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(5,969 posts)plimsoll
(1,670 posts)I don't think these folks are quite enlightened enough to get Sharia law. This is might makes right and then we'll mine sources to find stuff that agrees with us.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)The Supreme Court abortion ban violates Muslim religious freedom & like Jews they are preparing their lawsuits. The US Supreme Court has instituted a ruling that reflects only Christian values, under their false assumption & assertion that all of the so-called Founding Fathers were Christian & thus the Constitution is a Christianity based document.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)One doesn't say "halakha law."
Adding "law" to Sharia is both redundant and a deliberate way for the right to denigrate Islam.
Please don't emulate the right-wing bigots by echoing their ignorance.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)That's how they get poor white people to vote for them.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)Appalachia and much of the Midwest might not be screwing themselves election after election after election. Barrack Obama was 100% correct on this in 2008, but some just can't handle the truth, particularly in Appalachia and much of the Midwest.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)The NRA has created this fiction around liberals wanting to confiscate guns. I've never heard a politician propose such a thing. I worked with a guy (fanatically religious) who told me after Obama was elected that the government would show up at our doors any day to take our guns. I laughed at him. But he seriously believed it. A few years later I bumped into him. I couldn't resist asking him if the government had come for his guns yet. His entire demeanor changed. He said, any day it's going to happen.
You can't reason with anyone like that.
As an aside, he was (probably still is) a horrible person to work with. Did the bare minimum to get by and spent more time trying to cover his ass than actually adding value. Which is what I find to be the case about most of the deplorables (another thing Hillary was right about).
keithbvadu2
(36,829 posts)The only Prez in modern times to confiscate legally owned guns was Dubya after Katrina.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)But I don't think telling falsehoods is seen the same way in their subculture as it is for the rest of us. I grew up in conservative Christianity and there's a strong bias that goes something like this:
The more irrational a thing is that someone can make themselves sincerely believe, the more Christian they are. The closer to their shared god (named, "God" they are. The more perfect they are. It confers a higher notch on the social hierarchy, a true pulling one's self up by one's own bootstraps. All it takes is releasing that tight grip on reality. The point is to prove loyalty in as public a way as possible. That's what's really meant by "giving testament"; it's a loyalty test and it never ends.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)Drives me nuts. Same here on your last part. They seem to be in a perpetual state of outrage and pissyness that's rough on group moral. In my experience, I have to ride herd on guys like that more than anyone else. The "bootstraps", "I work for mine" crowd notoriously miss milestones and cause cost overruns. Go figure.
superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)They are too cowardly to blow themselves up to destroy their enemies.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)They manipulate and control others to make that sacrifice, usually young and impressionable followers. Just like the republican elite convinced their ignorant followers to perpetrate violence on the capital in an attempt to overthrow our democracy.
niyad
(113,370 posts)betsuni
(25,544 posts)plimsoll
(1,670 posts)So as the right gets more and more extreme the center needs to move further along their side. It's the Overton window in operation.
betsuni
(25,544 posts)Shipwack
(2,164 posts)plimsoll
(1,670 posts)Stuff that was unthinkable 50 years ago is now presented as popular by the press.
The whole notion of a "liberal activist" court was laughable, the majority of the Warren and Burger courts where appointed by Republicans. But the media felt obliged to present the rights radical viewpoints for "Balance" and opinion shifted to the right. The notion that politicians shift the Overton window is rightwing BS, they detect the window. The media has been pushing that window further right for 40 years.
betsuni
(25,544 posts)Very good book, exposes bullshit.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)that the press is inherently left leaning. Much of the media fell for that grossly incorrect reframing and it's now deeply lodged in how most media types think and view the world. They'll bend themselves into pretzels to prove, to no one really, that they're "fair and balanced." Throw in the profit motive and they've strayed very far from their actual, fucking job of reporting facts, truth and reality wherever that might lead. In that correct context, political left or right is meaningless. Facts have no bias.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)bdamomma
(63,883 posts)same thing the American Taliban. It's the truth.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Until the foetus has a soul. Of course the Taliban aren't progressive at all and their record of women's rights is absolutely appalling but the analogy to Daresh is more appropriate IMO.
dalton99a
(81,526 posts)bdamomma
(63,883 posts)picture. They got what they wanted for years. All that dark money was being peddled into the court system. Senator Whitehouse was correct.
And to hell for the American people.
twodogsbarking
(9,761 posts)Listen to Lincoln. He had the hat, ya know.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)They've abandoned the entire Enlightenment, the foundation of American government and politics. What matters to them is absolute belief in some dusty old interpretation of monotheistic myth, the people's wellbeing be damned.
I have problems with religion, even spirituality if it leads one away from evidence and reality, but traditional monotheism is, in my mind, the most vile thought ever conjured in the minds of humans in that regard. It's a pure power play framed in utterly ridiculous religious dogma. So, the OP is correct. There is scant difference from Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and Sam Alito, Clarence Thomas, Amy the Handmaid or the entire Christian reich. They spring from the same foul cesspool.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,359 posts)Bluethroughu
(5,172 posts)TeamProg
(6,146 posts)IronLionZion
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(6,146 posts)calimary
(81,323 posts)SledDriver
(2,059 posts)paleotn
(17,931 posts)until common perception automatically equates them both as exactly the same. Which they are.
musclecar6
(1,690 posts)Hopefully the center right will get their act together now unless they are religious nuts on the abortion issue and become center left. Obviously the conservatives to far right are the ones that are causing all this fucking trouble and thanks to the orange Nazi putting in those three wackos on the court, the country has it's hands full now.
Hotler
(11,428 posts)These fuckers are Dominionist. Pence and Barr are part of that cloth. The Christian Right is America's Taliban.
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Dominionism or Christian sharia ("Charia" is the belief that Christians should strive to create a totalitarian theocracy based around biblical law.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dominionism