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Nevilledog

(51,120 posts)
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:44 PM Jun 2022

Expected reversal of Miranda requires states to step up on policing



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The Supreme Court is likely to overturn its Miranda decision, which means it would be up to the state legislatures to decide whether police are required to warn people of their rights during an arrest.

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Expected reversal of Miranda requires states to step up on policing
While all eyes are focused on the recently leaked draft of the Supreme Court opinion on Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, which would end constitutional protections for aborti…
1:48 PM · Jun 15, 2022


https://thehill.com/opinion/congress-blog/3517724-expected-reversal-of-miranda-requires-states-to-step-up-on-policing/

While all eyes are focused on the recently leaked draft of the Supreme Court opinion on Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, which would end constitutional protections for abortion rights, a lesser-known case looks likely to erode another constitutional precedent—Miranda rights.

This case, Vega v. Tekoh, asks whether a person’s federal constitutional rights are violated if a police officer fails to inform them of their rights to remain silent, to be represented by an attorney, and to be protected against self-incrimination whenever the person is subjected to a custodial interrogation by the police. These warnings, known as Miranda warnings after the 1966 Supreme Court case that first prescribed them, have become critical protections against coercive police interrogations and are routinely recited by officers whenever they make arrests or question suspects in custody.

The Supreme Court now seems poised to reverse its decision in Miranda, which, much like Dobbs, would give states—and, to a significant extent, individual towns—the power to decide an important question of policy: whether police should be legally required to give these warnings.

Although some state high courts have issued rulings that mirror the Supreme Court’s original decision in Miranda, the future of constitutional policing in a world where Miranda is overruled truly lies with state legislatures, who can decide to enact laws that mirror the original Mirandadecisionor vote to overrule any state high court that already does so, freeing themselves to reshape one of policing’s most central restrictions.

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Expected reversal of Miranda requires states to step up on policing (Original Post) Nevilledog Jun 2022 OP
JFC, this is the first I've heard of this. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #1
stupid suprime court. i thought it said in the constitution that we have right to a lawyer . AllaN01Bear Jun 2022 #2
That is just plain stupid. The Miranda warnings have become standard operating police procedure Walleye Jun 2022 #3
rule by precident . here is your lying activeist judges people . AllaN01Bear Jun 2022 #4
Did Miranda rights almost disappear yorkster Jun 2022 #5
The rights won't disappear; overturning Miranda would just mean Ocelot II Jun 2022 #9
Ah, so in legalese "real sneaky-like". yorkster Jun 2022 #11
This has been one of the goals for the past 50 years, along with Roe Hassler Jun 2022 #6
I wonder if Brown v Board of Eduction is also in peril. With these fucknugget Comfortably_Numb Jun 2022 #7
Jesus! What's next? Ocelot II Jun 2022 #8
hold up qazplm135 Jun 2022 #10
... Crepuscular Jun 2022 #12
FFS HAB911 Jun 2022 #13

AllaN01Bear

(18,250 posts)
2. stupid suprime court. i thought it said in the constitution that we have right to a lawyer .
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:46 PM
Jun 2022

some one please correct me if im wrong . thanks .

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
3. That is just plain stupid. The Miranda warnings have become standard operating police procedure
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:47 PM
Jun 2022

Nobody is complaining about it. The police I have read actually like it. It lets the suspect know where he stands. That Miranda warning gets peoples attention. Now I wonder what they plan on fucking over next. Title nine maybe

yorkster

(1,497 posts)
5. Did Miranda rights almost disappear
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 10:55 PM
Jun 2022

several years ago or am I misremembering?
I recall some kerfuffle about Miranda, though it may not have gotten as fast as USSC.

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
9. The rights won't disappear; overturning Miranda would just mean
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 11:24 PM
Jun 2022

that they don't have to tell you about them.

Comfortably_Numb

(3,809 posts)
7. I wonder if Brown v Board of Eduction is also in peril. With these fucknugget
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 11:09 PM
Jun 2022

fascist justices I wouldn’t be surprised. Oh, and thank Odin the the government that Ginni Shitbird tried to overthrow is now compelled to protect her. How fucked up is that? To hell with that traitor and her worthless, idiot husband….

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
10. hold up
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 11:41 PM
Jun 2022

The case isn't about Miranda in a criminal context, it's about Miranda in a civil lawsuit.

As in, you failed to give me my Miranda rights, I was acquitted, now I am suiing you under a federal action.

I don't see ANYTHING in there that whiffs at Miranda being overruled in a criminal context, and it's certainly not the basis of the case.

Crepuscular

(1,057 posts)
12. ...
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 08:45 AM
Jun 2022

You are exactly right, thanks for pointing that out, the case in question is about whether police can be sued in civil court for failing to mirandize a suspect. That does not mean that evidence gathered without being properly mirandized can be used in a criminal prosecution, it would still be excluded if the suspect was not made aware of their rights regarding self incrimination. They just can't sue a cop for failure to do so. The media really needs to do a better job of explaining the impact of these decisions.

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