I don't give a shit about which bible verses they read during the insurrection (nt)

[Orrex]

[we can do it]

1. 🤮

[elleng]

2. DITTO!!!

[Gore1FL]

3. I don't understand the questions or the point. nt

[FalloutShelter]

4. I think we are not the audience they are attempting to reach

By introducing this.

[JohnSJ]

10. Exactly

[Delphinus]

17. I think

you are correct - and said it much better than I.

[mcar]

22. This exactly

The committee knows their audience.

[Orrex]

30. You are no doubt correct

But, hearing it live, I have trouble accepting that even the most enthusiastic kool-aid swiller could fail to recognize it as a sales pitch specifically intended to manipulate them.

[LakeArenal]

5. Neither do they...

[Ocelot II]

6. That discussion was for a particular audience - not us.

[lees1975]

7. None were accurately quoted or interpreted in context

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2022/06/no-theology-or-doctrine-justifies.html

[ReluctanceTango]

11. Come on

For every verse you can quote that says what you like, you can find verses that say the exact opposite in the same book.

You and other liberal xians cherry-picking the verses you like and ignoring the ones you don't is no different than what the fundigelicals do.

We who have actually read the book--all of it--know how all xians cherry-pick it to death.

[keithbvadu2]

16. To most 'Christians', mainstream and evangelical, the Bible is a buffet of tales and can be cherry-p

To most 'Christians', mainstream and evangelical, the Bible is a buffet of tales and can be cherry-picked at will.

Believe the parts you like and ignore the rest.

One major example of that is divorce.

Jesus was very specific and vocal about divorce, remarriage, and adultery.

There are very few churches that practice what Jesus spake.

The sanctity of Holy matrimony for conservative Christians - Kim Davis

[Lars39]

8. Aguilar tied it together, though.

Might give the evangelical crowd a hook to pay attention

[ChazII]

9. I am in the state of confusion. n/t

[UTUSN]

12. Well I'm thanksgiving for AGUILAR, so there's that.

[MOMFUDSKI]

13. BUT

this will play right into the hands of the christo-morons on the right. It is all good.

[Celerity]

15. absolutely agree

[choie]

18. AMEN!

What the hell was that all about? This is a goddamn government hearing, we don't need to know what religious zealots these freaks are.

[BumRushDaShow]

19. This is a heads-up

reminder that validates those here on DU who have always called Pence a "Christo-fascist," and this underscores it.

[Nevilledog]

20. I agree with Rothkopf

Link to tweet

Tweet text:

David Rothkopf
@djrothkopf
·
Jun 16, 2022
I know many people will be moved by the references to prayer and God and the Bible in today's hearings. I am not among them. It is dangerous to encourage such invocations of religiosity as a kind of validation of virtuous intent. I don't begrudge people their beliefs.

My concern is that increasingly government proceedings and statements of government officials seem to place greater focus on introduction of religious views into places they do not belong (especially when they favor a focus on just a few particular subsets of religious beliefs.)
12:47 PM · Jun 16, 2022

[Orrex]

29. A very solid tweet

Whenever I hear someone in politics praised as "a person of strong faith," I cringe because I recognize it as the unofficial "religious test" that it is.

They might as well be praised for their knowledge of Pez Dispensers.

[greenjar_01]

21. You're not the audience

That wasn't for you.

[Orrex]

23. Of course not

But it seems like such a transparent ploy to create "legitimacy" among bible thumpers that I can't imagine that even those credulous souls won't see right through it.

[greenjar_01]

24. When somebody says that an argument has different audiences

That doesn't mean that the argument is disingenuous or false. There's nothing to "see through."

[Orrex]

26. I have little doubt that you imagine that to be true.

The person who doesn't see through--or at least recognize--such disingenuous pandering is most likely the targeted patsy

"Who is your favorite political philospher?" asked the softball moderator.

"Jesus Christ, because he changed my life," said George W Bush in an obvious red-meat statement to his target audience of evangelical rubes, who incidentally swooned as one at the unbridled righteousness of their man.


It's a sales pitch, a manipulative tactic designed to fool those who are so eager and desperate to be fooled.

[greenjar_01]

32. Yeesh

[iemanja]

25. Republicans do

The discussion of bible versus gives gravitas to those who care about such things. This hearing is carefully orchestrated to convince Republicans. You already know this involves a cabal of traitorous criminals.

[Orrex]

27. I agree, it's a sales pitch

And I hope that it opens the eyes of its targeted sheep, because it sounds plainly insincere a listener outside of the flock.

[iemanja]

28. I don't think it was insincere

I think the judge meant it. Again, we're talking about a whole other mindset from ours.

[Orrex]

31. Well, call it religious masturbation, then.

Sincere at its root, perhaps, but performed in this context specifically to sway an audience.

It's funny that such people are often so quick to cry "Pandering!" when a film includes a sympathetic non-white non-cis character, but they can't see pandering when it's bibling right in their faces.