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NEW: Raskin tells CNN that we WILL learn who the "backchannel" was between the proud boys and the... (Original Post) demmiblue Jun 2022 OP
My money is on Bannon. Bleacher Creature Jun 2022 #1
Wasn't Stone using them as security? AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2022 #2
OafKeepers (OathKeepers). But I thought of Stone first. Maybe Oafkeepers conduited to PeeBoys. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2022 #26
Still is.... SergeStorms Jun 2022 #29
and/or stone. mopinko Jun 2022 #3
Or one of the Millers underpants Jun 2022 #7
ditto onetexan Jun 2022 #30
This is a key question! n/t AntiFascist Jun 2022 #4
Roger Stone's time in the barrel? nt Tommy Carcetti Jun 2022 #5
Tune in, same bat-time, same bat-channel gratuitous Jun 2022 #6
Who is saying none of this really matters? Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2022 #47
Pop by your local media websites or Facebook page gratuitous Jun 2022 #48
Oh, so individual TrumpSuckers. OK, I'll just take your word for it. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2022 #51
Babbling morons is a good description gratuitous Jun 2022 #52
I salute your fortitude! Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2022 #53
His first name rhymes with Roger zuul Jun 2022 #8
Would that be Roger Stone? elias7 Jun 2022 #11
I think the culprit is Stoger Rone. zuul Jun 2022 #13
Codger Moan? elias7 Jun 2022 #50
This is the world's worst-kept secret Effete Snob Jun 2022 #9
I was about to guess Hannity, but in light of this photo, GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #18
Well documented Effete Snob Jun 2022 #21
WTF? . .... Lovie777 Jun 2022 #36
I don't know if you are trying to be sarcastic Effete Snob Jun 2022 #40
The expression on Raskin's face while he was talking tells me he already in2herbs Jun 2022 #10
I say the SLIMY Roger Stone... AmBlue Jun 2022 #12
Whoever it is is going to the graybar. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #14
rhymes with bone? or maybe cannon? both? getagrip_already Jun 2022 #15
If they have that evidence , that would be a game changer. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #16
I'm guessing a weird guy with a Nixon tat on his back Stinky The Clown Jun 2022 #17
I've noticed that Ginni Thomas' name keeps surfacing these days FakeNoose Jun 2022 #19
Give me some of that malaise Jun 2022 #20
This is a key connection to establish... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #22
No spoilers - this is playing like a mini series... lame54 Jun 2022 #23
Woo hoo! I'm with Kenan on this! liberalla Jun 2022 #24
My money is on Roger Stone. Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #25
Yep. summer_in_TX Jun 2022 #35
Yep. Money's probably 9-2 on old Roger. Captain Zero Jun 2022 #43
It's probably Stone - but I'm hoping for John Barron! dchill Jun 2022 #27
What about the back channel between Eastman and... LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #28
Oh, they've got the receipts. Novara Jun 2022 #31
Let's try and keep the pinhead shaming Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #32
Maybe Don Jr. And his Guilfoyle. Meadowoak Jun 2022 #33
Roger Stone gldstwmn Jun 2022 #34
I assume the same "WH backchannel" sent the written Capitol attack plan to the Proud Boys. sop Jun 2022 #37
I'm betting on Stone or Bannon. Martin68 Jun 2022 #38
Roger stone UpInArms Jun 2022 #39
Is that thinly veiled code for Kushner because of... Pacifist Patriot Jun 2022 #41
So yeah, I thought I couldn't get more pissed than last Thursday uponit7771 Jun 2022 #42
And I would like to know what did the "President" know and when did he know it MerryHolidays Jun 2022 #44
It's Lauren Boebert AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #45
Roger Stone was backchannel for White House and Ted Cruz was the backchannel for House and Senate. kentuck Jun 2022 #46
Yeah. What's up with that?? NCLefty Jun 2022 #49

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
29. Still is....
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:07 PM
Jun 2022

as far as I know.

Who invited Tarrio to the White House? Find that out and you almost certainly have your man.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Tune in, same bat-time, same bat-channel
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 12:25 PM
Jun 2022

The committee is doing a great job of keeping the popular media outlets on the hook, wanting more. In spite of the commentary and opinionating that none of this really matters, the media are clearly tuned in.

As long as the committee keeps its promises and delivers the goods, they'll keep that attention. Another bit of proof that the hearings are having an impression is that the former guy is now whining about getting equal time.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
47. Who is saying none of this really matters?
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 11:58 PM
Jun 2022

Not saying it's not happening, just wondering where. FoxNoose, I'd guess. Where else?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
48. Pop by your local media websites or Facebook page
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:02 AM
Jun 2022

The trolls are out in force, denying the plain evidence that everyone can see. One guy posted that it was a fact-free circus. I responded, "But enough about the former guy's defense, what did you think of the testimony of all his 'best people'?" He ghosted for some reason.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
51. Oh, so individual TrumpSuckers. OK, I'll just take your word for it.
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:39 AM
Jun 2022

Little depresses me more than reading or hearing those cultists express their belligerent ignorance. At best, they're babbling morons, at worst, they are terrifyingly hateful, blood thirsty thugs.

As actual facts are truly an existential threat to them, I'm not surprised you were able to spook one with reference to the truth. I wonder if they were smart enough to get your meaning about tfg's defense being the fact-free circus. They are often so clueless, I wonder how they manage to get through daily life.





gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
52. Babbling morons is a good description
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:44 AM
Jun 2022

I don't make it my life's work, but I have found a well-placed response now and then can totally derail the trollery, and let the other readers know that they're being taken for a ride.

elias7

(4,007 posts)
11. Would that be Roger Stone?
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 12:36 PM
Jun 2022

What happens when homonyms are not only homophones and homographs, but also share the same meaning?

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
18. I was about to guess Hannity, but in light of this photo,
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 12:49 PM
Jun 2022

I think I'm going with Roger Stone, as well.

Lovie777

(12,276 posts)
36. WTF? . ....
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:58 PM
Jun 2022

what kinda sign is that ...

Stone loves orgies, that sign is saying (my opinion) - come play with me.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
40. I don't know if you are trying to be sarcastic
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 04:49 PM
Jun 2022

But this is a well-known sign for "White Power" in that the fingers form a "W" and a "P".

Yes, it is a sign that may have other meanings in other context, such as "okay" or a three-point shot in basketball. However, none of the persons pictured are playing or watching basketball, so let's skip the bullshit there.

You may find this article informative:

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white-power-symbol-or-just-right-wing-troll


From its adoption first by white nationalists, and then by 4chan trolls intent on ‘triggering the libs,’ the well-known hand signal’s use points to deeper concerns.

The smirk that almost inevitably accompanies the “OK” sign, that simplest of hand signals, is the dead giveaway in the shroud of internet-age befuddlement: Does the sign, the thumb and forefinger joined together in a circle, the remaining three fingers splayed out behind, mean “all’s good?” Or does it mean “white power” instead?

,,,

So what does it mean when someone flashes the OK sign? In the end, it can mean almost anything, but primarily it’s one of three things:

It can be a harmless use of its traditional meaning that all’s well.
It can be an ironic attempt to troll liberals with a symbol chosen to “trigger” their inner “SJWs.”
It can be a surreptitious way of signaling your presence to other white supremacists.




So now you have been informed, and in the future you will be able to tell, from context, what this is intended to communicate.

I hope this has been helpful to you.

We have had a number of people attempt to troll DU in the past by taking photographs out of context and declaring it to be a White Power sign when it was clearly not, and a number of less-than-good-faith debates about them.

I sincerely hope that this is not one of those occasions.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
10. The expression on Raskin's face while he was talking tells me he already
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 12:32 PM
Jun 2022

knows. Somehow that brings me peace. I'm glad Raskin is in charge of this portion of the hearings.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
15. rhymes with bone? or maybe cannon? both?
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 12:41 PM
Jun 2022

They hate each other, but that doesn't mean they weren't both involved on individual tracks.

Of course, the doj could play them against each other; he is talking up a storm, and about you! Well, they could, but......

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
16. If they have that evidence , that would be a game changer.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 12:43 PM
Jun 2022

It would tie the Whitehouse to seditious conspiracy. BOOM!

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
19. I've noticed that Ginni Thomas' name keeps surfacing these days
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 12:50 PM
Jun 2022

I'm not sure if she had anything to do with the Proud Boys, but I predict she'll get a mention in today's hearings.

I'm glad Jamie Raskin is getting some facetime, I hope he's a presenter today.


Ohio Joe

(21,756 posts)
22. This is a key connection to establish...
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 01:09 PM
Jun 2022

If this is done so that it holds in court... It's over for TFG.

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
25. My money is on Roger Stone.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 01:37 PM
Jun 2022

He has been the perpetrator of many Republican dirty tricks over the years. I’ve always believed that he orchestrated the anonymous complaints about sexual assault against Al Feanken to get ghat voice of reason out of the Senate.

Captain Zero

(6,806 posts)
43. Yep. Money's probably 9-2 on old Roger.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 06:12 PM
Jun 2022

And if you bet on Roger and two others at the Willard Hotel the night before, you have a decent trifecta bet.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
28. What about the back channel between Eastman and...
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 01:54 PM
Jun 2022

the Supreme Court? (as if we didn’t know that it was Clarence “Slappy” Thomas and his traitorous Ginni)

Novara

(5,843 posts)
31. Oh, they've got the receipts.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:27 PM
Jun 2022

I keep hearing TV pundits asking members of the committee if the hearings will wrap up on the 23rd as originally planned and they all keep saying they're not at liberty to say so. I've read the committee may have more hearings in September.

They're still gathering evidence!

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
39. Roger stone
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 04:20 PM
Jun 2022


Jan 30, 2019

year ago, longtime Trump advisor Roger Stone pledged to the Proud Boys. He said matter-of-factly that he is a “Western chauvinist,” the term Proud Boys use to describe their core beliefs. As a member, having hired other members to act as his security team in wake of his indictment by Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller should come as no great surprise some have said.

Stone was indicted for lying about his affairs with WikiLeaks and the Trump campaign as part of the investigation into a Russia-backed attack on the 2016 presidential election and then-candidate Trump’s possible collusion with Russian actors.

Since his public appearances show Proud Boys by his side and recently designated Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio, a first-generation Cuban-American from Miami, standing with Stone and speaking out on his behalf, they appear as allies.


Much more at link

https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/roger-stone-proud-boys/

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
41. Is that thinly veiled code for Kushner because of...
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 06:00 PM
Jun 2022

The phrasing of the attempt to establish a back channel to the Russians during the Obama to Trump transition period?

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
44. And I would like to know what did the "President" know and when did he know it
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 08:31 PM
Jun 2022

To paraphrase the great Senator Howard Baker in 1973.

Stone or Bannon would be good, but prior knowledge by Trump would be the Holy Grail. Oh, that, an Russian funding.

Stay tuned.

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
45. It's Lauren Boebert
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 09:43 PM
Jun 2022

I know many here are pointing at Roger Stone but I feel that would've came out ages ago considering how much he's been investigated and even convicted.

I think it's Lauren Boebert who has direct ties to far right militia groups - The Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and the III%ers.
Here she is in front of the Colorado state capitol posing with said members. She has direct access as a member of Congress to the upper echelons of her party and given her comments about 1776, I think this is a slam dunk.

kentuck

(111,101 posts)
46. Roger Stone was backchannel for White House and Ted Cruz was the backchannel for House and Senate.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 10:45 PM
Jun 2022

would be my guess.

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