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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAm I right in thinking
That a young woman living in say Alabama who is going on a trip to California, might be questioned
why she is going and could be stopped?
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,196 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,138 posts)They will accuse her of leaving the state to commit a murder and stop her on those grounds?
Detain her until she has the baby.
I know it sounds ridiculous, but this is where the red states are heading.
They want to make it a crime to leave the state for an abortion.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)if she went to a state that actually cared about women's rights
this is why they are pushing for the total ban at the fed level, so they can penalize EVERYONE
Irish_Dem
(47,138 posts)But the logic seems to be this:
One state says abortion is a crime.
The state says we have evidence that you are going to leave the state to commit a crime.
We are not going to allow you to travel for the purpose of committing a crime.
We don't care if it is legal elsewhere. Here it is a crime and we won't let you cross state lines to commit a crime.
And since you are planning to murder a fetus we can hold you until the baby is born.
I think that is what the red states are trying to do.
But it hurts my brain to think like a RWNJ.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)but certainly that is what they will be pushing for
Irish_Dem
(47,138 posts)Make it a crime to travel and cross state lines for an abortion.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)if it's age 21 to drink in one state so an 18 year old drives to another state where it's age 18 to drink, that 18yr old cannot be arrested (unless, of course, he elects to drive home drunk).
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216842563
Irish_Dem
(47,138 posts)you?
I think it is more along those lines, a felony murder situation, not just underage drinking.
I read that they are planning to make it illegal to travel for an abortion. I don't know the specifics.
But I think this might be the reasoning.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)I cannot see that happening
Irish_Dem
(47,138 posts)The law is going to be what they say it is.
Most of us have never lived under a dictatorship, but we will soon find out what it means.
They can basically do whatever they want. If you read about fascist dictatorships around the world you will see what I mean.
We are so used to rule of law and freedom we cannot even wrap our heads around what is happening now.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)over and out
FBaggins
(26,748 posts)I cant think of a parallel situation that works with this example. States cant forbid you from crossing state lines nor from doing something that is legal in the state you travel to.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)How would that work out? Men humping their guns instead of women and women living in Warren -Jeff-like communities?
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)why you are going there.
And it's perfectly fine to keep your top lip plastered to your bottom lip and not answer.
When it becomes an arrest-able offence for not answering, then we're in a bad way.
Something like this is just one of the million issues that the supreme court did not consider, since they "make their decisions in a vacuum".
FBaggins
(26,748 posts)There isnt an effective way for Alabama to do this.
Bettie
(16,111 posts)how can she prove that she didn't cause it.
Women will die because they are too afraid to go to the hospital when miscarrying.
Womens health care will be severely and cruelly denied. Reproductive rights are human rights.