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The Navy Fires Fourth Commander in Seven Days
The recent firings are a notable spike in the steady drumbeat of reliefs that the Navy uses to hold its leaders accountable.
1:18 PM · Jun 20, 2022
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/06/15/navy-fires-fourth-commander-seven-days.html
The Navy has announced yet another firing of a commanding officer -- Cmdr. Peter Lesaca of the destroyer USS Preble -- in a press release Tuesday evening. Lesaca is the fourth commander to be relieved by the Navy in the last seven days.
In addition to Lesaca, the Navy announced on Saturday that it relieved the commander and top enlisted representative of the destroyer USS Bulkeley. The same day, the service also relieved the commanding officer of its boot camp at Great Lakes, Illinois. Finally, the commander of Electronic Attack Squadron (VAQ) 137 was relieved on June 8.
The recent firings are a notable spike in the steady drumbeat of reliefs that the Navy uses to hold its leaders accountable for issues from personal misconduct to failings at their commands. Since May, the Navy has fired eight leaders, including the commander and executive officer of its Naval Justice School and the commander of Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron (HSC) 28. Since the start of the year, the sea service has relieved or reassigned at least 15 commanders, executive officers or command enlisted representatives.
In all of the cases the Navy's official reason for the firing has been due to a loss of confidence to command -- a general term that obscures the actual reason for a firing. However, in some cases, the service has been willing to provide more detail.
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Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)A far back as Thucydides it has been recognized that the cultural values of societies strongly shape the culture of their militaries, and that the reverse is also true.
When military cultures are allowed to become sick and dishonorable it presents a very serious challenge to the civilian culture.
Bravo to General Austin and his Commander-in-Chief for acting to protect the Republic.
former9thward
(32,080 posts)The only two cited were personal misconduct issues (DWIs).
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)former9thward
(32,080 posts)The OP said "KKK".
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)halfulglas
(1,654 posts)This means they'll also start addressing the incompetent and/or racist/misogynistic enlisted also. When they get rid of the commanders, the ranks realize he's serious and will either shape up or ship out. Go after the Christofascists next, unless this gang includes some of those who won't promote anyone not in the club.
Irish_Dem
(47,395 posts)I grew up as a military brat in the Air Force so the saying was "straighten up and fly right, or else."
We never wanted to find out what the or else meant.
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,395 posts)JanMichael
(24,890 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)that is all
Zeitghost
(3,868 posts)Baseless speculation?
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Were for DUI arrests, not convictions. I can assure you, that any officer of any rank in the Navy who is arrested for DUI will be discharged from the service. Not necessarily true of enlisted persons
The rest of the discharges as far as I can tell were for non-ideological reasons.
gladium et scutum
(808 posts)They will be removed of their current position and sent to some staff job somewhere in the area. In most cases they will be allowed to stay on active duty until the reach the retirement time for their pay rank.
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gladium et scutum
(808 posts)I reviewed SECNAVINST 1920.6d of July 2019. Nowhere in that instruction did I find a requirement to discharge an officer for the first DUI offense. DUIs are tried by Courts Martial. The Court does have the authority to order dismissal of an officer for a DUI, but that is only one of the punishments that may be awarded and is not mandatory. If I have not found the correct section of 1920.6d or have read the wrong guidance on the matter, I would appreciate knowing the appropriate section or instruction number so that I may study it.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)does these cases in CT. It's a universal rule.
gladium et scutum
(808 posts)it will be written down in either SECDEF instructions, if applicable to all armed services or SECNAV Instructions, if applicable to the Navy. The armed forces of the United States do not operate by unwritten rules. I have known of officers that were allowed to remain on active duty with one DUI until their earliest eligibility date for retirement. I have also known of officers that were dismissed from the service after one DUI by sentence of a Courts Martial.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)If you are eligible to retire.
Deminpenn
(15,290 posts)With "up or out", they will have to leave after being passed over twice for their next promotion.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Not one of these people is identified as being fired for ideological reasons.
In addition, Gen Austin and Gen Milley are not in their chain of command and they have less than zero input into personnel decisions, especially at this level.
Kaleva
(36,343 posts)General. Austin isn't connected in any way with the firings