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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:15 PM Jun 2022

Hey Susan Sarandon, Ted Rall, Jimmy Dore hell even Michael Moore

Are your proud of yourselves?

You kept saying that you causes were so noble that you just had to kneecap Gore, Clinton and Obama. Yes too far to the right, BUT, you did nto feel that things would get so bad, did you?

Now, as good ol Ginny's husband Justime Clarence says:
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3535841-thomas-calls-for-overturning-precedents-on-contraceptives-lgbtq-rights/

The US is becoming another hellhole. When this is sued to get desantais or Trump into office, it will not be a civil war, it will be the confederacy using their Russian allies to either enslave or slaughter everyone that does not serve the Billionaires and clergy.

I would nto wish a force pregnancy on anyone..but, I woudl be l;yign if I did nto wonder if Susan had to deal with the results of what she did.

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Hey Susan Sarandon, Ted Rall, Jimmy Dore hell even Michael Moore (Original Post) DonCoquixote Jun 2022 OP
One more time, fairness compels me to point out Miguelito Loveless Jun 2022 #1
We lost under the only system we had in place Mad_Machine76 Jun 2022 #4
Yes, and if more people had actually voted Miguelito Loveless Jun 2022 #10
Fuck them all. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #2
Interesting how I see more threads bashing people on the left than on the right. Wednesdays Jun 2022 #3
It's easier to point fingers at the past TheProle Jun 2022 #5
yes we need unity DonCoquixote Jun 2022 #8
we do not need to say the right is scum DonCoquixote Jun 2022 #6
Because they helped depress the vote just enough... W_HAMILTON Jun 2022 #7
Not really. TwilightZone Jun 2022 #11
And it's interesting how some Hav Jun 2022 #16
thank you DonCoquixote Jun 2022 #26
Because these self-styled 'leftists' poisoned the well by constantly blaming Democrats for what emulatorloo Jun 2022 #17
Well said! comradebillyboy Jun 2022 #19
It's a form of trolling meant to divide us. nt RandiFan1290 Jun 2022 #27
Yep, fuck them all to hell. W_HAMILTON Jun 2022 #9
Who are Ted Rall and Jimmy Dore? Beaverhausen Jun 2022 #12
Ted Rall is a political cartoonist AZProgressive Jun 2022 #15
They are not really the problem. No one gets all the votes SYFROYH Jun 2022 #13
Oh, but it's all good 'cause this will only hasten the Revolution, dontcha know. Mister Ed Jun 2022 #14
I blame Trump! eom Emile Jun 2022 #18
Trump had a lot of help from the populist left, the right and the Russians. comradebillyboy Jun 2022 #20
I still blame Trumpl Emile Jun 2022 #21
I won't forgive his enablers, none of them. comradebillyboy Jun 2022 #23
and I won't forgive Trump! Emile Jun 2022 #24
This Meowmee Jun 2022 #22
I include Eddie Glaude in this group LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #25
2016 was the most important election of your lifetime LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #28

Miguelito Loveless

(4,470 posts)
1. One more time, fairness compels me to point out
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:22 PM
Jun 2022

That we WON the elections in 2000 and 2016, but we lost them thanks to a slave-era electoral system which subverted "one person, one vote". This systems means that despite winning by millions of votes, we still lost "in the electoral college".

Until that system is banned, this will keep happening.

Mad_Machine76

(24,436 posts)
4. We lost under the only system we had in place
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:25 PM
Jun 2022

but the margins in the states that determined the election went only narrowly for Trump. Had a few more people voted for Hillary instead of sitting it out or throwing their votes away on Stein or Johnson, the outcome might have been different.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,470 posts)
10. Yes, and if more people had actually voted
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:36 PM
Jun 2022

the win would have been substantial for us. But more people failed to vote than voted for third-party candidates.

A substantial portion of our electorate is ignorant/apathetic/lazy.

Wednesdays

(17,402 posts)
3. Interesting how I see more threads bashing people on the left than on the right.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jun 2022

Why is that?


In no way am I saying Sarandon, Moore, etc. aren't partially culpable, but really we're talking about the fly in the ointment rather than the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

TheProle

(2,193 posts)
5. It's easier to point fingers at the past
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:25 PM
Jun 2022

than it is to march into an uncertain future.

I understand the impulse, but it does nothing but dilute and divide our ranks when we need unity.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
8. yes we need unity
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:30 PM
Jun 2022

but as we have found out, the past is not the past. Do you really think Susan will do a mea culpa and NOT try to hamstring Biden? We need to look at the past to NOT repeat it, whether it is the stuff we have allowed the right to label "CRT", or this, because the right wing wants a nation that will make the old Confederacy look like San Francisco. They are looking to the future, to destroy it!

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
6. we do not need to say the right is scum
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:28 PM
Jun 2022

any more than we have to say water is wet. The problem is that there are people, many of them centrists, who do not realize this is a CIVIL WAR! They want to kill everyone not them,. The Billionaires want to kill anyone not useful to them. The Chruch knows they can manipulate everyone. So yes, for those whose foolishness' kept us from victories, that, as one poster on this thread put, we RIGHFULLY WON, yes we will slam those who are swelf declared left, but who know they are the BEST allies the right has. The right can toos people out like Garbage, but they will still support the self abosrbed on the far left.

W_HAMILTON

(7,871 posts)
7. Because they helped depress the vote just enough...
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:30 PM
Jun 2022

...so that disasters like Bush and Trump could eke their way into office to inflict these sorts of long-lasting damages on our country and now our democracy.

For the dumbasses like those mentioned that apparently can't tell the difference between the left and the right, CAN YOU TELL THE DIFFERENCE NOW?

TwilightZone

(25,473 posts)
11. Not really.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:37 PM
Jun 2022

The vast, vast majority of the threads about Roe v Wade are critical of the ruling, the Supreme Court, and the GOP.

There's plenty of blame to go around, but if all you see is criticism of the left, you're not really looking that hard.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
16. And it's interesting how some
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:42 PM
Jun 2022

are more upset about some idiots getting called out for being selfish, stupid and butthurt than they are about the actual consequences of the actions of those idiots, like losing the right to have an abortion. But priorities, right?
There is no point in calling out repubs for being anti-abortion. They fought against that right for decades. Deplorable characters like Sarandon helped those anti-abortion repubs to achieve what they wanted.

emulatorloo

(44,175 posts)
17. Because these self-styled 'leftists' poisoned the well by constantly blaming Democrats for what
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:58 PM
Jun 2022

Republicans do. Discouraging people to vote Democratic/encouraging people to vote 3rd party.

They help Republicans win.

It is still going on now as we approach the mid-terms.

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
12. Who are Ted Rall and Jimmy Dore?
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:39 PM
Jun 2022

Sorry but I decide who I vote for - I don't vote for whoever my favorite actor or sports hero tell me to.

AZProgressive

(29,322 posts)
15. Ted Rall is a political cartoonist
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:42 PM
Jun 2022

Jimmy Dore is mostly a right winger these days. He may be the Peoples Party candidate for President in 2024 that is if they can get on the ballot.

comradebillyboy

(10,174 posts)
20. Trump had a lot of help from the populist left, the right and the Russians.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:09 PM
Jun 2022

They all played their part in Trump's win.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
22. This
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:16 PM
Jun 2022

Yep and every idiot who agreed with with them, didn’t vote, couldn’t vote hrc etc. FUCK YOU ALL TO HELL. You murdered my father. You are responsible for everything bad that has happened, for fascism, as well as for this. TG I will never need an abortion, I am way past that.

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