As a married woman living in TX, I will no longer be having sex

[cags]

As I am not open to having any more children, the risk is too great.
My husband can kiss my ass

[mnhtnbb]

1. Tell him if he wants sex again, y'all have to move

to a state which recognizes the bodily autonomy of women.

[evemac]

2. I had hesitated to write about this

But that's what I've been thinking for a long time.

Women no longer have to have sex with men. We can find sexual pleasure other ways, and now we can even reproduce without the act itself. If we want to have a child, we can go to a sperm bank.

[samnsara]

22. that sentiment is even on my twitter handle...

[TheBlackAdder]

47. Soon owning an illegal firearm is a misdemeanor, owning a vibrator is a 2nd Degree Felony (2-20yrs)

[OMGWTF]

71. 100%

[iluvtennis]

108. Nutcase Clarence Thomas has hinted that In Vitro Fertilization(IVF) will be on his/right wingnuts

hit list.

Just madness.

====
Welcome to DU.

[Colbert]

124. How about Loving v. Virginia

... though I don't think Clarence will have any issues with Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967) - though it falls under the equal protection clause

[iluvtennis]

140. You got it -- Thomas also wants to go after interracial marriage as well as same sex marriage. BTW,

Thomas doesn't think he's Black/African American, so overturning Loving won't apply to him and Insurrectionist Ginny.

[Celerity]

163. Loving will be harder to overturn as it doesn't rely on the substantiative due

process and right to privacy constructs, but rather the equal protection clause.

[iluvtennis]

167. That's good news! n/t

[lindysalsagal]

3. I we were united, we could all quit sex altogether until the safe abortion national laws were passed

[samnsara]

24. battles have been won/halted by women taking this stand

[forgotmylogin]

42. There is a Greek comedy about this: Lysistrata

It is a comic account of a woman's extraordinary mission to end the Peloponnesian War between Greek city states by denying all the men of the land any sex, which was the only thing they truly and deeply desired. Lysistrata persuades the women of the warring cities to withhold sexual privileges from their husbands and lovers as a means of forcing the men to negotiate peace—a strategy, however, that inflames the battle between the sexes.

I can't speak for women, of course, and I know one of the pro-life arguments is "well then just don't have sex" - so a sex strike might seem to be playing to this. But it'd be hilarious if women just shut down the candy store altogether. You caught the car, Rover, what you gonna do with it now?

[calimary]

51. I love this idea!

But how many women could we recruit to go along with it?

[Jilly_in_VA]

64. And a recent movie

set in Chicago. Called "CHI-RAQ", it is an updated version. It's available on Amazon Prime and I urge y'all to watch it. Very well done.

[ChazInAz]

91. One of my favorite plays.

Worked on two productions of it: at the height of Vietnam and the unmitigated lunacy of Itaq/Afghanistan.
It never grows old.

[Traildogbob]

32. But Republican

Men are very rapie. So keep your AR Loaded. They are legal.

[rainin]

37. Republican women may learn the hard way to stop voting republican. n/t

[walkingman]

112. I hope so.

[Funtatlaguy]

33. How bout no more sex until after the midterms. If Dems win

both House and Senate, sex resumes.

[rainin]

38. She doesn't want a pregnancy. Nothing changes for her with a mid-term win n/t

[Dave says]

60. If I understand correctly

The decision yesterday says the Constitution does not protect a woman's right to bodily autonomy and privacy. That does not mean there can't be a federal law that guarantees a right to abortion. So winning more Senate and House seats is a positive step forward toward re-establishing these rights in the laws of the land.

Alternately, states can establish these rights, but given the abundance of right-wing controlled Republican states, more than half will outlaw abortions (13 had trigger laws that went into effect yesterday).

[spooky3]

79. That's my understanding, too. Nt

[Scrivener7]

168. But it still isn't safe until the law is passed. Winning more seats is nice. It is short of the

result that women need to be safe.

[spooky3]

77. Yes, but if enough Dems are elected, they can pass a statute

Codifying abortion rights. Currently they have too few votes.

[COL Mustard]

117. I think the Republicans have just handed over the

Keys to the kingdom, if enough people are truly angry enough to get out and vote in November.

[Wednesdays]

138. This SCOTUS can strike down that law, too.

Using the same arguments. Only a Constitutional Amendment can seal reproductive rights.

[Texin]

127. No. Allowing males with guns to have dominion over women means they can rape women at will.

Even if they have to fuck a corpse. This is going to start happening nationwide. You just hide and watch. There won't be any consequence for men who do this. People will just tssk tssk about it when juries deliver not guilty rulings after men are arrested, indicted and prosecuted for muder/rape.

[musette_sf]

157. +1

[ariadne0614]

4. I've been wondering about the impact of this ruling on women's attitude toward sex.

The abject terror of unwanted pregnancy + outrage over losing bodily autonomy will certainly kill the joy. I’m outraged on behalf of everyone of childbearing age, and grateful that those days are far behind me. It will be interesting to see how men respond to the unresponsive.

[Tadpole Raisin]

34. THIS SC would probably rule that women must submit to their husbands and

there is no rape in marriage. I am sure they would reference another ‘witches should be killed’ jurist from the 1600s, write the ruling in flowery language and give the remote possibility of other options for the women (which when brought to the SC they would disallow anyway).

Women are chattel to them.

[IbogaProject]

74. Alito did cite the originator of marital rape exception

A citation Alito used from the 17th century was the same guy who created the marital exception to rape. The law in NY that had that exception until recently.

[Texin]

166. I would bet that a whole lot of married and committed couples are having a sit down

vasectomy conference as I type this. Women who've had a child or children can still legally tell her doctor she wants a tubal ligation (it's very difficult for a young women to obtain this procedure because practitioners are reluctant to perform them because they fear a woman will later change her mind, but they'd better let a woman decide and quit infantilizing them as if they're 10). If one's doctor refuses, if it were me, I'd be shopping around for a new one. And, seriously, if a man who has had a child or children refuses to have a vasectomy - which can be (usually) reversed - a woman probably needs to consider the viability of the relationship she has with her husband/partner. I know I would. I would rather spend the rest of my life alone and celibate than with someone so selfish and cowardly that he would refuse to have a simple in-office doctor's procedure as opposed to a woman's need for a more invasive surgical procedure.

[Freddie]

5. Or until he gets snipped

[Victor_c3]

144. +1 n/t

[onethatcares]

6. as a person of the male gender,

I've wondered for years why you folks haven't been cutting men off for their attitudes for years.

My thoughts: If men got pregnant there'd be an abortion clinic on every street corner next to a bar and firearm store.

[wryter2000]

39. Mostly because my husband was a good person

No way would he be in favor of this crap. There are plenty of women on the wrong side of this issue and plenty of men on the right side.

Now, if he was going to vote for a republican, he could sleep on the couch.

[BonnieJW]

55. When I first got married,

my husband and his family were staunch repubs.
After being married for several years and having 3 daughters, my husband joined me in being an independent. I asked him about it and he said, "No man can love a woman and his daughters and be a republican."

I really miss that man.

[wryter2000]

66. Similar here

He voted for Reagan the first time. Later became an independent. He died a Democrat and at least as liberal as me. I could have trusted him to fill out my ballot.

[csziggy]

80. If my husband were to vote for a Republican he would not be sleeping in my house

He'd have to find somewhere else to live and learn to live on his Social Security check.

Fortunately, I don't have to worry about that - he is very liberal and has never voted for anything other than Democratic candidates. He's made me more liberal.

[walkingman]

7. All men should not be punished for the ignorant religious self-rightious dumbasses in

the backwards ass state. I completely understand where you are coming from but the ultimate answer is to change the minds of these digesting humans that think they have the right to tell others how to live and women could have a major role in doing so.

But come on....sex is good for you and don't destroy that degree on intimacy in your relationship.

[cags]

11. My husband voted for this, elections have consequences :)

[hay rick]

28. Erections have consequences :)

[housecat]

78. lol

[calimary]

158. OMG that's good! "Erections have consequences"!

Dayum! Is that a “hay rick original”?

Superb!

[emulatorloo]

36. Oh did not realize your spouse is a Trumper! Dump him asap.

[nini]

130. He's a trumper?

uh...


NOPE!

[AllyCat]

13. It sounds like she has made her decision.

I don’t think she needs a man to ‘splain it to her. The rest of us don’t either.

[orleans]

56. lol. no shit! & thanks. nt

[BlueAJ]

81. She is not punishing her husband

She is taking action to protect herself from an unwanted pregnancy.

Start thinking about her and not your own needs.

[Ms. Toad]

89. It's not about punishment.

It is about no longer being willing to risk the decades long risk of an accidental pregnancy. That risk exists, whether her husband is one of the guys guys or one of the bad ones.

[walkingman]

111. I understand and it pisses me off too. Hopefully Txass will not ban contraception but it wouldn't

surprise me. I know in the old days BC was expensive and my insurance wouldn't cover it for decades. These fundamentalists and religious zealots simply don't care about women - of course that is not a secret.

[whopis01]

160. A woman choosing to not have sex is her right

The idea that women should be willing to have sex so that men are not “punished” is incredibly misogynistic.

She even gave her reason as not wanting to risk getting pregnant.

Once again, it is her body, her right. Even if that is falling out of favor with so many people recently.

[walkingman]

162. If her husband doesn't support RvW then I can understand this....but

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if not it just seems so mean. How about a compromise.....more oral sex and start a abortion vacation fund - after all the states that allow abortion are some of the most desireable in nation.

I can see it now. Miss a period and we're on vacation in California.

[Scrivener7]

170. It's mean? Gosh. How awful. A pregnant woman is now an appliance controlled by the state.

It's time to be mean.

And if a woman chooses this, and her partner calls himself supportive, he needs to understand if she doesn't want to be an appliance controlled by the state.

Otherwise, his support is just lip service that goes only as far as his inconvenience.

[Scrivener7]

169. It's not about punishment. It's about the fact that sex is now dangerous for women.

Whether her partner is a good guy or not, it is still dangerous.

[halfulglas]

8. The fact is many pro life men "care" about it but it's not something they would fight for.

The big things and the little things tell you that your decisions aren't your own. They look at the statistics that more women die from childbirth than having abortions and agree but they don't feel it deep down. If someone like Serena Williams can come as close as she did to losing her life post partum - healthy, rich, smart - it can happen to anyone. People don't listen to you because you're a woman. And it's going to get a lot worse. Decisions are going to be questioned at every turn. Did you do something to cause this? In vitro? That's going to be the next thing to go. Lysistrata anyone?

[BlackSkimmer]

9. Birth control?

[cags]

12. Not 100%

[hay rick]

29. Not 100% effective.

Did that stop you from getting vaxxed and boosted?

[rainin]

40. Not the same. I think it's clear that an unwanted pregnancy is different. n/t

If she want to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, she should do everything in her power to prevent it. That, unfortunately, means no sex. We know that the only way to 100% avoid a pregnancy is abstinence. Sperm is off limits.

[hay rick]

76. Of course it's not the same.

My point is that our options in any decision in our life almost never come with a 100% guarantee, so that's not a reasonable standard. Other entries in the thread (husband is a Trumper...) create a stronger argument for her abstinence in marriage.

[rainin]

128. The thing is that less than 100% effective rate is tolerable because there is an option of last

resort...abortion. If the new calculation is that you could get pregnant, but you probably won't, and pregnancy is simply NOT an option, you see how the risk assessment will leave some women no choice, but to abstain. Even a small risk can be too great, when the consequence is severe.

[Disaffected]

137. She gets the tubes tied,

he gets them snipped. That's gotta be pretty close to 100%. If still in doubt use other measures as well(?).

Note: Am not trying to make any other points here.

[CanonRay]

14. Until they ban that too

[Ilsa]

16. And when contraception is illegal?

It's pretty difficult to convince a rapist to wear a condom.

[Totally Tunsie]

139. Makes "open carry" all the more appealing.

Women can "pack 'em" too!

[WhiskeyGrinder]

10. does he know

[Buckeyeblue]

15. After we were done having kids I got a vasectomy

At planned parenthood. It was $350. After a weekend on the couch with ice packs and beer, I was perfectly fine. And my wife didn't have to undergo major surgery. I don't know why more guys don't do this.

[ShazzieB]

26. Good for you! 👍

It took TWO extra unplanned kids to convince my backward ass, (now ex) brother in law to get himself snipped. At least he did finally do it.

[CaptainTruth]

68. +100

My wife & I have found intimacy to be much more enjoyable when there are no worries about unintended consequences.

I was happy to do it for her, so she would never have to worry about getting pregnant. To me, it was a gift I gave to someone I love.

[Botany]

17. "My husband can kiss my ass"

But can't that lead to sex? Just asking.

[Model35mech]

25. Lead to sex??? That IS sex.

At least when done correctly, according to my bosses friend's 2nd cousin once removed.

LOL

[emulatorloo]

70. It is sex. AFAIK nobody's gotten pregnant from having their ass kissed.

[orangecrush]

152. ...

[samnsara]

18. i hope all the women in texas follow suit!..there needs to be consequences..

[Colbert]

67. ALL the women in Texas??

You won't get ALL the women. While a majority of women are pro choice, there's a substantial minority who are not. Look at the polling regarding the recent Texas abortion ban, for instance:

The poll also identified a substantial gender gap. Most men expressed support for the law, with 53 percent in favor and 42 percent in opposition. Women, by contrast, generally opposed the law: 51 percent said they disapproved of the Texas abortion ban, and only 39 percent supported it.

39% support the law. Surprising, n'est pas?

[OnlinePoker]

75. 39% of women in Texas is about 5.8 million based on U.S. Census data.

That's a lot of people that support the ban (the number for men supporting it is about 7.8 million).

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/TX/SEX255220#SEX255220

[Colbert]

126. A sense of the struggle to come

Kind of gives you a sense of the struggle to come, doesn't it? The makeup of the court probably isn't going to change for the next 20 or 30 years. And they've pushed the resolution of this particular issue down to the states. The article I referenced shows the battlefield in Texas:

About 46 percent of adults support the Texas law, which bans abortions after six weeks of pregnancy and deputizes private citizens to enforce it through civil lawsuits. About the same amount — 47 percent of adults — oppose the law. The remaining 7 percent were undecided.

So, if you're in a blue state, you probably don't have much to be worried about. But if you're in a state like Texas or Wyoming, you might want to consider a move to someplace more consistent with your values.

Keep an eye on progressive Austin to see how many people vote with their feet.

[shelshaw]

19. Forgive me for not sharing this post with my wife

[rainin]

44. Are you planning to risk an unwanted pregnancy? If so, shame on you.

Men should be responsible, too. Is that asking too much?

[shelshaw]

101. Haha

Guess I should have used the sarcasm emoji in my previous post...
my bad

[rainin]

129. Whoops, I took you seriously. Your intention is now clearer.

I withdraw my sharp reply.

[shelshaw]

134. 😇

[oldsoftie]

100. HA! Lucky for me, my wife attacks me often. Her ex was basically a eunuch.

So I had such a LOW bar to get over I look like a superhero! And after several years its just like the first one.

[IronLionZion]

20. Maybe divorces will increase after this

along with dangerous home abortions. Gas prices are too high for many people to drive to their nearest blue state.

Condom and other contraceptives exist. Their sales should increase after this ruling. And vasectomies.

[Oppaloopa]

95. I bet ebay and ticktok will see abortion kits or just make up fake ones and fake pills

[NickB79]

21. I'd suggest planning the divorce already, to be safe

I'm not trying to be snarky; I'm serious. A lack of intimacy in a marriage is a serious stress test, and reversing Roe is a process that will take years.

I see a lot of marital strife in the future, across the entire nation.

[Sympthsical]

65. I'd be already filing

If I didn't sign up for a sexless marriage, and it unilaterally became one, ok. I respect your decision and autonomy, but I'm out.

It wouldn't even be a question.

Although, just reading through, sounds like there are a whole ton of other issues bubbling around in that stew, so . . .

[Texaswitchy]

87. What if birth control was illegal.

Would you expect you wife to risk her life.

No sex is that good.

[Sympthsical]

93. Everyone has the right to their own choices

For me, in a committed, long term partnership, sex has to be on the table.

If it is not, I will find someone who makes me happier and is compatible with my preferences in a relationship. You should find someone who is compatible with your choices.

When it comes to something like marriage, sex is a very foundational and basic choice in the relationship. If two people do not agree on it, the relationship ain't gonna be great.

If the other partner is fine with no sex, great. Enjoy the partnership.

[Texaswitchy]

99. What if birth control was illegal.

Complications from pregnancy is real.

Now if women cannot be treated for miscarriage or other medical issues that is asking a lot.

Death.

I think of women will be making some decisions.

[Sympthsical]

109. Everyone should make the best possible decisions for themselves

But no one is owed a relationship if they don't like the terms.

It's best that people find others who are compatible with their choices.

[avebury]

164. But would you be willing to get a vasectomy in order

to protect your wife from pregnancy?

[Sympthsical]

165. Kind of a non-issue with me

If I were in a heterosexual relationship where neither of us wanted kids, we'd be peas and carrots. I've never wanted children.

If I did want kids someday and the other person did not, it probably wouldn't be a great idea to get married to that person.

[mentalsolstice]

174. What if a disability or accident rendered one partner unable to have sex?

I’m married to my best friend. I absolutely adore him, and enjoy his company. Sex is one way to enjoy our relationship, but it ranks down the list of other ways we love being together! Sorry you feel the way you do, and sympathy to your partner or potential partners.

ETA: not that my post adds to the abortion debate. We’re wholeheartedly pro-choice and we’ve both benefited from being able to access safe and legal abortion.

[Sympthsical]

175. Thinking people who have different relationships are "lesser" is a nice look

No one needs sympathy. Everyone makes their choices. Respecting those choices would be nice.

I always think about how people expound endlessly on freedom of choice (in all things), and then immediately engage in the nasal slalom as soon as someone makes choices they don't like.

"People are free to do what they like and have the lives they like. But if they're not doing it the way I'd have them, they're assholes."

You're also holding up an incident that isn't in part of this conversation. A sudden disability isn't the same as making a choice. If someone can't have sex, that alters the conversation that needs to happen. If someone suddenly chooses not to, when the understanding was that sex was on the table, that's a different conversation. The would be a re-evaluation for me.

This is all assuming, of course, we're discussing monogamy. When couples can't have sex, there are often accommodations made for one or both partners. But intentionally choosing to withhold sex without a hall pass? I'd be out. That's making a choice for the other partner. That's attempting to impose your choice on them. It's a shitty play, and it's the sense I got from the original post.

And we shouldn't be in that business. We're the people who are supposed to like agency.

[mentalsolstice]

176. Truce?

Did the OP understand that sex was a primary requirement in her relationship? That it would be a weapon. I don’t know, did she know her husband was anti-abortion when they married. It’s not my place to judge without knowing more facts. There are a lot of disgusting posts in this thread....sex is an entitlement.

Yes, there are substitutes for sex if for some reason a partner is unable....as long as they agree to it. However, it should be negotiated. To just say “I’m out” is unfair.

As for the OP, she’s stated she’s done with having children, yet her husband is anti-abortion. I don’t know other aspects off their relationship and why they have stayed together thus far. Myself, I was friends with my husband for several months before we became romantically involved. So at that time we knew we had similar beliefs. And I chose him because we connected on so many levels, first and foremost. I knew I would enjoy his companionship no matter what life brought us....health, age, disability. Sex was a benefit, but it wasn’t a primary thing in our marriage.

[Midwestern Democrat]

104. I wouldn't put up with it either - any man in that situation would be fully justified to get a

divorce or openly have extra-marital affairs.

[Sympthsical]

106. People always kind of forget the second part of the equation

"Women don't owe men sex." And this is absolutely 100% correct and true. Irrefutably. Autonomy, choice, and consent are the bedrock of any romantic relationship.

Here's Part 2.

Men don't owe women a relationship.

If the agreed upon terms and understandings are broken, either partner has the right to walk away. I'd even go as far as to say they have the obligation. Two people in a miserable relationship have a way of making everyone else around them miserable. Particularly the children.

[Texaswitchy]

107. My Grandparents were married for about 75 years.

My Grandmother almost died after the second child .

No birth control back then.

They slept in separate beds.

No idea what my grandfather did after that.

But he died a month after my grandmother died.



They died in their 90's.

[Cracklin Charlie]

23. Lysistrata!

Alito can go back to the 13th century for his opinion. We’ll go to Ancient Greece for the solution!

[3catwoman3]

49. Excellent point!

[Hortensis]

27. Strikes me as an extreme reaction, but then I don't know your risks.

Hopefully your husband shares your degree of, if not exact, reaction, as is actually usually the case with couples. (That darling pair, Clarence and Ginni, comes to mind).

My married daughter and DIL will continue using contraception and making themselves and their husbands happy -- I'm sure. I don't have to ask.

Btw, presumably it doesn't make a difference in your situation, but AG Merrick Garland says the states cannot ban FDA-approved abortion pills and that the DoJ will do everything it can legally to protect women's rights under this new reality. Over half of abortions were already by pill (only over half?!), and beyond doubt that percentage is going to shoot up.

[SheltieLover]

88. I couldn't agree more!

Russian assets in our govt absolutely must go...to prison for life (at minimum)!

[SheltieLover]

148. Absofuckingloutely!

The only difference is that now, the terrorists hold judicial, congressional, & other govt offices!

[SheltieLover]

153. Agreed!

[Rebl2]

31. Tell him

to get a vasectomy or you could get a tubal ligation-if you can find a dr. to do that now.

[emulatorloo]

35. Your decision of course. But their are other sex acts besides intercourse, and intimacy is the glue

that helps keep marriages alive IMHO.

On Edit: Ah just saw he is a Trumper. If so, divorce might be a really good option.

[emulatorloo]

69. For one thing,Sex releases dopamine, which helps bond intimate partners. It is part of the picture

I agree trust and friendship are the basis of good relationships. Intimacy helps keep those things alive. Sexless marriages can destroy both partners.

That being said I would never get involved w a Trumper.

[Jedi Guy]

133. "Sexless marriages can destroy both partners."

I've had some experience with that and I concur it can put a significant amount of stress on the relationship. My wife had endometriosis in her early 20s and ended up having a double oophorectomy. She was receiving HRT when we first met and so had a normal libido that sometimes went into overdrive (not that I minded).

A few years after we got married, she decided to stop taking the hormones and her libido essentially vanished, seemingly overnight, resulting in a 7-year drought. Of course, without a sex drive intercourse can be very painful for a woman, so I never pushed the issue and certainly didn't make demands or throw down the gauntlet. Nevertheless, it was tough because a significant piece of our relationship was gone. She felt bad about it and accepted that I might seek fulfillment elsewhere, and she wouldn't have blamed me if I'd done so, but I never did.

Happily for both of us, she found a competent OB/GYN who helped her get back on the HRT and tweaked it appropriately, so things are back to normal now.

[TeamProg]

41. K&R Thanks for posting. n/t

[mcar]

43. He could have a vasectomy

[Texin]

45. I think a lot of women (not just married ones) are locking up their vaginas at this point.

If your spouse and other women's spouses divorce as a result, they're likely not going to be finding a whole slew of women - old or younger - willing to blithely spread their legs from now on without a ring, a wedding date and the pastor, officiator or priest at the ready. Of course, the men can just go full on psychopathic pirate, because the laws don't apply to them any longer.

The days of "casual sex" can be seen from one's rearview window henceforth.

I too live in Texas. Back when I was 45 and unmarried at the time to the man I'd later marry, I fell pregnant for the first time in my life after having several serious long term partners previously. I had an abortion because we'd discussed children and decided that we'd not be having them, primarily because my now husband is 12 years older than I am, and he had two adolescent boys (ages 11 and 12), and he didn't want to raise another one, and I was always ambivalent about having a kid of my own so WE made the choice to end the pregnancy. I don't regret it. And I never did. I feared at the age of 45 my own health would be at risk, and since I wasn't actually married at that time, I had no guarantees that the father would be in my life in the future. And since I was well into middle age, I felt a pregnancy would endanger my job in a very competitive firm. There was no way I would have been able to raise any child alone and/or jobless. Now every young girl, young woman or mature woman in Texas no longer has a choice. We've essentially become service animals. Chattel property.

Fuck those goddamned justices, fuck Abbott and all the rest of those legislators right out of the Handmaids' Tale to hell. May they burn eternally.

[leftyladyfrommo]

92. These guys are just like Trump. They just don't

know when they have gone too far. Did these idiots not
realize this affects every single woman in this country?


I think there are a lot of married women who would just as soon not have sex. They just seem to put up with it.
Now they have the perfect excuse to just quit.

That could be a pretty big group.

[rainin]

48. Men, who respect their wives, should get vasectomies NOW

if a pregnancy is unwanted. Birth control pills were sufficient because women knew they had a failsafe. The game has changed.

[Texin]

50. A lot of men should be making that choice now, because there will be consequences for them too.

We're about to see a whole landslide slew of paternity cases clogging up the courts from now on out.

[Lars39]

52. I've been asking men how many children they can support.

Some get a real startled look, like they’ve never thought about that aspect of the situation.

[rainin]

131. They better be ready for one new baby a year. It's amazing that they don't even think. n/t

[OMGWTF]

84. Our DIL asked our son to get one right after Shitler was "elected"

She told him that they are coming for our contraceptives. She was right.

[rainin]

132. I'll be having that conversation with my son this weekend. n/t

[AllaN01Bear]

53. sex strike .

[Texin]

125. This ruling guarantees that any man with a gun can FORCE rape/incest on a victim

and have no consequence. It punishes a woman for sex whether she participated willingly or through force.

[love_katz]

57. I stand in solidarity with you.

As you stated further down in the thread, he voted for this. The people on this thread who are arguing with you need to think about what that really means. 🤔 If I was in her shoes, I would make the same decision. Men are NOT entitled to sex from women, no matter how much they might believe that they are! And that goes double with brass knobs on it for any man who is arrogant enough to vote in favor of this horrible fanatical religious crap of ownership of women's bodies. And, I am beyond appalled at the lack of support and empathy for her decision. Do I need to say it again in all caps? MEN ARE NOT ENTITLED TO WOMEN'S Just AND THAT INCLUDES SEX! Just wow, that anyone would need to have that pointed out on a progressive message board.

[Beachnutt]

58. Tell him to get a vasectomy

[Maine Abu El Banat]

59. That's how it starts

Good for you. My wife and I were just discussing Investment in marital aids. We think the market will be booming.

[jaxexpat]

61. I, too, refuse sex with Texans. Solidarność"!

Don't even ask.

[oldsoftie]

103. What is it with (many) Texans? Why do they think THEIR state is that much better?

I know people who aren't even FROM Texas but after living there a few years even they got that way. "oh, Texas this Texas that". No you're no different than the rest of us! And Alaska is bigger......

[CaptainTruth]

62. I had a vasectomy years ago. I won't burden my wife with birth control.

I'm a man, I take responsibility for my own sperm.

[leftyladyfrommo]

86. Pretty soon only men with proof of a vasectomy

will be having sex.

[paleotn]

63. I thought of that last night.....

A lot of men in Jebusland are going to be cut off. Serves them right.

[Colbert]

85. Jebusland

In Jebusland, there tend to be two types of men: those who have been saved by Jebus, and those who have not. The men who have been saved by Jebus tend to be married to women who have been saved by Jebus - and those women are over-represented among the 39% of women who are anti-abortion (or at least supported the Texas abort ban). So I suspect if men are going to be cut off, it'll be the non-Jebus-saved ones that suffer that fate.

[sarisataka]

72. It sounds like

You are in a healthy relationship. Best of luck to you.

[lefthandedskyhook]

73. I would like to gouge alito's eyes out

Perhaps people like you can help to do so metaphorically when the US birth rate drops. Of course, facts do matter and this one would be big

[Emile]

82. Proof positive abortion is both a woman and a man issue.

[leftyladyfrommo]

83. That's the truth. Women should be afraid of having

sex. If something goes wrong with your pregnancy you are up shit creek. This affects married women maybe more than single women. Just having sex is dangerous.

[Texaswitchy]

94. It is now.

Death if complications happen.

Men could go somewhere for sex if needed.

Just think if BC becomes illegal.

How many men want large families.

[leftyladyfrommo]

110. These laws are so draconian the any problem in your

pregnancy could mean curtains for both the woman and the baby.

Am I wrong? Wasn't it not too long ago that Catholic hospitals saved the baby first and the woman second? Do they still do that?

[Texaswitchy]

113. That almost killed my mother.

My aunt moved her to another hospital.

Even then she almost died.

[leftyladyfrommo]

115. That's what I was thinking. Best not to go to a

Catholic Hospital for maternity stuff.

[Texaswitchy]

118. You are not kidding.

This was a D/C for miscarriage.

My Aunt saved my mothers life.

[Texaswitchy]

135. The Catholic Hospital is still there.

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The hospital I was born at.

[BlueAJ]

90. It is her choice

Interesting that it seems like many in this thread seem to suggest her choice is unreasonable and are offering ideas that would let the man have what he wants.

Seems like a woman's choice is shaky even among some who are "pro-choice".

[Loki Liesmith]

155. It's her choice

And his choice if he wants to stay with her. Fair deal all around.

[housecat]

96. At age 30 I gave birth and nearly died. My husband asked if he should get a vasectomy or

did I want a tubal ligation. We were about to fliip a coin when he asked if I ever wanted to get pregnant again. I said absolutely not, and then asked if he would want another child. He said no, but at least he would still have a choice. I got the ligation. We've been married for 51 years and glad we made that decision.

[birdographer]

120. Same here, almost

I never got pregnant but knew in my early 20's that I would never want children. My husband is the most indecisive person on the planet and had no opinion about whether he wanted kids or not. So it was a no-brainer to me that I would be the one to have the surgery (ligation)--no matter what, I never would want kids. We have been married 50 years and I have never regretted that, never had so much as a passing thought about parenthood. We were living in Canada at the time, I think it cost $25. No flak about it from the doctor.

[housecat]

123. Thanks. Good to hear

[llmart]

97. I support your decision.

Have sex with yourself. It's safer.

[Colbert]

98. ... with anyone assigned male at birth

[Loki Liesmith]

142. I presume the only male she's been having sex with

Is her husband.

[TBF]

105. your husband can get a vasectomy -

I am married & in Texas as well. When I was younger there was a medical issue (clotting) and I could no longer take birth control. My ob-gyn suggested vasectomy as the safest alternative so that's what we did. Talk to your doctors & they will give you recommendations for who is good in the area. Take care (and yes I share your anger as well)

[anamnua]

114. Think about that long and hard

In the long run we can’t risk being outbred by the Rethugs

[Blecht]

116. Sounds like somebody should reconsider her marriage

[Marcuse]

121. True dat! Whatever your husband kisses, spit don't make no babies.

[roamer65]

122. Ask him to get a vasectomy.

[diane in sf]

136. All women of fertile age should keep a supply of morning after pills on hand. Enough to hand

out to friends or dopey teens or others who lack impulse control.

[Loki Liesmith]

141. Find a good divorce lawyer.

[hatsoffforu]

143. double headed dildo ftw

[Raine]

145. Whatever you've been using so far must have worked

so why not continue with that.

[Eliot Rosewater]

146. I wish all Women would do this, no matter the political affiliation of the couple.

Shut it down, completely.

[Hahn_Bikey]

149. So many contraceptions for women and hardly any for men?

With all the discussion about contraceptives on this thread it makes you think about how this male dominated society even spends most efforts on so many ways on contraception for women rather than men. Hopefully this issue may help change that. Groups like malecontraceptive.org are trying their best but they have an uphill battle…

[herding cats]

154. If my other half were a Republican scum, I'd cut off all sex, too.

Honestly, I'd probably have sought out a divorce attorney before now, but I know everyone deals with things differently.

I support your choice and respect your right to make it.

[BrightKnight]

156. There will be a lot more frustrated incels.

Sexual inactivity is already at record high levels among young men. IDK, apparently women are hooking up with older Chads.

[Jspur]

159. As a man normally I would disagree with what you are doing

but since you have implied in an earlier post in this thread that your husband is a republican then I can't say I feel bad for him. I will say this you do risk your marriage ending if you don't give him sex but that's your choice but just don't' be surprised if he goes out and cheats on you. That's what a lot of men do when they can't get sex.

[Vinca]

161. Maybe that's what it will take - a sex strike. Make sure those old, white men crafting their

body-control laws understand a woman doesn't need a man for sexual gratification. Time to invest in sex toys.

[Kaleva]

172. Given that a plurality of white females voters vote R

I doubt a sex strike will work.

[VGNonly]

171. The sex door is closed,

Beat it.

[walkingman]

173. Funny!! 😝