Looks like gun deal is now on life support as GOPs demand Dems loosen the part of the bill

[sheshe2]

Looks like gun deal is now on life support as GOPs demand Dems loosen the part of the bill that restricts domestic abusers ability to buy guns.

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History of domestic gun violence:



Around 4.5 million women in the United States have been threatened with a gun, and nearly 1 million women have been shot or shot at by an intimate partner. Over half of all intimate partner homicides are committed with guns. Indeed, a woman is five times more likely to be murdered when her abuser has access to a gun.

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GOPs demand Dems loosen the part of the bill that restricts domestic abusers ability to buy guns.

GOPs demand Dems loosen the part of the bill that restricts domestic abusers ability to buy guns.

GOPs demand Dems loosen the part of the bill that restricts domestic abusers ability to buy guns.

GOPs demand Dems loosen the part of the bill that restricts domestic abusers ability to buy guns.

GOPs demand Dems loosen the part of the bill that restricts domestic abusers ability to buy guns.

GOPs demand Dems loosen the part of the bill that restricts domestic abusers ability to buy guns.

[RockRaven]

1. I am shocked, SHOCKED, that Lucy is considering pulling the football away again.

[OrlandoDem2]

5. Schumer and the other 49 Democrats in the Senate need to shout it from the mountaintop!

Make it an issue right now!!

[JoeOtterbein]

2. K n R ! Thanks for posting!

The republicants can't even react when babies are slaughtered, over and over, and over.......

(angry tears)

[Rebl2]

27. Because

their supporters are much more important than children. I think if their own children were murdered at school, they would still not pass gun legislation. I hate to say that, but I believe it.

[OrlandoDem2]

3. So spouse abusers/beaters are an influential part of the GOP base.

[Mr.Bill]

13. It's worse than that.

Some of them run for office and win.

[Rebl2]

24. Yep

One was president. Tfg I am sure was at least verbally and psychologically abusive.

[Rebl2]

22. Apparently so

[bucolic_frolic]

4. Never a doubt /nt

[madaboutharry]

6. I see this as intentional sabotage.

Make an untenable demand that the other side can not agree to and voilà, no deal.

The republicans are snakes, dishonest brokers, and con artists. No one should be surprised.

[calimary]

30. Of course it is!

I suspect they had no intention of cooperating. They just wanted to put on a PR show so they look like they care about addressing the gun madness in America. They really don’t. Never did. They don’t care about women OR women’s issues.

And I think we all ought to start saying that, out loud and repeatedly. Relentlessly.

It reminds me of that ongoing theme in the “Peanuts” cartoon strip, in which Lucy repeatedly vows to hold the football for Charlie Brown to kick, but EVERY DAMN TIME, still yanks the football away at the last second, while yet again, Charlie Brown crashes onto the ground on his back with a big thud. EVERY DAMN TIME! And yet he keeps trusting g her assurances and believes her, and gets royally HAD, EVERY DAMN TIME!

And the Democrats get royally HAD, EVERY DAMN TIME, on this. WHY do we keep trusting Republicans on this??? WHY????? I keep hoping our side of the aisle would WAKE UP!!!

[dixiechiken1]

7. Because of course...

That was the only part of the proposal - the only part - that I thought might make a small difference. So naturally, it has to go.

When tf are we going to understand that repubs DO NOT, WILL NOT, CAN NOT negotiate in good faith?

[Beaverhausen]

8. 3 young kids just shot by their dad

Last edited Sat Jun 18, 2022, 12:13 AM - Edit history (1)

Fuck the republicans.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/sacramento-shooting-church-father-daughters/

Four people were killed Monday evening when a father fatally shot three of his children and one other person at a church in Sacramento, California, local officials said. David Mora Rojas, 39, died by suicide after shooting the four others, officials said.

The victims were identified by the coroner's office on Tuesday as Samantha Mora Gutierrez, 10; Samarah Mora Gutierrez, 9; Samia Mora Gutierrez, 13; and Nathaniel Kong, 59, CBS Sacramento reported.

The shooting happened inside a church called The Church in Sacramento at approximately 5 p.m. local time. Sgt. Rod Grassman said that Kong, who was associated with the church, was chaperoning the children during a supervised visit with their father, who was the subject of a restraining order by his estranged girlfriend.

[dalton99a]

15. He drowned them

During a bond court hearing Wednesday, prosecutors alleged 35-year-old Jason Karels drowned the children - ages 5, 3 and 2 - individually in a bathtub before leaving their bodies on a bed in the home.

Also left at the scene was a note that read "If I can't have them, neither can you," prosecutors said in court.

[Beaverhausen]

50. Fixed it

Happy now?

[NCLefty]

61. David Mora Rojas shot his kids, Jason Karels drowned his kids.

The ages of the children are different too.

[jimfields33]

17. This has nothing to do with the subject

Start a separate OP. This is a susan terrible mother type story.

[Beaverhausen]

52. What is a Susan terrible mother story?

And I fixed my link. Jesus Christ.

[jimfields33]

56. Susan smith who drowned her kids in the car in the lake

[Beaverhausen]

57. That's not what happened with these kids at all

Not even close.

[jimfields33]

58. Yeah he drowned them in a bathtub.

Sure didn’t use a gun that’s for sure!!!!!!!!!!!

[Beaverhausen]

59. Again, check my now edited first post

And again what the father who drowned his kids did isn’t comparable to what Susan Smith did.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

9. *cough* cops *cough*

[2naSalit]

10. Same as it ever was.

[llmart]

11. Republicans don't care if women get shot/killed.

Just like they don't care if kids get shot and killed in school. They truly do think women should go back to the 50's when men told them what to do and they waited on them hand and foot and if they didn't, well, you just punch them in the face or twist their arm until it snaps or push them down the stairs or shoot them. They see nothing wrong with that.


Why any woman would vote Republican is beyond me. Can't they see that they hate women?

[BlueIdaho]

12. This was never going to happen

And everyone on DU knew that. If it wasn’t this, it would have been something else.

Only totally detached elected officials believe in fairy tales like this.

[kysrsoze]

14. As GOPlanned... delay, then kill.

[tclambert]

16. So Republicans want wife-beaters to have guns now?

They know women can vote, right?

[jimfields33]

18. Women lose guns too. How soon we leave that out.

[Scrivener7]

26. Huh?

[orleans]

48. yes; how many times have i said: i've lost my guns! ???? nt

[NCLefty]

62. Women abusers? Um, ok.

[Fla_Democrat]

64. Amber Heard

[tirebiter]

19. Who is better off by this bill not getting passed?

[brer cat]

20. Can't say I'm shocked.

What will it take for republican women to rise up and vote them out??

[sheshe2]

36. A miracle.

[orleans]

49. haha. not happening. especially over this. after all, their mate would NEVER shoot them nt

[sarisataka]

21. Strange,

Earlier this week there were many posts that derided this bill to the point of saying Congressional Democrats should vote against it. It was implied no action was better than weak action; especially if it could help Republicans in the midterms.

[sheshe2]

37. Maybe here, not where I was reading.

It is a step forward. Not great, but a step forward.

[SammyBrown]

23. Dems should counter

With Additional items.

[madashelltoo]

25. NEVER believed anything

would be done. They were buying time for the shock, horror and anger to subside. This play is stale and boring. Nothing substantial will ever be done about guns until the Democrats get the numbers. The Republicans simply don’t care.

[SheltieLover]

28. Perhaps that would disqualify the majority of them from gun ownership

Or maybe Pootin doesn't like that part.

[Midnight Writer]

29. LOL. Saw a reporter on the TV earlier who said Cornyn was in good spirits, maybe deal was done.

Maybe she was right, but not in the way she was thinking.

[Deuxcents]

31. The minority is at it again w/ their demands

Why do they always muck things up and yet get re elected? I really did have high hopes for something to happen but this bill didn’t have any teeth to it from the beginning. Now, the term “boyfriend” is the stumper. WTF?

[patphil]

32. What took them so long?

Republicans are assholes.

[gulliver]

33. The cop blaming diversion succeeded

That distraction took the eyes off the prize long enough for the rawness of the event to dissipate.

[LenaBaby61]

34. Nobody I knew seriously thought that anything would be done to stop the senseless killings/murders.

The GQP US Taliban party doesn't CARE, and they continue getting away again with this issue over and over again, and they'll keep getting away with in until Dems have bigger margins in the Senate, House and own the Presidency.

[tirebiter]

35. The issue is getting ANY gun control passed.

Not getting the perfect deal that covers every situation.

[doc03]

38. Can't believe Democrats fell for the same BS again. What was accomplished

teachers can carry guns now "more gun sales". Suckers!

[harumph]

39. Good. Now use it against them in the midterms.

Shout it to the rooftops - "GOPs demand Dems loosen the part of the bill that restricts domestic abusers ability to buy guns."

the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

[JHB]

40. The Republican Wife-Killer Caucus insists that potential wife-killers must have their guns

They haven't done anything. What harm could there be?

[Stuart G]

41. The Republicans ..."ONLY CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES." NO ONE ELSE..

[dchill]

42. No one could have foreseen that GOP-ers would ...

... short-sheet the gun bill. Oh. Wait. I did.

[Javaman]

43. I don't think anyone could have predicted this!

[nakocal]

44. Republicans NEVER would have passed any gun legislation

It was just a ploy to get the media to go into their both sides are alike coverage, convince the fucking stupid republican voters that republicans actually care about kids, and then republican gun nuts will continue to murder kids.

[IronLionZion]

45. The bill was already pretty loose

GOP really wants domestic abusers to have guns. Since they are a core constituency and several hold elected office.

[Hulk]

46. NEVER believed anything of substance was going to come out of this.

cornyn is bought and paid for by the nra and corporate puppet masters. So pathetic the Democrats ever played like something would ever change.

Initially I thought the gQp stooges might give some token, meaningless concessions...but even that was too much to ask.

Love each other, because once you step outside your doors, there's a chance you will be some disgruntled, frustrated white male's target.

This is insane. Maybe this is a blessing. We need to vote out EVERY FUCKUNG NRA STOOGE, and get assault weapons, large capacity magazines BANNED under penalty of jail and confiscation. Buy back at 50%, then make them contraband and lick up violators. No persons under 21 can purchase anything other than personal hunting/ sport guns..to be decided.

This is just fucking insane. The fucking gun manufacturers can buy them back..and gun dealers can chip in as well.

[ancianita]

47. It's on life support because everything the Guns Over People cult touches DIES.

[orleans]

51. well ... if the GOP doesn't stand up & fight for the gun rights of domestic abusers....

then WHO WILL????

[Turbineguy]

53. Crazy, violent people need access to gunz!

She died like an American, she was shot.

[kacekwl]

54. Something is not right here. We go

from assault weapons ban, serious red flag federal program, raise age to 21, waiting period before delivery that a strong majority of Americans are in favor of to some watered down useless smoke and mirrors bill to nothing. Were Democratic party members even involved in this supposed committee ? When the next mass shooting that involves enough children to garner attention of the BREAKING NEWS media what will our excuse be then ? And who will believe it ? We HAD public opinion on our side and this is what we end up with. I am not shocked because from the beginning I could see nothing would be done again. If you want people to vote you have to give them SOMETHING to vote for.

[sheshe2]

60. No.

If you want people to vote you have to give them SOMETHING to vote for.

Sorry, those that give up and don't vote are the problem. We are living in a very effed up world right now. They don't need to be given a reason to vote, they need to vote for themselves and future generations, their own children that in itself is reason enough. We need a huge majority to get things passed.

[kacekwl]

63. Try this, if you want people to vote for you,

you have to give them a reason to vote for you.

[sheshe2]

65. It would be nice, but you shouldn't need a reason to vote.

I didn't love my Rep. He was a D, I and an R, yet ran as a Democrat. I voted for him because there was no other choice. He has been a pretty good congressman so far.

I don't need more than a D after their name, I will vote for our future. Those that don't? Welp, they can't complain if they don't vote. If we lose the house and or Senate this country is screwed. Not enough people vote in a primary. Fact is we need a blue wave to survive.

Let's make that happen.

VOTE

[UTUSN]

55. Of course.