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J6 hearing: People are by nature intolerant. (Original Post) madaboutharry Jun 2022 OP
Sad, isn't it? elleng Jun 2022 #1
Glad I live in the West. Most of us talk slow. Magoo48 Jun 2022 #17
I think Colorado is the West, the last I checked. I find that a rather inflated generalization. hlthe2b Jun 2022 #24
SMH inthewind21 Jun 2022 #25
SMH, YMMV, ICYMI, IFYKYK, IJS, and Bless your heart! hlthe2b Jun 2022 #27
I speak Spanish as well but only with people who speak it slowly. Magoo48 Jun 2022 #28
LOL hlthe2b Jun 2022 #29
I know, I hate that part. Magoo48 Jun 2022 #30
Ding Ding Ding! Thank you. Ninga Jun 2022 #2
Commenting on it does not equate to being intolerant. I am unaccustomed to slow speaking so I am hlthe2b Jun 2022 #8
Some posters Ninga Jun 2022 #14
Agree Pantagruel Jun 2022 #3
We've lost the ability to read a newspaper, to listen to the content of a speaker, and sinkingfeeling Jun 2022 #4
du at it's finest. mopinko Jun 2022 #5
Commenting on it does not equate to being intolerant. I am unaccustomed to slow speaking so I am hlthe2b Jun 2022 #9
how many threads are there right now about this? mopinko Jun 2022 #11
I don't think any of us get to be the arbitors of how many can create a thread to discuss an issue. hlthe2b Jun 2022 #13
irony inthewind21 Jun 2022 #20
Not at all. I am not calling out other DUers as intolerant for a different viewpoint--noticing a hlthe2b Jun 2022 #23
Yeah ok inthewind21 Jun 2022 #26
Commenting on it does not equate to being intolerant. I am unaccustomed to slow speaking so I am hlthe2b Jun 2022 #6
My new job EndlessWire Jun 2022 #7
Yup. Maybe it's on account of instant information from social media, Ocelot II Jun 2022 #10
I find the judge considered, knowledgeable, impressive, and thorough NewHendoLib Jun 2022 #12
If it was just him, fine, meadowlander Jun 2022 #15
As opposed to inthewind21 Jun 2022 #22
Frustration is not Intolerance. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #16
It is ridiculous Nictuku Jun 2022 #18
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2022 #19
I thought he was just being pensive and very deliberate about what he was going to say. chowder66 Jun 2022 #21
Yes, I agree. iemanja Jun 2022 #33
Good God, why is everybody so eager to set the bar so low for this man? deucemagnet Jun 2022 #31
The threads about Judge Luttig are embarassing iemanja Jun 2022 #32
Just pathetic. Content over presentation any time. we can do it Jun 2022 #34
I still don't get his point where he was saying there was a historic precedent, regardless of Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #35

Magoo48

(4,716 posts)
17. Glad I live in the West. Most of us talk slow.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jun 2022

Now, at 74, I talk a lot slower than my brain sends words to my mouth. Sometimes my mouth balks altogether and, for no apparent reason, I have to use a more mundane “default word”.

hlthe2b

(102,290 posts)
24. I think Colorado is the West, the last I checked. I find that a rather inflated generalization.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 03:02 PM
Jun 2022

Not to mention all those Spanish-speakers.

hlthe2b

(102,290 posts)
8. Commenting on it does not equate to being intolerant. I am unaccustomed to slow speaking so I am
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:29 PM
Jun 2022

intently listening. Admittedly with some difficulty, but my respect for what this legal scholar has to say (whether a conservative or not) motivates me to make the effort.

I do not know how that equates to intolerance.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
14. Some posters
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:44 PM
Jun 2022

remarked about his delivery and not the substance of his remarks. That is the distinction in my mind that may indicate intolerance.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
4. We've lost the ability to read a newspaper, to listen to the content of a speaker, and
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:25 PM
Jun 2022

demand an immediate, 60 second or 240 character recap of everything.

hlthe2b

(102,290 posts)
9. Commenting on it does not equate to being intolerant. I am unaccustomed to slow speaking so I am
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:30 PM
Jun 2022

intently listening. Admittedly with some difficulty, but my respect for what this legal scholar has to say (whether a conservative or not) motivates me to make the effort.

I do not know how that equates to intolerance. Except, perhaps towards other DUers not deserving of such derision.

hlthe2b

(102,290 posts)
13. I don't think any of us get to be the arbitors of how many can create a thread to discuss an issue.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:38 PM
Jun 2022

Ignore feature is your friend using keywords. But assuming they are all being intolerant is quite the broad stroke.

hlthe2b

(102,290 posts)
23. Not at all. I am not calling out other DUers as intolerant for a different viewpoint--noticing a
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:57 PM
Jun 2022

a phenomenon with which they were unaccustomed And there is some irony for you to consider if you can't see that.

hlthe2b

(102,290 posts)
6. Commenting on it does not equate to being intolerant. I am unaccustomed to slow speaking so I am
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:27 PM
Jun 2022

intently listening. Admittedly with some difficulty, but my respect for what this legal scholar has to say (whether a conservative or not) motivates me to make the effort.

I do not know how that equates to intolerance.

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
7. My new job
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:28 PM
Jun 2022

After studying the faces of those sitting behind speakers at the UN, and those that are sitting behind the witnesses today, I conclude that I could hire myself out as one of those backing people. I clean up well, and can look interested. I could make a bundle. Hire me!

The blonde sitting behind Mr. Jacob is plainly fighting to stay awake. She is really struggling. Let's hope that the ten minute break comes up sooner than later.

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
10. Yup. Maybe it's on account of instant information from social media,
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:36 PM
Jun 2022

all presented in short sound bites, but too many of us have the attention span of gerbils. If you're old and had to read newspapers and do research in libraries using physical books and write without word processing, you might have more patience.

NewHendoLib

(60,015 posts)
12. I find the judge considered, knowledgeable, impressive, and thorough
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:38 PM
Jun 2022

and I am a fast talker.

Slow, measured speaking is often indicative of the wish for the audience to pay attention - to put gravity on what it is said.

People, in general, are brutally hard on each other.

meadowlander

(4,397 posts)
15. If it was just him, fine,
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:44 PM
Jun 2022

but there's a long tradition of Republicans sabotaging hearings by making them unwatchable with their shenanigans and I don't think it's "intolerant" to point out that he has been asked to speak on a national stage, to provide information to the American people, and that his appallingly poor public speaking skills are getting in the way of that.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
22. As opposed to
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:53 PM
Jun 2022

the stellar public speaking skills of say Jim Jordan? Being WILLING to TESTIFY in a congressional hearing, against your own clerk, on national television is quite another.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
16. Frustration is not Intolerance.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:45 PM
Jun 2022

It has nothing to do with Entertainment.

Obama often spoke slowly, and I often became frustrated by it. I feel the same way when Biden is slow and deliberate. I know why they do it.

When a witness speaks slowly, it can feel like they are stalling or wasting time to limit the number of questions they are asked. Everyone listening is well aware that the future of Democracy on the line.

Perhaps you need to tolerate the frustration.

Nictuku

(3,614 posts)
18. It is ridiculous
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jun 2022

Clearly this man thinks of the words he is about to say. He is very careful of what he says. That should actually mean something.

And good grief, how about a little respect for our elders. This man is a RETIRED Judge. Give him a break. Seriously.

H2O Man

(73,558 posts)
19. Recommended.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jun 2022

I've just got back on DU during the break, so I haven't seen that here yet. But an old friend did make a snarky e-mail about it. In my opinion, it is shallowness.

deucemagnet

(4,549 posts)
31. Good God, why is everybody so eager to set the bar so low for this man?
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 03:20 PM
Jun 2022

It's not about being entertained, it's about making yourself understood. Perhaps his testimony could be considered brilliant if he were composing at a keyboard, but he wasn't. He was giving oral testimony, and delivering it in a manner that made him very difficult to listen to.

If you interview for a job the way that Lettig gave testimony, you continue your job search. If you defend your thesis the way that Lettig gave testimony, you've wasted years of your life in grad school. Is expecting a federal judge to communicate clearly and effectively too much to ask?

Scrivener7

(50,955 posts)
35. I still don't get his point where he was saying there was a historic precedent, regardless of
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 04:43 PM
Jun 2022

the speed at which he said it, because there is NO historic precedent.

That statement was unnecessarily convoluted. If you got his point, please explain it to me.

That being said, his ending was awesome.

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