81,345 posts)
20. And they know this for a fact?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 02:29 PM
Jun 2022

Does that include the gap where they were out of the view of security cameras?

How can they do blithely make a claim like this?

Response to kpete (Original post)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Wondering what those "touring" right before the attempted coup
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 12:33 PM
Jun 2022

feel about their tour, and seditionist Loudermilk, now? What it brought down on them must have been extremely inconvenient at very least.

Novara

(5,844 posts)
7. Right, the building was closed to the public due to COVID.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 12:38 PM
Jun 2022

So we have one of the Sedition Caucus lying about giving illegal tours when the buildings were closed to the public, and then leaving them to wander around unaccompanied?

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Why did he lie if this is so perfectly innocent?

intheflow

(28,480 posts)
14. Exactly.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 01:38 PM
Jun 2022

No tours were supposed to be happening due to COVID. A tour happened - which conveniently didn't have any kind of sign-in log - a day before the insurrection, given by a loudmouth Trumpist. That's suspicious enough for me.

Grokenstein

(5,726 posts)
19. If I allowed such a preposterous security breach where I work
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 02:01 PM
Jun 2022

I'd be bounced out on my ass before I could even clock in.

Mortos

(2,390 posts)
8. Here's an idea
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 12:58 PM
Jun 2022

Find out who the 12-15 people were, surely there is some sort of visitor log, and have the FBI INTERVIEW THEM...

Maybe that will sort out this mystery without an answer.

jaxexpat

(6,837 posts)
11. Does it seem this has not already been done? It would be hard to believe this hasn't been explored.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 01:20 PM
Jun 2022

Investigate that group, that day and any other persons brought into the complex in November, December and early January by GOP personnel. Are there really elements withing the capitol police who would stonewall an attempt to uncover such information?

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
17. It seems a lot of our assumptions are false
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 01:48 PM
Jun 2022

Assumptions like "everyone must sign in and show ID" and "surely Capitol security cameras provide complete coverage"...

Kid Berwyn

(14,921 posts)
9. Traitors
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 01:03 PM
Jun 2022

“Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me and the R. Congressmen,” Trump said on the call, according to Donoghue's notes.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/30/politics/trump-election-justice/index.html

KS Toronado

(17,270 posts)
10. That's one subject I've never seen addressed
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jun 2022

How many in these guided tours showed up on the 6th, maybe the Committee will be telling us.
Anybody seen any articles on this subject?

Bristlecone

(10,129 posts)
12. If a single person from that your was there on Jan 6
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 01:30 PM
Jun 2022

He should be expelled from office. No f’in way is this not conspiracy. F’ing traitor.

Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
13. Is there any manner of checking in with the Congressional person's office or the Capitol Building?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 01:33 PM
Jun 2022

IMO, these "tour guides" need to fork over the names. Who the hell did they lead through there the day before the attempted coup!

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
18. The Rayburn House Office Building is one of three House of Reps office buildings
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 01:56 PM
Jun 2022

169 Reps have their offices there, similar to how Speaker Pelosi's office was in the Capitol building itself.

Just because they didn't end up storming this one doesn't mean the tour wasn't for recognizance.

Did the group meet with any other GOP Representatives involved in the coup or visit their offices while they were there?

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