Let's be real: Pence is no hero.

[bluesbassman]

He's neither noble nor brave. He's not very bright, and basically he's pretty evil in his own right. What he did on January 6th was all he could do, and he did it to save his own skin. He probably knew in his gut that what Trump wanted him to do was unconstitutional, but still went out and sought advice from those more experienced and smarter than him. He was told that what he was being asked to do was unconstitutional and if he proceeded with Trump's plan he, Mike Pence, would be in serious legal jeopardy when it all blew up in their faces.

So he did what he did because it was the only option available to him. Those trying to make any more out of his act are either naïve, or they're trying to justify why they were associated with him in the first place. He's hoping his image will be rehabilitated. I'm hoping it's not. He should be tarred with the brush of his four year sycophancy to Donald Trump. Period.

[walkingman]

1. He kissed Trump's ring for 4 years and is a disgusting useless politician. He knew exactly

what Trump was planning. The reason he is still bowing to Trump is obvious - he doesn't want to offend MAGA voters. Just another typical Republican.

[Ellipsis]

2. you betcha

[elleng]

3. as Lawrence just stated.

[ms liberty]

5. Yes, Lawrence just nailed Pence. Loved it.

For those not watching, Lawrence said that Pence was no hero because if he'd stood up a week before and unequivocally stated he had no authority and wouldn't do it, many of those morans wouldn't have shown up in DC on 1/6. Yea, he came thru in the end but it didn't have to go that far.

Personally it fits my hypothesis, which is that Pence was waiting and praying (of course) for something (anything) to happen that would keep him from being forced to make a stand.

[Arkansas Granny]

4. The only reason he did what he did was because he couldn't find a way

to do what Trump demanded. He tried very hard to do what Trump wanted. Look how many people he talked to before he finally saw that he had no other choice.

[consider_this]

6. he checked his job description carefully...

and acted accordingly.
That said, how the heck does one work in the shadow of TFG - in what I would call an intense harassment situation- and not have to consult whoever and whomever to know what to do?
I will credit him with being upstanding and doing what he needed to do to know what the correct thing was, under extreme harassment pressure. Kudos to him for that!
How he abided that TFG A-hole for so long, only makes me contemplate his foundations further. Certainly, he does not align with my (and likely the bulk of us here) political leanings, so he is off my radar as anyone I would vote for, regardless of this painting of him as some amazing hero of democracy.
The picture for all to see, is that TFG is the extreme enemy of democracy, demonstrated via multiple and persistent attempts to undo it: and here you have someone (VP Pence) just 'doing his job' now seems like a freaking hero. He really actually does, because of the circumstances. This is how damn far the TFG has taken this to make us perceive it at this level. Unbelievable, but here we are.

[BettyonRed]

7. I disagree. He stood up to someone

In a more powerful position. He didn’t back down to a bully. Over multiple days he chose the morally correct path and that is admirable. I don’t believe his actions should be denigrated.

[EndlessWire]

10. I do agree that he was under extreme pressure

from Trump. It is laughable when you watch that speech that Trump gave where he said that if Pence didn't do it, Trump wouldn't like Pence very much after that. Trump is a vile, vicious man, and who knows what he would have said behind closed doors.

I also see nothing wrong with his checking other sources to see if Trump was right or wrong about whether he could do that. We can't all be legal scholars. Imagine what would have happened if even one of those sources had advised him that yes indeedy, he could refuse to accept the votes.

I mean, Dan Quayle?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

8. Mary Trump just said it ALL...

Link to tweet

[NCLefty]

9. Yeah, there's like 5 threads of this all on the front page.

I think we're in agreement. 😁