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Mike Pence and his daughter on J6 (Original Post) Swede Jun 2022 OP
She looks scared and mad. Emile Jun 2022 #1
And Pence does not give one little shit about her... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #2
That is a stretch of a statement. madaboutharry Jun 2022 #4
Well... I think Pence knew full well there could be violence on 1/6 Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #10
I would have to agree with you. Bluethroughu Jun 2022 #13
Maybe he brought his family to help protect them? imaginary girl Jun 2022 #24
Interesting point. Nicolle Wallace and all were discussing this, but not with your take. oregonjen Jun 2022 #26
Looks to me she has shown her Dad her phone with Trump's message on it Bev54 Jun 2022 #32
You don't know that vlyons Jun 2022 #5
Stop jonstl08 Jun 2022 #9
I'm not saying anything about his family... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #12
How do you know they weren't fully aware of the situation and chose to be with him? milestogo Jun 2022 #17
+1 AngryOldDem Jun 2022 #25
Where is that coming from? milestogo Jun 2022 #15
I do not... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #18
Wasn't Jamie Raskin's daughter there too, that day? AngryOldDem Jun 2022 #21
I have no idea about Raskin's daughter... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #22
+1. And thank you for saying that stopdiggin Jun 2022 #23
An NPR story AngryOldDem Jun 2022 #28
If any of you watched Ozark, she's throwing off some real Ruth Langmore vibes. dawg Jun 2022 #3
"Are we going to fucking do this or not?" Floyd R. Turbo Jun 2022 #14
+1 dawg Jun 2022 #16
She looks like she is saying "Dad, are you kidding me? He said what?!" Srkdqltr Jun 2022 #6
If the apricothellbeast is their partys' candidate in 2024, they will vote for the man who tried irisblue Jun 2022 #7
The look of love (picture without twitter link because twitter sucks and Musk) oioioi Jun 2022 #8
Wait, Daddy? Pantagruel Jun 2022 #11
That is the "what the fuck" look! BlueJac Jun 2022 #19
I think the women in that family were more aware Lars39 Jun 2022 #20
Kick dalton99a Jun 2022 #27
"Very comfortable here, yes Sir - and my daughter asked me to thank you especially" oioioi Jun 2022 #30
Looks like Pence is watching TDFG's video Better Days Ahoy Jun 2022 #29
The President wanted his supporters to kill the Vice President IronLionZion Jun 2022 #31
In this one she looks angry/concerned. In the one below from earlier she shows raw fear. 👇 herding cats Jun 2022 #33

madaboutharry

(40,224 posts)
4. That is a stretch of a statement.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:13 AM
Jun 2022

I don't have a charitable thought about Mike Pence, but to say that he "does not give one little shit about her" is flat out hyperbole and most certainly not true.

Ohio Joe

(21,763 posts)
10. Well... I think Pence knew full well there could be violence on 1/6
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:29 AM
Jun 2022

He certainly knew TFG wanted him to overturn the election... He certainly knew about the rally nearby... He certainly knew Grassley was ready to jump in if he could not do his job... I think if he had a shred of decency, he would not have brought his family there that day.

Bluethroughu

(5,201 posts)
13. I would have to agree with you.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:37 AM
Jun 2022

He put party, over his country and family.

Anyone who had any decency or care would have went to the press and said the Loser lost...end the bullshit two days after the election.


Pence didn't do that, but didn't even state publicly that they were all trying to steal the election and planning a coup either.

Then didn't bother to talk until now, he's a coward like the rest of the Congress Republicans that went along with the lie and aided the coup.

They put us all at risk.

imaginary girl

(864 posts)
24. Maybe he brought his family to help protect them?
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:28 AM
Jun 2022

If they had been threatened, or he feared they'd be used for retribution against him, he might have felt they were safer with him? I've wondered about this. Remember that he didn't trust some members of the secret service (ie driver).

oregonjen

(3,341 posts)
26. Interesting point. Nicolle Wallace and all were discussing this, but not with your take.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jun 2022

Wonder if we will ever know?

Bev54

(10,074 posts)
32. Looks to me she has shown her Dad her phone with Trump's message on it
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:40 PM
Jun 2022

That would be enough to make her angry and scared. He was busy on the phone doing Trump's job for him. I dislike Pence a lot and think he is a milquetoast jackass but in this case, I think we can cut him some slack.

jonstl08

(412 posts)
9. Stop
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:28 AM
Jun 2022

You have no basis for saying that. I know people who are complete jackasses to others but treat their family like gold.

Ohio Joe

(21,763 posts)
12. I'm not saying anything about his family...
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:32 AM
Jun 2022

It was Pence that knowingly brought his family into what he knew could be a violent situation. I think he is a POS for doing so and agree with his daughter's anger.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
25. +1
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:34 AM
Jun 2022

It got extremely violent extremely quickly after the rally, which I doubt they knew the full details of when it was happening.

I don’t know what the OP has on Pence to believe Pence doesn’t “give a shit” about his family. Just being a part of Trumpworld isn’t enough evidence for me.

Ohio Joe

(21,763 posts)
18. I do not...
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:52 AM
Jun 2022

It is based on what I know of Pence and what he knew that day. It is simply my opinion.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
21. Wasn't Jamie Raskin's daughter there too, that day?
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:16 AM
Jun 2022

I seem to recall him later saying that she told him she can never set foot in the Capitol again.

So would you say the same about Raskin?

Sometimes the partisanship needs to step back a little.

Ohio Joe

(21,763 posts)
22. I have no idea about Raskin's daughter...
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:19 AM
Jun 2022

Do you thin Raskin knew what Pence did that day... Do you think Raskin had knowledge that there could be violence? I do not think he did but I do think Pence was very aware there could be violence. I see a big difference there.

stopdiggin

(11,377 posts)
23. +1. And thank you for saying that
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:25 AM
Jun 2022

I know we sometimes just want to rant, but ...
Groundless assertions ...

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
28. An NPR story
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:41 AM
Jun 2022
https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/2021/02/09/965932072/they-thought-they-were-going-to-die-raskin-recounts-familys-experience-on-jan-6

The reason they came with me that Wednesday, Jan. 6, was because they wanted to be together with me in the middle of a devastating week for our family," he said.

They asked him, he recounted, whether it would be safe to attend, given that then-President Donald Trump was calling on his supporters to protest in Washington.
"I told them — of course it should be safe. This is the capital."

After delivering a speech on the floor that day, Raskin's daughter and son-in-law returned to House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer's office.

"By the time we learned about [the breach], it was too late. I couldn't get out there to be with him in that office, and all around me people were calling their wives and their husbands, their loved ones, to say goodbye," Raskin described.


Very reasonable assumptions. The Pences probably felt the same.

irisblue

(33,034 posts)
7. If the apricothellbeast is their partys' candidate in 2024, they will vote for the man who tried
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:17 AM
Jun 2022

To have Mike Pence killed.

oioioi

(1,127 posts)
8. The look of love (picture without twitter link because twitter sucks and Musk)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:20 AM
Jun 2022


"Yes Sir, thank you, she's right here actually. She asked me to send you her love and that she's looking forward to seeing Ivanka at tennis next week."
 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
11. Wait, Daddy?
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:31 AM
Jun 2022

You telling me the thugs outside attacking the Capitol, those are our base? They voted Republican?

Better Days Ahoy

(698 posts)
29. Looks like Pence is watching TDFG's video
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:56 AM
Jun 2022

Calling the rioters special people who he loves. Not one mention or call to Pence and his daughter about their safety. I hope she remembers this moment for the rest of her life. Turning point for her if she wasn't already there.

IronLionZion

(45,541 posts)
31. The President wanted his supporters to kill the Vice President
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 12:34 PM
Jun 2022

so yeah, if someone wants to kill your Dad, it's scary and infuriating.

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
33. In this one she looks angry/concerned. In the one below from earlier she shows raw fear. 👇
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 01:15 PM
Jun 2022


Charolette isn't all bad, she says she's more moderate than her parents. I imagine that was quite a wake up for her that day.
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