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HariSeldon

(455 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:55 PM Jun 2022

If Thomas wants to overturn Obergefell

California, New York, Oregon, and Washington (and any others that are willing -- Illinois, maybe?) should pass a change to their marriage laws so they don't recognize any marriages from states that don't recognize same-sex marriages.

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If Thomas wants to overturn Obergefell (Original Post) HariSeldon Jun 2022 OP
Hmmm...... Turbineguy Jun 2022 #1
You might want to check the Constitution for that rsdsharp Jun 2022 #2
And you think he doesn't want that part of Obergefell overturned? HariSeldon Jun 2022 #3
I didn't say he doesn't want to overturn Obergefell. rsdsharp Jun 2022 #4

Turbineguy

(37,346 posts)
1. Hmmm......
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:03 AM
Jun 2022

That would mean the if a couple were vacationing in California and a pregnancy resulted, the child would be illegitimate because life begins at conception.

This could get complicated.

Lawyers will get rich.

Them and Undertakers. They'll get rich too.

rsdsharp

(9,186 posts)
2. You might want to check the Constitution for that
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:08 AM
Jun 2022

“full faith and credit” thingy. I think you’ll find it in Article IV section 1.

HariSeldon

(455 posts)
3. And you think he doesn't want that part of Obergefell overturned?
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:46 AM
Jun 2022

I'm talking most specifically about the part of Obergefell holding that states must recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states. It would certainly be unjust for same-sex couples to be legally barred from getting married in some states, but the marriage law change I'm proposing is specifically to prevent any state from refusing to recognize same-sex marriage performed in a state legally allowing such, as the reasoning such a state would have to use would also support the law as I'm proposing it.

rsdsharp

(9,186 posts)
4. I didn't say he doesn't want to overturn Obergefell.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:00 PM
Jun 2022

I pointed out that what you are proposing is blatantly unconstitutional. There are exceptions for laws that would violate public policy of a state. That wouldn’t be applicable here.

Do the states you mention recognize hetero-marriage? Of course they do. Therefore it would be a violation of the full faith and credit clause for them to refuse to recognize hetero-marriages from other states.

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