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Nevilledog

(51,112 posts)
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 03:40 PM Jun 2022

Jan. 6 witnesses push Trump stalwarts back to rabbit hole




https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-ivanka-trump-biden-voting-elections-1ccfd89df6868911d934529b9e47d6c8

One by one, several of Donald Trump’s former top advisers have told a special House committee investigating his role in the Jan. 6 insurrection that they didn’t believe his lies about the 2020 election, and that the former president knew he lost to Joe Biden.

But instead of convincing Trump’s most stalwart supporters, testimony from former attorney general Bill Barr and Trump’s daughter Ivanka about the election and the attack on the U.S. Capitol is prompting many of them to simply reassert their views that the former president was correct in his false claim of victory.

Barr’s testimony that Trump was repeatedly told there was no election fraud? He was paid off by a voting machine company, according to one false claim that went viral this week. Ivanka Trump saying she didn’t believe Trump either? It’s all part of Trump’s grand plan to confuse his enemies and save America.

The claims again demonstrate how deeply rooted Trump’s false narrative about the election has become.

“It’s cognitive dissonance,” said Jennifer Stromer-Galley, a Syracuse University professor who has studied how Trump used social media and advertising to mobilize his base. “If you believe what Trump says, and now Bill Barr and Trump’s own daughter are saying these other things, it creates a crack, and people have to fill it.”

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Jan. 6 witnesses push Trump stalwarts back to rabbit hole (Original Post) Nevilledog Jun 2022 OP
Until now, I never really realized how much Contessa Ivanka looks like the Cloe Bratz doll bottomofthehill Jun 2022 #1
My sister had that doll PJMcK Jun 2022 #7
Political expedience in the face of trump voters empedocles Jun 2022 #2
Cognitive dissonance or stubborn ignorance? gratuitous Jun 2022 #3
Yup....expect to see lots of this from MAGAt election officials Nevilledog Jun 2022 #4
Yea purposely ignorant. LakeArenal Jun 2022 #6
They are clearly nuts Deminpenn Jun 2022 #5
She totally looks like a Sims in that photo, doesn't she? n/t BlueSpot Jun 2022 #8

bottomofthehill

(8,332 posts)
1. Until now, I never really realized how much Contessa Ivanka looks like the Cloe Bratz doll
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 03:43 PM
Jun 2022
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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Cognitive dissonance or stubborn ignorance?
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 05:00 PM
Jun 2022

The True Believers in the Big Lie go to incredible lengths to deny reality.

Nevilledog

(51,112 posts)
4. Yup....expect to see lots of this from MAGAt election officials
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 05:03 PM
Jun 2022


Tweet text:

Derek T. Muller
@derektmuller
·
Jun 17, 2022
Replying to @derektmuller
"We have no proven black and white fact that anything was wrong," a second commissioner is stating now. Also, failure to certify means all the candidates' efforts are for naught, & they won the election "fairly," so refusing to certify is unfair to them.

Derek T. Muller
@derektmuller
"My vote to remain a 'no' is not based on any evidence, not based on any facts, but based on my gut intuition," Griffin says over the phone (he is in DC after being sentenced for a crime committed 1/6/2021).
3:14 PM · Jun 17, 2022



Facts and evidence are irrelevant.

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
5. They are clearly nuts
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 05:05 PM
Jun 2022

Just like alcoholics or other addicts who believe they can stop their addiction "anytime they want".

They are also clearly a minority although quite vocal drawing attention to themselves.

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