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no_hypocrisy

(46,202 posts)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 08:50 AM Jun 2022

Don't believe that all MAGAts will "wake up" and realize they bet on the wrong horse,

i.e., TFG.

I've been to Germany in the 70s and the 90s. There are average folks who still long for the "good old days" of Hitler and national socialism. They go into the woods, drink beer, and sing Third Reich songs, lustily. They have Third Reich/Hitler memorabilia in their homes, hidden in their cellars, under glass no less.

So there will be some diehard Trump fans for decades. They are tattooed.

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Don't believe that all MAGAts will "wake up" and realize they bet on the wrong horse, (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Jun 2022 OP
We don't need the hardcore MAGAts moose65 Jun 2022 #1
This is an important point. Bucky Jun 2022 #2
"flipping" votes? dwayneb Jun 2022 #3
Nobody likes to admit that they made a wrong choice... Your not gonna see Magats on street corners mitch96 Jun 2022 #4
I don't believe ANY of them will. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2022 #5
This is my nightmare.... Jade Fox Jun 2022 #6
More like "real reactionary-ism"... AntiFascist Jun 2022 #9
I would never make that mistake. Aristus Jun 2022 #7
I don't expect that at all. I do hope the "reflexive" R voters will wake up. Midnight Writer Jun 2022 #8

moose65

(3,168 posts)
1. We don't need the hardcore MAGAts
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:12 AM
Jun 2022

We need to drive these points home to independent voters and so-called "sane" Republicans (of which there are a few, actually).

The hardcore Trumpers are beyond help. However, the hearings will help to make sure there are no new Trumpers!

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
2. This is an important point.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:23 AM
Jun 2022

I feel hopeful that the hearings are connecting the dots and exposing the actual crimes of Trump's regime. But the GOP propaganda machine is still fully intact, Fox News is still a control of millions of Americans perceptions about reality, and the voters in their thrall are still as ignorant as they were before the hearings.

It's gratifying to see it all laid out with authority and sobriety. But it only matters if it flips votes... and it's only going to flip votes if we can wake up swing voters. Meanwhile, inflation is still hovering around 8½% and biden's support numbers are hovering down in the doldrums

dwayneb

(768 posts)
3. "flipping" votes?
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:42 AM
Jun 2022

The real problem is the 50% of Americans that don't even bother to vote. These people look around them and see nothing wrong, nothing worth taking the time to go to the ballot box.

These are the people we have to reach, because it is their apathy that is destroying our democracy.

mitch96

(13,926 posts)
4. Nobody likes to admit that they made a wrong choice... Your not gonna see Magats on street corners
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:48 AM
Jun 2022

waving flags saying they screwed up. As the saying goes, Denial is not only a river in Egypt...
YMMV
m

BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
5. I don't believe ANY of them will.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:50 AM
Jun 2022

But it doesn’t really matter now, most of the MAGAts I know have moved on from him, they’re all about DeSantis. They still love Piss Wig but they don’t want him to run again, he did the heavy lifting to get “real conservatism” into the mainstream.

Jade Fox

(10,030 posts)
6. This is my nightmare....
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:07 AM
Jun 2022

Trump is done, as far as regaining any official power goes.

DeSantis, on the other hand, is the face of MAGA with smarts and discipline.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
9. More like "real reactionary-ism"...
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 03:13 PM
Jun 2022

they want to radically move the US backward to a time when white heterosexual men stood above all others.

Aristus

(66,467 posts)
7. I would never make that mistake.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 10:11 AM
Jun 2022

I learned a long time ago the simple fact that Trumpsters and their ilk have no minds to change.

I don’t expect that will ever change. The mediocre and the totally incompetent need the brainless drones to do their bidding. So they will always cultivate the uneducated clods assiduously.

Midnight Writer

(21,803 posts)
8. I don't expect that at all. I do hope the "reflexive" R voters will wake up.
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 01:39 PM
Jun 2022

The single-issue voters, the family legacy voters, the Main Street Republicans need to stop automatically voting for Republicans and realize that Republicans imperil our Democracy.





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