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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre Manchin, Collins and Murkowski mad enough about being lied to
to do something...like...I don't know...join Democratic Senators in breaking the filibuster, codifying the right to choose, and EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF SUPREME COURT JUSTICES?
If not, then I am all out of fucks to give about comes out of their fucking pieholes.
Autumn
(45,109 posts)They FUCKING knew this would happen.
mitch96
(13,912 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)That dark money, and their masters have such a tight hold on them that all the care about is MONEY and pleasing their master's.
lees1975
(3,861 posts)Collins gained her seat back by taking a strong pro-choice position and then getting Kavanaugh and Gorsuch to tell her they would not vote to overturn Roe. They lied to her directly. Does she have the integrity to do something about it or is she just going to sit there like a useless puddle and hope this blows over with voters by the time she has to worry about re-election.
Take down the filibuster. And while you're at it, draw up articles of impeachment for the two who openly lied to you.
TwilightZone
(25,472 posts)She has also vowed to work on further legislation codifying Roe.
https://democraticunderground.com/100216841789
Collins is concerned. Manchin is disappointed.
ruet
(10,039 posts)In the face of disaster we pick at scraps.
TwilightZone
(25,472 posts)Obviously, we'd prefer a D in that seat, but if it has to be an R, she's one of the only relatively-moderate ones left. She at least shows occasional signs of having a conscience.
Sadly, legislation is likely going nowhere.
Sogo
(4,986 posts)kacekwl
(7,017 posts)I hope members of their family are affected by this and all the other bullshit they helped come about.
lees1975
(3,861 posts)The Democrats can amend the Judiciary Act of 1789, which established the court. Doesn't require an amendment or a two thirds majority. If Manchin is this upset, and Sinema has always been on board with pro-choice, there's 50 votes, with the VP 51 to remove the filibuster and amend the act to allow Biden to appoint as many justices as they want to let him have.
Collins and Murkowski might or might not get on board with that but wouldn't be needed.
It's time.
Ocelot II
(115,748 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,282 posts)Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)They knew they were lied to and winked at the liars the entire time.
Orrex
(63,216 posts)Collins will wail and gnash her teeth and then vote exactly as her party tells her to vote. Murkowski will do the same but with less of a show of soul-searching.
Manchin will do a Manchin.
ebbie15644
(1,215 posts)Performative bullshit from them. They new exactly who these people were
Iggo
(47,558 posts)Those three never believed the lies.
Those three lied to you. And a thousand people here told you so while they were lying to you.
So again, before any more lies spill out of those three mouths: THEYRE NOT FOOLS. THEYRE LIARS. DONT BELIEVE A GODDAM THING THEY SAY.
Manchin voted against the The Womens Health Protection Act after it passed the House.
The ONLY Democratic Senator to vote against it.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/joe-manchin-vote-against-codify-roe-wade-senate
NNadir
(33,527 posts)Bettie
(16,111 posts)the whole "I was lied to" charade is a wink and a nod to the right wing and particularly the Federalist Society.
They all knew the agenda. They all voted for it, willingly, knowing that the plan is to take civil rights from a HUGE swath of the citizenry of the United States. They agree with it and support it.