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KentuckyWoman

(6,685 posts)
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:45 PM Jun 2022

It ISN'T the cost of crude oil.

June 2008 A barrel sold for $187 - US national average for gas was $4.71
Sept 2014 A barrel sold for $111 - US national average for gas was $3.61
April 2020 A barrel sold for $21 - US national average for gas was $1.95
June 2022 A barrel sold for $108 - US national average for gas is $5.01 (regular)

I keep hearing the blathering heads on TV claiming this is because Russia. Simple supply and demand. Well then why isn't crude up to $200 a barrel to justify the end result at the pump?

Seems to me at $108 a gallon the national average should be well under $4. Someone explain it to me like I'm an imbecile ... because I don't get it.

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LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
1. The price of oil is only one contributing factor to the price of gas.
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:50 PM
Jun 2022

The supply of oil, the refining cost of converting oil to gasoline, the refining capacity that impacts the supply of gasoline, the increased demand for gasoline during the summer for travel and lawn care tools as well as the separate gasoline future markets also contribute to the price of gasoline.

KentuckyWoman

(6,685 posts)
7. All that I understand
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 02:04 PM
Jun 2022

There has historically been a connection between the price at the pump and all those factors. But there is a global disconnect right now that doesn't make mathematical sense to me. All the figuring, even when considering the gambling aspect of the gas futures market, I'm coming up with prices inflated at least 10% above the usual profit margin.

After doing all the math all I can come up with is "because they can". And yet stocks for big oil are down because the earnings in 2022 were disappointing to investors. Add in fears of a global recession coming due to all sorts of things. It looks to me like they are gouging the world as much as possible. Push up the price bubble so they can take the money and run when it all falls.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
3. Billionaires who don't want to pay taxes
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:52 PM
Jun 2022

Pootin, whose largest export is said to be oil...tied up with qpukes.

It's a real mess & I'm sure there might be other reasons.

When will the world stop allowing 1 person (thus far, human males), destroy the world food supply, energy prices, etc? Sickening imo.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. I don't get it either. Crude has to refined and distributed...
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:54 PM
Jun 2022

so the price per bbl is often largely irrevelent. I do know that refinery space is down, so tankers full of crude wander around looking where to dump it.

If someone would actually break down pricing from field to gas station, it would be enlightening.

bucolic_frolic

(43,176 posts)
5. Everything mentioned in the previous post plus consumer expectations and Oil Company greed
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:59 PM
Jun 2022

Any little shortage and everyone rushes to the store to buy all they can. We are a nation of hoarders. Gasoline too. Every car's tank is full, I see guys at the pumps with a pickup-bed full of 5 and 10 gallon containers. Hoarders.

And once the product is moving, gas suppliers aren't dumb. They pile on.

One the Fed slows things down, consumer expectations about scarcity and rising prices will impact consumer demand. We'll buy less, or a normal amount.

Magoo48

(4,712 posts)
6. Yes, and supply is controlled by those mad with greed, and demand is controlled by populations
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 02:01 PM
Jun 2022

who generally refuse to be in inconvenienced. So, it’s Russia, and Biden, and whatever horseshit and gunsmoke is being served on the corporate censored MSM.

jimfields33

(15,820 posts)
8. You forgot state taxes that have increased since 2008
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 02:07 PM
Jun 2022

Pennsylvania went up 50 cents a gallon. I’m sure every other states has gone up to.

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