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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHey Susan Sarandon, Ted Rall, Jimmy Dore hell even Michael Moore
Are your proud of yourselves?
You kept saying that you causes were so noble that you just had to kneecap Gore, Clinton and Obama. Yes too far to the right, BUT, you did nto feel that things would get so bad, did you?
Now, as good ol Ginny's husband Justime Clarence says:
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3535841-thomas-calls-for-overturning-precedents-on-contraceptives-lgbtq-rights/
The US is becoming another hellhole. When this is sued to get desantais or Trump into office, it will not be a civil war, it will be the confederacy using their Russian allies to either enslave or slaughter everyone that does not serve the Billionaires and clergy.
I would nto wish a force pregnancy on anyone..but, I woudl be l;yign if I did nto wonder if Susan had to deal with the results of what she did.
Miguelito Loveless
(4,470 posts)That we WON the elections in 2000 and 2016, but we lost them thanks to a slave-era electoral system which subverted "one person, one vote". This systems means that despite winning by millions of votes, we still lost "in the electoral college".
Until that system is banned, this will keep happening.
Mad_Machine76
(24,436 posts)but the margins in the states that determined the election went only narrowly for Trump. Had a few more people voted for Hillary instead of sitting it out or throwing their votes away on Stein or Johnson, the outcome might have been different.
Miguelito Loveless
(4,470 posts)the win would have been substantial for us. But more people failed to vote than voted for third-party candidates.
A substantial portion of our electorate is ignorant/apathetic/lazy.
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)Wednesdays
(17,402 posts)Why is that?
In no way am I saying Sarandon, Moore, etc. aren't partially culpable, but really we're talking about the fly in the ointment rather than the 800 pound gorilla in the room.
TheProle
(2,193 posts)than it is to march into an uncertain future.
I understand the impulse, but it does nothing but dilute and divide our ranks when we need unity.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)but as we have found out, the past is not the past. Do you really think Susan will do a mea culpa and NOT try to hamstring Biden? We need to look at the past to NOT repeat it, whether it is the stuff we have allowed the right to label "CRT", or this, because the right wing wants a nation that will make the old Confederacy look like San Francisco. They are looking to the future, to destroy it!
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)any more than we have to say water is wet. The problem is that there are people, many of them centrists, who do not realize this is a CIVIL WAR! They want to kill everyone not them,. The Billionaires want to kill anyone not useful to them. The Chruch knows they can manipulate everyone. So yes, for those whose foolishness' kept us from victories, that, as one poster on this thread put, we RIGHFULLY WON, yes we will slam those who are swelf declared left, but who know they are the BEST allies the right has. The right can toos people out like Garbage, but they will still support the self abosrbed on the far left.
W_HAMILTON
(7,871 posts)...so that disasters like Bush and Trump could eke their way into office to inflict these sorts of long-lasting damages on our country and now our democracy.
For the dumbasses like those mentioned that apparently can't tell the difference between the left and the right, CAN YOU TELL THE DIFFERENCE NOW?
TwilightZone
(25,473 posts)The vast, vast majority of the threads about Roe v Wade are critical of the ruling, the Supreme Court, and the GOP.
There's plenty of blame to go around, but if all you see is criticism of the left, you're not really looking that hard.
Hav
(5,969 posts)are more upset about some idiots getting called out for being selfish, stupid and butthurt than they are about the actual consequences of the actions of those idiots, like losing the right to have an abortion. But priorities, right?
There is no point in calling out repubs for being anti-abortion. They fought against that right for decades. Deplorable characters like Sarandon helped those anti-abortion repubs to achieve what they wanted.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)for saying what I wish i could have said
emulatorloo
(44,175 posts)Republicans do. Discouraging people to vote Democratic/encouraging people to vote 3rd party.
They help Republicans win.
It is still going on now as we approach the mid-terms.
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,239 posts)W_HAMILTON
(7,871 posts)Fuck them forever.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)Sorry but I decide who I vote for - I don't vote for whoever my favorite actor or sports hero tell me to.
AZProgressive
(29,322 posts)Jimmy Dore is mostly a right winger these days. He may be the Peoples Party candidate for President in 2024 that is if they can get on the ballot.
SYFROYH
(34,183 posts)Just my opinion
Mister Ed
(5,943 posts)Emile
(22,887 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)They all played their part in Trump's win.
Emile
(22,887 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)Emile
(22,887 posts)Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Yep and every idiot who agreed with with them, didnt vote, couldnt vote hrc etc. FUCK YOU ALL TO HELL. You murdered my father. You are responsible for everything bad that has happened, for fascism, as well as for this. TG I will never need an abortion, I am way past that.