OMG. They didn't even TRY THE DOOR!

[Novara]

Link to tweet

It may have been unlocked the entire time they had their thumbs up their asses and 19 children were slaughtered.

[LogicFirst]

1. It's obvious that the back door was open.

[SharonAnn]

39. The back door got closed, but it didn't lock like it should have.

[PJMcK]

2. That department is circling their wagons

They know they failed in the moment it mattered.

I don’t ever want to hear the bullshit about a “good guy” with a gun. These “good guys” let children die while they did nothing.

[NullTuples]

37. Indeed. Within that argument they are assumed to be the ultimate "good guy with a gun" & they failed

[riversedge]

3. This situation gets worse as the days go by.

[Novara]

4. The utter avalanche of dereliction is stunning

Didn't. Even. Try. The. Door.

I can't even imagine.

[onecaliberal]

5. I heard that last week. The question was asked but there was no answer.

[Stuart G]

6. This is the exact reason that the police are totally silent, and won't talk to anyone...

The cops are "no talkers" and the city will pay a terrible price for their total ignorance.

Not only in reputation will the city pay, but in law suits in the millions. Tens of millions.

[Arazi]

12. I remind you the police have ZERO responsibility to save anyone

Including kids.

Plus they are immune to lawsuits. Qualified immunity protects their decisions. I don’t foresee the parents getting anything from the police

[Dave says]

23. I foresee multimillion dollar settlements

[Arazi]

25. The school system and the Uvalde city taxpayers will pay. Not the police

The teacher who went outside and improperly propped the door open, the same door that didnt lock when she went to shut it, she will pay.

Not the police. Never the police. That’s the law as it stands now

[Dave says]

26. Yes, that is what the local voters set up

That in itself is part of the tragedy. The actual miscreants walk free.

[wnylib]

57. They will pay socially if not financially.

I would not want to be present when the parent of a murdered child encounters one of those cops in the grocery store.

[KS Toronado]

28. "ZERO responsibility to save anyone"

How does "To Protect and Serve" fit in with their job description?

Holy shit, unlocked door plus they never went to the windows to shoot through.

[Arazi]

38. In the Castle Rock case, SCOTUS ruled police have no responsibility to save you

“Protect and serve” is a nice moral motto but not a legal one.

https://amp.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article262044822.html

[WhiskeyGrinder]

45. .

How does "To Protect and Serve" fit in with their job description?

It doesn't. It's a marketing line.

[IronLionZion]

7. Police fear for their lives

as the excuse to beat up and kill unarmed people, not to save children and teachers from an armed asshole shooting them.

If police are so afraid of these AR-15 style weapons, then maybe it shouldn't be so easy to get.

[usaf-vet]

24. Especially when they are aware of the weapons the shooter was carrying and the potential ammo...

.... he had in those weapons. That should be the best testimony to the fact that the NRA and the gun nuts in Congress keep our police forces outgunned.

I'm old enough and have owned guns long enough to remember the days when certain weapons AND ammo were ONLY available to law enforcement.

[IronLionZion]

36. It's time for more "well regulated militia" and less "shall not be infringed"

I would support some sort of permit system for folks who want these weapons. It can include lots of training and exams.

[usaf-vet]

43. Exactly! Here is the best alternative wording I have heard.

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms when serving in the Militia shall not be infringed.”

[keithbvadu2]

48. "so afraid of these AR-15 style weapons"

[IronLionZion]

50. Uvalde police have AR-15s

but claim they were worried kids might get caught in the crossfire

[cloudboy07]

8. " To Protect & Serve ! "

[RANDYWILDMAN]

9. may those people rot in hell

you could have saved a child...fuck you assholes

[LoisB]

10. Totally agree. How they could stand there and listen to those children being murdered is beyond

my comprehension.

[Novara]

11. I hope every single one of them is sued into complete financial ruin for the rest of their lives

[Nevilledog]

13. The door couldn't be locked from the inside.

Link to tweet

Tweet text:

Brian Chasnoff
@bchasnoff
For more than an hour, police never tried to open a door to the rooms where a gunman massacred 21 people at Robb Elementary, a source tells me.

The gunman could not have locked it from the inside. The doors can only be locked or unlocked from outside.

expressnews.com
Source: Police never tried to open door to classrooms where Uvalde gunman had kids trapped
Surveillance footage shows police never tried to open the door to the classrooms at Robb...
2:43 PM · Jun 18, 2022

[dalton99a]

21. +1

[ProfessorGAC]

34. I Believe It

All 15 schools where i sub are only locked & unlocked using a key on the hallway side handle.
One neat little lockdown thing I've seen would allow for locking down from inside but, that's only 1 in 15, and one needs to know how to do it. It's easy but not intuitively obvious.
I've seen no school doors that can be locked from the inside.
If the shooter got in, the door was unlocked.

[gldstwmn]

52. Why do they lock from the outside but not the inside?

[ProfessorGAC]

56. Not Certain

I could hazard a guess, but it would be just that.
In many districts, the doors are required to be locked the whole day.
Even as a sub, I'm given a key to get in & out of the room.
In some districts, they want the door locked, but can be propped open. If they need to lock down, all one need do is close the door.
My best guess is that it strongly motivates staff to always have their key handy. Even if locked doors are policy, anybody could accidentally lock themselves out. If the only way to lock it is with a key, one is less likely to lock their keys in the room. Just a guess.
But, I've honestly not seen a door that locks from the inside even with the key.

[Tommymac]

14. Recced & Kicked because the police didn't.

[SergeStorms]

15. Ted Cruz and his, "only one fortified door"...

text in 3....2....1...

There were just too many doors. The police became confused by the sheer number of doors to choose from. 😳

[OnlinePoker]

16. The thin yellow line. n/t

[calimary]

17. And a wide yellow line down their backs.

[FreepFryer]

18. When craven self interest, indifference to suffering and corruption is glorified at the top...

...willingness to openly practice it trickles down.

[Progressive Lawyer]

19. Perhaps, it's giving too much credit to the Uvalde cops to say they assumed the doors were locked.

Perhaps they knew the doors were unlocked the entire time.

[ck4829]

20. ...

[niyad]

22. May all involved receive everything they deserve.

[leftyladyfrommo]

27. I'm afraid this is just small town cops.

We need to focus on how best to protect these kids in smalltown schools because their police departments aren't up to this kind of violence.

And maybe this is one instance where Federal money could fund special officers that guard these schools.

And these sicko wackos know that and that's where they will hit. They pass the information around.

[keithbvadu2]

47. They underwent training for this type scenario.

They should quit wasting taxpayer money for training they'll never use.

[leftyladyfrommo]

49. Most small towns it's kids just starting and old guys

On the way to retirement. We need a wbole new way of looking at things because the old way is not working.

My mother taught 4th grade in the Watts in LA during all that trouble in the early 70s. Their school had at least a 10 foot iron fence all around with huge, heavy iron gates. At the first hint of trouble those gates swung shut. It worked and the kuds felt safer. It would need modification for the current situation.

It was in the Watts. It was a violent time. The police couldn't really help those little kids, either. The school district had to make those schools safe.

[keithbvadu2]

51. Yeah.

They should quit wasting taxpayer money for training they'll never use.

[inthewind21]

59. What

Aren't up to this kind of violence? Small town excuses.

[leftyladyfrommo]

60. Parkville, Mo. Maybe 7,000 people.

There was a wreck right in front of me on Thanksgiving
About 5. The kid that smashed into the car turning into Riss Lake was doing about 80 in a 45. His license was suspended, his registration expired. He could see that intersection for half a mile so there was no reason that he couldn't have just slowed down and let the left turn finish his turn.

It was Thanksgiving end of the shift . They did not get the names or information from people who saw the whole thing. They just gave a ticket to the left turn.
And then they went home.

Small town USA.

[Vinca]

29. But I bet on the weekends they're big, tough guys running around the grocery store with

their weapons of war. This must be a coverup of epic proportions.

[quakerboy]

30. This will not be the worst part of what police did that day

At least thats my prediction. I think there is much worse to come.

[Arazi]

40. Yup, I think they're covering up that an officer shot a child

[quakerboy]

58. I take it you also saw the picture of the Uvalde swat team

With their body armor and weapons which are virtually certainly all chambered in .556.

[Jilly_in_VA]

31. Standing around doing fcuking NOTHING!

At least that's what it looks like.

[FakeNoose]

32. Why would a school have a door that can only be locked from the outside of the school?

I'm trying to wrap my head around this. What would be the purpose of such a door?

Teachers going outside to smoke, and not allowing their kids to come out and see them?
I got nothin'!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

33. Katie Phang's commentary about the city of Uvalde withholding records following the tragic shooting

Link to tweet

[gulliver]

35. No need to look at gun laws. Just get better cops!

Just terrible how flighty and emotionally gullible people can be. The story of Uvalde was over the day of the massacre. The continuing series, "Cops did wrong," took over and drowned out the original story: "Broken nut gets gun and carries out school massacre."

It's too late now. We lost the momentum on common sense gun control. The "cops were bad" angle took all the charge out of the lightning bolt. The gun industry, the NRA, and the Republicans were spared.

[Novara]

41. I don't see it that way

That's your opinion. I see it a little differently: if the cops weren't so goddamn scared shitless of his AR15 they likely wouldn't have stood in the hallway shitting their pants in fear for 70 minutes. They were scared shitless of that weapon. They know how dangerous these guns are.

If the kid had a pistol do you really think the cops would have stood in the hallway for 70 minutes?

I don't.

[twodogsbarking]

46. I could be wrong but I think you completely missed the point.

[leftyladyfrommo]

55. Humans seem to need a scapegoat. And it was such a

clusterfuck. Their response made a horrific situation even more horrendous. Really, it's just unbelievable.

Something in our society is allowing these completely wacko young men to proliferate.

We, as a society need to be looking at where we are going so completely wrong.

[pinkstarburst]

42. I have never believed their original story

that they had to wait to get a janitor to unlock the door so they could breach the classroom. That smelled like a lie from the start.

I was a teacher for two decades. I have never taught on a campus where the principal and assistant principal did not have keys to every single classroom on campus, in addition to all the janitors. This idea that we had to track down Luis the janitor who was off on his lunch break and that was the holdup is just ludicrous. There would always be an administrator, if not multiple administrators on campus, and those keys would always be in the office and accessible, if not on the physical person of the administrator. I have never taught on a campus where this wasn't standard practice.

[dsc]

44. same here

and at my school some teachers have keys that open multiple classrooms (mine opens at least a dozen). It is beyond absurd to think that a master key wasn't available.

[Ilsa]

53. I guess none of those police had a kid in school?

I can't help but wonder. Or were the children "someone else's kids?"

[Novara]

54. They were someone else's kids

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was a primarily Latino school and a primarily white police force. I dobt the cops standing in the hallway has a kid in those classrooms.