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Joinfortmill

(14,467 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 02:44 PM Jun 2022

I was curious about the current status of QANON and stumbled upon this..

https://www.justsecurity.org/72339/qanon-is-a-nazi-cult-rebranded/

It was published in 2020, but it's a bit of an eye-opener to the roots of QANON.

QANON IS A NAZI CULT REBRANDED

'A secret cabal is taking over the world. They kidnap children, slaughter, and eat them to gain power from their blood. They control high positions in government, banks, international finance, the news media, and the church. They want to disarm the police. They promote homosexuality and pedophilia. They plan to mongrelize the white race so it will lose its essential power.

Does this conspiracy theory sound familiar? It is. The same narrative has been repackaged by QAnon...The plot, described above, was the conspiracy “revealed” in the most influential anti-Jewish pamphlet of all time. It was called The Protocols of the Elders of Zion...

The QAnon conspiracy theory has now spread to neo-Nazis in Germany, where over 200,000 German QAnon accounts infest the internet. A faction known as “Reichsbürger,” or citizens of the Reich, orchestrated a brief storming of Parliament on Aug. 29.

Many people are perplexed at how any rational person could fall for such an irrational conspiracy theory. But modern social science shows that people in groups don’t always think rationally. They respond to fear and terror. They blame their misfortunes on scapegoats. They support narcissistic demagogues they hope will rescue them.

In July, the Texas Republican party unveiled a new slogan, “We Are the Storm.” Over a dozen Republicans running for Congress have signaled support for the QAnon movement. (and many won - my words)

The world has seen QAnon before. It was called Nazism. In QAnon, Nazism wants a comeback.'






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I was curious about the current status of QANON and stumbled upon this.. (Original Post) Joinfortmill Jun 2022 OP
Good to see them denounced as Nazis gratuitous Jun 2022 #1
Bookmarking for later... liberalla Jun 2022 #2
I thought this was common knowledge.... SergeStorms Jun 2022 #3
I did not immediately equate the q-shit to the hitler nazis but it's easy to see the parallels erronis Jun 2022 #6
It's much older than Nazis Effete Snob Jun 2022 #9
Pronounce it as ... Xoan Jun 2022 #4
They do Not-See anything wrong with it either. czarjak Jun 2022 #5
Lost a neighbor friendship over this. I laughed in their face when they started spouting the BS. Ziggysmom Jun 2022 #7
IQ4.5 & Hitler have one thing in common KS Toronado Jun 2022 #8
True. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #10
Hitler and Trump both had horrible, violent fathers. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2022 #23
At least some of them must have given up by now IronLionZion Jun 2022 #11
And it is not an accident relayerbob Jun 2022 #12
It's all quite frightening, but I am still hopeful we will push these beasts back. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #15
I believe we will win, but we are definitely not there yet relayerbob Jun 2022 #18
Not yet. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #19
I heard on Sirius news today a snippet from a speech TFG made last night espousing the Q theory kimbutgar Jun 2022 #13
TFG/Hitler keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #24
Those are chilling pictures side by side. kimbutgar Jun 2022 #26
K & R for a great post. Permanut Jun 2022 #14
Called the Protocols of the Elders of Zion it was produced in Russia around 1902. Ford_Prefect Jun 2022 #16
KNR and bookmarking. For later. niyad Jun 2022 #17
Child sacrifice ymetca Jun 2022 #20
We sacrifice our children to the Gun God. Solomon Jun 2022 #21
Moloch and Mammon keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #27
That's what it is. This is why it works. spedtr90 Jun 2022 #22
Yeah, it's called Advertising! ymetca Jun 2022 #25

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Good to see them denounced as Nazis
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 02:50 PM
Jun 2022

Because there's truly nothing new about Nazis these days, they are indistinguishable from their original incarnation under Hitler.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
3. I thought this was common knowledge....
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:21 PM
Jun 2022

but I guess not. Knowledge, like sense, is becoming less common by the second in republiCON circles.

erronis

(15,355 posts)
6. I did not immediately equate the q-shit to the hitler nazis but it's easy to see the parallels
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 04:11 PM
Jun 2022

While the q-shit is obviously ridiculous, the conglomeration of all of these stupidities seem to stroke those different folks.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
9. It's much older than Nazis
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 04:35 PM
Jun 2022

This thing with drinking the blood of children goes way, way back.

It was common in medieval times.

Ziggysmom

(3,416 posts)
7. Lost a neighbor friendship over this. I laughed in their face when they started spouting the BS.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 04:17 PM
Jun 2022

I asked for qualified, reputable sources that their BS was true. All they had was infowars crap and memes. I said that's not verified facts, it's propaganda like the Nazis used in WWII. The war that killed our grandfathers, fathers, uncles or other family/friends. That is the true history of nazi BS.

IronLionZion

(45,541 posts)
11. At least some of them must have given up by now
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 04:43 PM
Jun 2022

after seeing so many Q predictions fail. Trump is obviously not saving them from whatever scapegoats they are afraid of today.

Q supporters must be super disappointed. Many of them went to prison for storming the Capitol like the fellow with the horns.

relayerbob

(6,559 posts)
12. And it is not an accident
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 04:47 PM
Jun 2022

There are certain governments involved in creating this garbage, in order to bring down the West. #1 on my list od suspects is russia, who clearly practice Nazi-ism, despite their claims to be otherwise. Putin has been working for decades to undermine freely elected governments, and finally founf the right message with QAnon, and a variety of leaders who were willing to throw any and all logic to the wind to attain power. These include Trump, Bolsanaro, Orban and others. The GQP has completely blinded themselves to reality ... or at least the masses have. The leadership, IMO, knows full well what they are trying to accomplish, and have for at least 10-12 years. Or more. Recall Hillary's "Vast right wing conspiracy"? Here you go.

kimbutgar

(21,211 posts)
13. I heard on Sirius news today a snippet from a speech TFG made last night espousing the Q theory
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 04:54 PM
Jun 2022

And I got a chill thinking that TFG sounded like Hitler 2.0 and he might get back in power. It scared the crap out of me!

Ford_Prefect

(7,921 posts)
16. Called the Protocols of the Elders of Zion it was produced in Russia around 1902.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:31 PM
Jun 2022
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Протоколы сионских мудрецов ) or The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion is a fabricated anti-Semitic text purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination. The hoax was plagiarized from several earlier sources, some not anti-Semitic in nature. It was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. It played a key part in popularizing belief in an international Jewish conspiracy.

Distillations of the work were assigned by some German teachers, as if factual, to be read by German schoolchildren after the Nazis came to power in 1933, despite having been exposed as fraudulent by the British newspaper The Times in 1921 and the German Frankfurter Zeitung in 1924. It remains widely available in numerous languages, in print and on the Internet, and continues to be presented by neo-fascist, fundamentalist and anti-Semitic groups as a genuine document. It has been described as "probably the most influential work of antisemitism ever written".

Creation

The Protocols is a fabricated document purporting to be factual. Textual evidence shows that it could not have been produced prior to 1901. It is known that the title of Sergei Nilus' widely distributed edition contains the dates "1902–1903", and it is likely that the document was actually written at this time in Russia, despite Nilus' attempt to cover this up by inserting French-sounding words into his edition. Cesare G. De Michelis argues that it was manufactured in the months after a Russian Zionist congress in September 1902, and that it was originally a parody of Jewish idealism meant for internal circulation among anti-Semites until it was decided to clean it up and publish it as if it were real. Self-contradictions in various testimonies show that the individuals involved—including the text's initial publisher, Pavel Krushevan—deliberately obscured the origins of the text and lied about it in the decades afterwards.

If the placement of the forgery in 1902–1903 Russia is correct, then it was written at the beginning of the anti-Jewish pogroms in the Russian Empire, in which thousands of Jews were killed or fled the country. Many of the people whom De Michelis suspects of involvement in the forgery were directly responsible for inciting the pogroms.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
20. Child sacrifice
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 07:46 PM
Jun 2022

is in the Bible.

Indeed, Jesus is "sold" to us as someone to "take the fall" for all our sins, in a way.

The "scapegoat" idea is very, very, very old. Our oldest appeasement to our most ancient imagined gods.

We've been throwing innocents into the "vat" for eons now, to placate one imagined deity or another. Currently that deity is.. commerce?

For me, the "cabal" is anyone who meets regularly in Davos, or sails around on yachts eating canapes, or wears silly outfits with big pointy hats, or indulges in pompous "power" ceremonies, like Skull and Bones, and whatnot. Magical glowing orb handling misfits, seemingly in charge everywhere these days.

"It's a big club, only you ain't in it", to paraphrase George Carlin.


spedtr90

(719 posts)
22. That's what it is. This is why it works.
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 02:00 PM
Jun 2022

A Game Designer’s Analysis Of QAnon


"When I saw QAnon, I knew exactly what it was and what it was doing. I had seen it before. I had almost built it before. It was gaming’s evil twin. A game that plays people. "

"There is no reality here. No actual solution in the real world. Instead, this is a breadcrumb trail AWAY from reality. Away from actual solutions and towards a dangerous psychological rush. It works very well because when you “figure it out yourself” you own it. You experience the thrill of discovery, the excitement of the rabbit hole, the acceptance of a community that loves and respects you. Because you were convinced to “connect the dots yourself” you can see the absolute logic of it."


https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analysis-of-qanon-580972548be5

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
25. Yeah, it's called Advertising!
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 05:20 PM
Jun 2022

Madison Avenue and K Street are our "game designers".

Ha ha! I figured it out!

{snark}

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