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Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:41 PM Jun 2022

Higher gas prices: Partly greed; Partly to fuck Joe Biden & Dems

Yes, world gas prices are up. But not to the degree to which we're paying and getting fucked.

The oil barons of America (and the world) are cleaning up. But they also know that high prices at the pump will fuck Joe Biden and the Democratic Party. (Many morons really think that people in the congress and the White House control these prices.)

A short story: In 1979, Jimmy Carter was fucked by both high gas prices, and Reagan's campaign conspiring with Iran to not release American hostages until after the presidential election. (They didn't teach this in history class, but if you don't know about it, google Iran American hostages reagan interference.)

Ronald Reagan won the presidency and that was, perhaps, the start of the insanity that infects today's Republican Party.

However, please try to let every idiot you know that Joe and the Dems don't control oil prices.

The truth is that, many of those who own the oil, also own many members of the Republican Party.

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Higher gas prices: Partly greed; Partly to fuck Joe Biden & Dems (Original Post) Cyrano Jun 2022 OP
Reagan is vile root of everything. underpants Jun 2022 #1
And he was quickly followed by Newt Gingrich who Cyrano Jun 2022 #3
I concur. underpants Jun 2022 #4
The whole world is paying more for gasoline. KentuckyWoman Jun 2022 #2
What changed? The oil barons finally realized that Cyrano Jun 2022 #5
Oil refineries went off line during the two years of the pandemic, Sogo Jun 2022 #7
I had not thought of that. Thank you. KentuckyWoman Jun 2022 #9
Predatory Capitalism goal is to install republican puppets. Emile Jun 2022 #6
that's exactly what happened to carter. say it louder for those in the back. mopinko Jun 2022 #8

underpants

(182,823 posts)
1. Reagan is vile root of everything.
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:45 PM
Jun 2022

Yes that was the old white men stepping back in a saying ENOUGH! We’re back in charge. And everything went downhill for most people.

Too many rights and too many losses for them in the 60’s and 70’s. Who do these people think they ARE?!?!

Their fight against climate change is basically them keeping oil alive. Oil gives them money to make sure oil is alive.

Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
3. And he was quickly followed by Newt Gingrich who
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:58 PM
Jun 2022

further poisoned the well.

Without Reagan, Gingrich, and a few other world-class malicious pricks, I don't think Trump would have been electable.

(Actually, Reagan was an amiable imbecile who was a front man for those around him who controlled him, and actually ran the government.)

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
2. The whole world is paying more for gasoline.
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:54 PM
Jun 2022

I have no doubt there are shenanigans going on in the name of greed and also to control populations. In the US the Republicans are certainly using it to hang around Biden. However, in truth there's something bigger than all this at play, because there is a global disconnect between the cost of the oil verses the cost at the pump.

Is it simply that they aren't pricing it at the pump based on costs but on the gambling in "gas futures"? Seems like they've done that awhile now but the curve was reasonably connected to crude oil prices. Something changed. I don't know what.

Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
5. What changed? The oil barons finally realized that
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 02:44 PM
Jun 2022

absolutely no one in the entire world could stop them from charging whatever they wanted to charge. It seems that they should have always known this. Perhaps more countries in the world becoming autocratic have allowed them to buy off any opposition to their concerns that they will get push back.

Right now, the only ones pushing back are those of us around the world, standing at gas pumps, and watching the fucking pump nibble away at our credit cards. But we're powerless. Our "push back" is meaningless.

My guess is that, right now, the oil pricks are figuring how to control what's left of the world's drinkable water supply.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
7. Oil refineries went off line during the two years of the pandemic,
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 02:50 PM
Jun 2022

and many have not come back online. This is part of the increased cost.

I have often wondered why Biden couldn't invoke the Defense Production Act to force oil companies to produce more gasoline, thus bringing the price down....

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
9. I had not thought of that. Thank you.
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 06:52 PM
Jun 2022

I didn't even think about with a world of Covid and travel down all the way around the need for petroleum products dropped tremendously. Getting mothballed facilities back up and running isn't just flipping a switch.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
8. that's exactly what happened to carter. say it louder for those in the back.
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 03:55 PM
Jun 2022

i've probably said that at least a dozen times here of late, and rarely get an amen.

but that IS what happened.

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