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Chainfire

(17,559 posts)
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 02:53 PM Jun 2022

I wish you all good luck and goodbye.

I am a bit disheartened by the attacks on post that are not in lock-step with the general views of the members. I find that the effective censorship of dissenting opinions to be neither Democratic nor progressive. To equate unpopular views with spouting right-wing trolling just does not set well. While, I realize that my exit will not break a lot of hearts, I want you to know that the person who left was, and will remain a life-long yellow dog Democrat who is leaving over perceived intolerance by his fellow liberals.

I have certainly enjoyed my time here and some of the lively discussions, and wish the forum well.

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I wish you all good luck and goodbye. (Original Post) Chainfire Jun 2022 OP
That "general view" is not nearly as broadly general as they would like us to think. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2022 #1
Well, I hope you don't leave. zuul Jun 2022 #2
+1 also block key words or phrases.. works for me!!nt mitch96 Jun 2022 #8
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jun 2022 #16
This was life changing GreenEyedLefty Jun 2022 #64
I have been called "trash", a "no different than a fascist", a "communist", an "extremist"... ck4829 Jun 2022 #3
I am definitely several of those things anarch Jun 2022 #17
Make waves Handler Jun 2022 #72
I understand but implore you to stay and stand your ground. You have every right to voice your LoisB Jun 2022 #4
plus 1 Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #9
In the final analysis it's an internet message board. lpbk2713 Jun 2022 #5
True words. blm Jun 2022 #7
Sometimes the words we use invite attack by pwb Jun 2022 #6
"I own guns, believe in God, and marriage." Does this mean you don't agree with marriage equality? beaglelover Jun 2022 #22
I don't have to explain my beliefs to anyone. pwb Jun 2022 #25
Who asked you to explain? Your response answered my question. beaglelover Jun 2022 #26
Says you. pwb Jun 2022 #28
I will as will others. Happy Pride Month!! beaglelover Jun 2022 #32
It is PTSD awareness month too. pwb Jun 2022 #33
Happy pride month!!! gay texan Jun 2022 #37
Happy Pride to all our LGBTQ DUers and their loved ones! demmiblue Jun 2022 #51
Thank you, demmiblue!! beaglelover Jun 2022 #66
Happy pride month to you as well, gay texan! beaglelover Jun 2022 #71
If you're getting blowback, it just means you're thinking for yourself Sympthsical Jun 2022 #10
... BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #53
+100. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #61
... Faux pas Jun 2022 #11
We all get posts hidden now and again. Depends on the jury. Stick around, this is a great board. emulatorloo Jun 2022 #12
Oh, crap! Don't go! Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #13
I get stuff hidden for right wing talking point crap. Appeal it and move on. Nevilledog Jun 2022 #14
I agree with much of what you write & hope you don't leave. CrispyQ Jun 2022 #15
I have never been in lockstep with the General views here... brooklynite Jun 2022 #18
I hope you choose to stay! SheltieLover Jun 2022 #19
You can take your sanctimonious diatribe with you when you leave ZonkerHarris Jun 2022 #20
Ever notice how some posters use every single post to attack others or make fun of them? Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #24
Some people just don't know how to be friendly SunImp Jun 2022 #56
+++ Holier than thou. n/t Peregrine Took Jun 2022 #52
Oh my. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #57
.... MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #62
I'm new but I'm contemplating walking for precisely the same reason. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #21
You can't imagine how many people I have on Ignore! bif Jun 2022 #23
that way, you do not see a lot of posts RussBLib Jun 2022 #31
Same here. n/t shrike3 Jun 2022 #41
Ignore and trash thread are gifts nt XanaDUer2 Jun 2022 #47
I will miss you big time malaise Jun 2022 #27
The problem is the politics of compromise. walkingman Jun 2022 #29
If your choice to leave is based on attacks, don't go. Big Blue Marble Jun 2022 #30
I agree that there is a lot of "group think" around here. totodeinhere Jun 2022 #34
+1 SunImp Jun 2022 #49
Sometimes all your post needs is some time. Remember the back and forth after Jan 6 usajumpedtheshark Jun 2022 #35
This happens too often on here Doc Sportello Jun 2022 #36
+1 SunImp Jun 2022 #39
I agree 100%, this place is a shithole of herd mentality these days, I hate it Shanti Shanti Shanti Jun 2022 #38
there's an abundance of crap going on in the world right now. IcyPeas Jun 2022 #40
I've enjoyed your posts. shrike3 Jun 2022 #42
You can often talk to like minded people and ignore the rest. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #43
One option could be H2O Man Jun 2022 #44
My friend here just left XanaDUer2 Jun 2022 #45
I'll agree there's sniping, Torchlight Jun 2022 #46
There are asses who act like they'll win a prize if they spot supposed "intruders" and call them out Silent3 Jun 2022 #48
+1 SunImp Jun 2022 #50
The Sunshine Police. CrispyQ Jun 2022 #59
I've read your posts and think you are an asset to DU. Hope you reconsidr Kaleva Jun 2022 #54
Sorry to hear this. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #55
GBCW! Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #58
In all my years as a Marine, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #60
OP - please stay, stand your ground, type out your opinions and share them Pyryck Jun 2022 #63
Coming to that conclusion myself. AngryOldDem Jun 2022 #65
Unwritten rule of DU, must have (or helps to have) thick skin to play in GD. Hotler Jun 2022 #67
It can be a little daunting ripcord Jun 2022 #68
Yeah... progressoid Jun 2022 #69
How about some context? What post? themaguffin Jun 2022 #70

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
1. That "general view" is not nearly as broadly general as they would like us to think.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 02:59 PM
Jun 2022

It does get annoying.

zuul

(14,627 posts)
2. Well, I hope you don't leave.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:00 PM
Jun 2022

Try putting the negative folks on 'ignore.' Makes the DU experience much more pleasant.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
3. I have been called "trash", a "no different than a fascist", a "communist", an "extremist"...
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:08 PM
Jun 2022

I was disappointed and had the same thought as you, then I realized that was me making waves.

We need more wave-makers in American politics, and even here on this forum. Especially here.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
17. I am definitely several of those things
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:36 PM
Jun 2022

and an "authoritarian" to boot. Whatever, liberals...I guess, sort of like 3/4 Anakin Skywalker said to his old martial arts teacher, "I am what you made me."

LoisB

(7,212 posts)
4. I understand but implore you to stay and stand your ground. You have every right to voice your
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:11 PM
Jun 2022

opinion(s).

lpbk2713

(42,761 posts)
5. In the final analysis it's an internet message board.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:12 PM
Jun 2022


It doesn't judge your quality as a human being.

Best of luck however you decide.

pwb

(11,280 posts)
6. Sometimes the words we use invite attack by
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:12 PM
Jun 2022

the fringes of our party. I own guns, believe in God, and marriage. Do you know how many times I have been hammered by our progressive and liberal fringes? They don't even want me as a Democrat. Hope you come back. Usually when I am judged here badly by a jury I deserve it.

beaglelover

(3,487 posts)
22. "I own guns, believe in God, and marriage." Does this mean you don't agree with marriage equality?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:43 PM
Jun 2022

beaglelover

(3,487 posts)
26. Who asked you to explain? Your response answered my question.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:50 PM
Jun 2022

If you are a democrat, you are the first democrat I've ever met who does not believe in marriage equality.

Sympthsical

(9,081 posts)
10. If you're getting blowback, it just means you're thinking for yourself
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:21 PM
Jun 2022

It's the nature of social media where group mentality reigns.

One of the great things about being me is (and they are legion), I never care what the internet thinks about anything.

If someone's the 29th person to express the exact same opinion, I generally know something's being concealed underneath worth exploring. Or at least poking.

I am a giant fan of poking.

The world needs more pokers.

emulatorloo

(44,133 posts)
12. We all get posts hidden now and again. Depends on the jury. Stick around, this is a great board.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:23 PM
Jun 2022

I disagreed with your post, but people disagree w each other here all the time. Kinda of what makes the place interesting

Nevilledog

(51,137 posts)
14. I get stuff hidden for right wing talking point crap. Appeal it and move on.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:25 PM
Jun 2022

Your voice is appreciated by me and many others.

Don't leave, just take a breather.

CrispyQ

(36,482 posts)
15. I agree with much of what you write & hope you don't leave.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:35 PM
Jun 2022

There is a contingent on DU who think that any criticism of the Democratic Party is bashing. Some even call it trolling, but the truth is, trying to shut down opinions that one disagrees with by calling you a troll, is more anti-democratic than criticizing the party.

Stick around. This election is so critical. The one thing we all have in common is we want more dems elected.

Scrivener7

(50,957 posts)
24. Ever notice how some posters use every single post to attack others or make fun of them?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:46 PM
Jun 2022

It's interesting...

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
21. I'm new but I'm contemplating walking for precisely the same reason.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:41 PM
Jun 2022

This is the first place (ever) in my entire life when I've had to endure suggestions that I'm a right-winger or a captive of FOX News merely for holding positions that are clearly in the liberal Democratic mainstream.

Something is amiss here.

bif

(22,722 posts)
23. You can't imagine how many people I have on Ignore!
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:45 PM
Jun 2022

It makes my time spent on here quite a bit more enjoyable!

RussBLib

(9,025 posts)
31. that way, you do not see a lot of posts
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 04:11 PM
Jun 2022

I had not realized that having a person on Ignore means I don't see any of their OP's. I had thought I would not see any of their responses.

Turns out a momentary squabble was not a true indicator of their positions.

walkingman

(7,633 posts)
29. The problem is the politics of compromise.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:58 PM
Jun 2022

We have developed into a society where everyone looks for affirmation and not information. But the question becomes....where else can you go to discuss with like-minded people....certainly not my neighbors here in Texas.

Thank goodness for Democratic Underground.

Big Blue Marble

(5,103 posts)
30. If your choice to leave is based on attacks, don't go.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 04:08 PM
Jun 2022

DU seemingly often turns on its own. It is actually is only a few who attack you.
I have been attacked on several occasions, for saying things that offended someone.
It will happen with so many here. And I have never thought to leave; DU is too valuable
to me.

It is so easy to scream at people ominously. At the time, it stings, but that will pass. And do not
take it personally. I assure you that there are DU'ers here who would agree with you
whatever your opinion. If the attackers are really being obnoxious, put them on ignore and move
on otherwise just consider the source.

Self-righteous is a bitch, but there is a lot of it in left wing circles just ls like everywhere else.
Stick around and do not worry about people trolling you.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
34. I agree that there is a lot of "group think" around here.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 04:17 PM
Jun 2022

Some people are just so sure that they and only they are right that any deviation from that line to them is unacceptable. We usually see this type of inflexibility on both extremes of the political spectrum.

usajumpedtheshark

(672 posts)
35. Sometimes all your post needs is some time. Remember the back and forth after Jan 6
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 04:20 PM
Jun 2022

when some suggested that Trump and his Republican toadies deserved to be immediately arrested and put on trial?

Doc Sportello

(7,522 posts)
36. This happens too often on here
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 04:29 PM
Jun 2022

The jury system is used by some as a vigilante "justice" system to suppress or get rid of those who say things they don't agree with, but are in no way "bashing" or violating the TOS. Even Democrats make mistakes or take positions that are proven wrong in the long term. Pointing out facts is not bashing. Sometimes self-criticism is good for a party or group. We don't want to become like repubs.

IcyPeas

(21,894 posts)
40. there's an abundance of crap going on in the world right now.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 04:41 PM
Jun 2022

it's maddening.

But I would say please take a break -- but do not go.

I opted out of the jury system here.

shrike3

(3,662 posts)
42. I've enjoyed your posts.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 04:50 PM
Jun 2022

I don't post that often or get very involved in discussions; I'm mostly here for information.

Sorry you feel the board is not worth your input anymore. Good luck, godspeed.

H2O Man

(73,573 posts)
44. One option could be
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 04:53 PM
Jun 2022

to just step away for a bit. And to try to limit who and what you respond to here. Just a suggestion.

Torchlight

(3,344 posts)
46. I'll agree there's sniping,
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 04:54 PM
Jun 2022

but if it's anything like high school (and I think it is) that sniping is probably born out of a personal bitterness.

A trick I use in my daily life (I'm guessing they'd apply to internet sites as well): separate the chaff from the wheat, invest nothing into the chaff and allow those conceits zero consideration.

I was told I'd miss a lot of the juicy tantrums by using the ignore feature on seven or eight conspicuous annoyances, but to me that's a really good feature. Going back to reevaluate those choices since has convinced me I made the correct choice for me.

Silent3

(15,239 posts)
48. There are asses who act like they'll win a prize if they spot supposed "intruders" and call them out
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 05:09 PM
Jun 2022

They apparently think trolls and Russian bots (which probably do, occasionally, pass through here) are the only possible explanation for differences in opinion.

Or, that if you have a real, honest difference in opinion, you don't deserve to be treated better than a troll or a bot anyway.

Then there are the Sunshine Police, who believe anything but upbeat and encouraging posts are going to destroy (perhaps intentionally!) Democrats chances in the next elections.

It's tiresome. But at least I consider DU somewhat better these days in this regard. If you were around before the "Jackpine Radicals" took off to make their own hellhole elsewhere, you'd know what I mean.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
55. Sorry to hear this.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:16 PM
Jun 2022

Though I’m not a fan of GBCW posts, I hate to see someone who feels they have to leave because they don’t post with the narrative.

I know others who’ve left, for the same reason. Longtime posters who didn’t announce their departure. If we all go, then the place will become the echo chamber that some seem to prefer.

I hope you rethink. Or take a break and come back. I do that all the time.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,418 posts)
60. In all my years as a Marine,
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:26 AM
Jun 2022

I've learned to not give a fuck what others think of me, it has no bearing on my life, in real life and the internet.

Don't give up and leave, the hell what others think of you.

Pyryck

(99 posts)
63. OP - please stay, stand your ground, type out your opinions and share them
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:01 AM
Jun 2022

Don't turn your back and walk away silently or quietly into the night because it got too difficult or challenging to wade thru the jungle of thoughts, the forest of opinions, the fields of discussions.

Don't give up, give in or get disheartened.

I stood my watch, trying to protect you, me and every other American so that we ALL have the right to engage and discuss and share our opinions while exercising our Constitutional rights.

Please don't just thank veterans or police or firefighters or ems for our service. Honor our service by exercising what we all sought to protect, fought and died for, served and stood watch over - your right to freely voice your opinions in typed word or verbalized.

Please?

Your voice matters. Your vote matters. Your life matters. Through out the course of your life, you WILL touch other lives whether you know it, realize it or not.

Hotler

(11,428 posts)
67. Unwritten rule of DU, must have (or helps to have) thick skin to play in GD.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 11:31 AM
Jun 2022

Don't go, everybody here has been pissed or discouraged at one time. Take a breather and come back.

ripcord

(5,439 posts)
68. It can be a little daunting
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jun 2022

Especially having a post removed that is factual but some people just don't want to see. Keep at it and you will learn to get your point across without upsetting the pearl clutchers.

progressoid

(49,992 posts)
69. Yeah...
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:36 PM
Jun 2022

I'm not sure what caused your decision but it's true there are a contingent of people who would prefer we all toe the line.

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