General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums****1/6 Committee Hearings Day 3, thread THREE****
(Here's the link to thread TWO if you need to refer back: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16808293)
IcyPeas
(21,885 posts)Deputy press secretary said they thought Trump needed to tweet something immediately. And he did... but it was about Mike Pence. #HATH
Link to tweet
Scrivener7
(50,955 posts)was already bad but we felt that he was pouring gasoline on the fire."
crickets
(25,981 posts)finally banned tfg. The man is a menace and should never have a major social media account again.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)Fuck Musk.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)livetohike
(22,145 posts)to another location.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Imagine after that not feeling safe getting into a car with them.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)IcyPeas
(21,885 posts)TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)I can't imagine what was going through the minds of Pence, his family, and his staff. The situation transcends politics, in my opinion.
IcyPeas
(21,885 posts)TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)I think even his family mostly just tolerates him because he's making them rich.
livetohike
(22,145 posts)Mike Pence if given a chance.
Scrivener7
(50,955 posts)if they were given the chance including Pence and Pelosi.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,082 posts)livetohike
(22,145 posts)did not want to take any chance that the world would see the VP leaving the Capitol.
Scrivener7
(50,955 posts)livetohike
(22,145 posts)on that comment.
nolabear
(41,984 posts)In a way it would be his duty to leave Id think.
crickets
(25,981 posts)it would leave with him in it to go who know where. He knew he could not leave and have any confidence that he'd be able to return.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)by the pussy!!
🤣
Lars39
(26,109 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Trump didnt give a shit about Pence, and why Pence hasnt been more outspoken I dont understand. Decorum be damned. That fucker could have destroyed government, and killed Pence in the process. Fuck him.
viva la
(3,302 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)According to Jacob.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Got to respect that.
Mersky
(4,982 posts)But most of his staff did get in the cars. I just found that an interesting detail. Had to be an intense moment.
BumRushDaShow
(129,082 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)livetohike
(22,145 posts)him to do to suspend the electoral certification.
mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)even after the attack those fuckers still tried to overthrow the government.
BumRushDaShow
(129,082 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)11:44 PM on January 6! What a piece of shit this Eastman is.
Pence: That's rubber room stuff.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)Trump knew and was 100% involved in the planning. Everyone had a role to play, and trump played his to a tee. Pence, on the other hand,
people were so open about their plans because they never thought they would fail.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... had not shared with the fake Trump certificates with state electors and told them they wouldn't be accepted !!
mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Mike Pence Savior of American Democracy. (After checking with Dan Quayle.)
I had to listen to much of this in the car on NPR. Totally frustrating experience.
chowder66
(9,073 posts)that it was unconstitutional and yet all of this due diligence was done and Pence still had to confer with Dan Quayle.
snip....
"Costa and Woodward report that Pence rang up Quayle in late December to ask if there was any way he could give Trump want he wanted, according to the Washington Post:
Quayle was adamant, according to the authors. Mike, you have no flexibility on this. None. Zero. Forget it. Put it away, he said.
But Pence pressed him, the authors write, asking if there were any grounds to pause the certification because of ongoing legal challenges. Quayle was unmoved, and Pence ultimately agreed, according to the book.
CNNs version added some additional detail to Pences entreaty:
"You don't know the position I'm in," he said, according to the authors.
"I do know the position you're in," Quayle responded. "I also know what the law is. You listen to the parliamentarian. That's all you do. You have no power."
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/dan-quayle-talked-mike-pence-rejecting-trump-what-story-n1279406
ReluctanceTango
(219 posts)Of someone who had been there--namely as a VP, overseeing the opening of the votes for a one-term POTUS. Very few people have been in that position. Quayle had been. Plus, he was also from Indiana.
Call it an extra shot of courage.
Scrivener7
(50,955 posts)minor violation" of federal law and send the votes back to the states.
This was AFTER the coup attempt.
livetohike
(22,145 posts)certification.
BumRushDaShow
(129,082 posts)(and I was up just before 4 am when that happened)
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Lars39
(26,109 posts)IcyPeas
(21,885 posts)livetohike
(22,145 posts)Scrivener7
(50,955 posts)livetohike
(22,145 posts)Scrivener7
(50,955 posts)livetohike
(22,145 posts)mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)Didn't he know that he failed at his job and then became useless to trump. A LOSER, if you will.
This is pure speculation on my part...
Then he went to Jared, I guess he was too poor to buy one from Jared.
The fact that he isn't negotiating a deal makes him a sucker. IMO.
livetohike
(22,145 posts)Say a lot. Plus none of them got one. Typical Trump though. Use everyone and give them nothing on return.
mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)Is inappropriate, imo.
Scrivener7
(50,955 posts)It's the small slice of repubiQans who can be swayed. And they'll eat it up.
Mersky
(4,982 posts)The sweat on Jacobs forehead balances it out. I appreciate his testifying.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Eastman wanting a pardon. Denied pardon
BumRushDaShow
(129,082 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,082 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)txwhitedove
(3,929 posts)livetohike
(22,145 posts)Sympthsical
(9,074 posts)Reminds me of some of the Irish ball busters I grew up around in Chicago. No bullshit, not entertaining bullshit, GTFO.
BumRushDaShow
(129,082 posts)Lars39
(26,109 posts)livetohike
(22,145 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,082 posts)dweller
(23,641 posts)That were read to him, and he said something like exactly what I said
✌🏻
BumRushDaShow
(129,082 posts)Lars39
(26,109 posts)Scrivener7
(50,955 posts)presidency in 24 if they are not stopped.
That will go far with republiQans.
livetohike
(22,145 posts)are a clear and present danger to democracy.
Well said
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)Present danger to the USA." Luttig, retired u.s. judge.
Amen.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)Thank you, Judge Luttig, for finally saying it out loud.
Scrivener7
(50,955 posts)Essentially: they are openly planning to do this again in 24.
demmiblue
(36,864 posts)Luttig is shook (and so am I)
Lars39
(26,109 posts)livetohike
(22,145 posts)about testifying to reach out to them.
BumRushDaShow
(129,082 posts)Lars39
(26,109 posts)Scrivener7
(50,955 posts)It is great to be virtually on the sofa with you as we watch history taking place.
livetohike
(22,145 posts)all of you.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Heres a palate cleanser
.
crickets
(25,981 posts)IcyPeas
(21,885 posts)IcyPeas
(21,885 posts)Thompson asks those who might be on the fence about cooperating, please reach out. (Raskin said this morning that lots of folks are suddenly discovering they want to tell their stories.) #HATH
https://january6th.house.gov.
Link to tweet
Mersky
(4,982 posts)I think I held my breath as I took a video of those comments. Was watching a couple mins behind the thread here on DU, so was ready with my phone.
Thank you for everyone contributing to these threads! Makes it easier to follow and remember!