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calguy

(5,315 posts)
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:24 AM Jun 2022

Every man who causes an unwanted pregnancy...

should be prosecuted and sent to prison for being irresponsible and not using a simple condom.
Married men should also be imprisoned for not getting a simple vasectomy and impregnating their wives.

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Every man who causes an unwanted pregnancy... (Original Post) calguy Jun 2022 OP
And they should be required to pay child support PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2022 #1
They are just going to make us call them MuseRider Jun 2022 #2
You're talking about people who think it is up to women to curtail the behavior of men. Solly Mack Jun 2022 #3
Of course they won't penalize the man. calguy Jun 2022 #10
No amount of $$ can compensate for the physical risk of childbearing Freddie Jun 2022 #4
YES! Child support is not compensating the woman for risking her health and life. Ziggysmom Jun 2022 #9
And have the weapon that ruined Jerry2144 Jun 2022 #5
lol -- that was one of my thoughts although i admit i orleans Jun 2022 #20
I am trying to be polite and civilized Jerry2144 Jun 2022 #22
:) Wondering if we might be coming for you someday? Hortensis Jun 2022 #6
Of course. calguy Jun 2022 #8
No method of birth control is 100% effective. Not hormone pills, IUDs, condoms, none. csziggy Jun 2022 #7
Thank God it was available to you. calguy Jun 2022 #12
God had nothing to do with it - a sane Supreme Court did csziggy Jun 2022 #14
I nearly died at 35 due to endometriosis and heavy bleeding. Was so anemic I couldn't work. I Ziggysmom Jun 2022 #13
I just never wanted children csziggy Jun 2022 #15
Crotch goblins lol Fullduplexxx Jun 2022 #16
Glad you found relief. I also have migraines that became intolerable with hormone therapy. Ziggysmom Jun 2022 #18
Yes, I worry about my nieces and my one grand niece. csziggy Jun 2022 #21
It's tough when most on SCOTUS and in the GOP view women as birthing vessels. TheBlackAdder Jun 2022 #11
🙄 Fullduplexxx Jun 2022 #17
Most men will use condoms responsibly as necessary, but some men: LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #19

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
1. And they should be required to pay child support
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:29 AM
Jun 2022

and if the woman doesn't want him to have access to the child, then he shouldn't. Just pay the child support.

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
3. You're talking about people who think it is up to women to curtail the behavior of men.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:31 AM
Jun 2022

They don't blame the man. They blame the woman.

She should have been dressed modestly. She should have stayed away from the bar. She should have not gone out at night. She should have done this and she should have done that. She encouraged the man. She asked for it. Her behavior is what is judged. Not his.

They're not going to penalize the man.











Freddie

(9,268 posts)
4. No amount of $$ can compensate for the physical risk of childbearing
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:32 AM
Jun 2022

Every man who causes an unwanted pregnancy should, in addition to monetary penalties, be forced to endure 9 months of vomiting and then push a watermelon out of his ass.

Ziggysmom

(3,409 posts)
9. YES! Child support is not compensating the woman for risking her health and life.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:37 AM
Jun 2022

If men got pregnant there would be an abortion clinic in every Walgreens.

orleans

(34,061 posts)
20. lol -- that was one of my thoughts although i admit i
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 03:28 PM
Jun 2022

thought it in a much more crass way--in four simple words

Jerry2144

(2,105 posts)
22. I am trying to be polite and civilized
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 03:59 PM
Jun 2022

When I think the punishment should be Whack that pee-pee off using a Weed Eater loaded with rusty 18 gage braided steel wire at 10,000 rpm.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. :) Wondering if we might be coming for you someday?
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jun 2022

General principles, after all. And there are more of us...

I'd think the immediate specter of provable paternity and child support should be scary enough.


csziggy

(34,136 posts)
7. No method of birth control is 100% effective. Not hormone pills, IUDs, condoms, none.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:36 AM
Jun 2022

Even tubal ligation and vasectomies can fail. The only sure way to to remove all the reproductive organs and few would go for that.

This is why abortion should be available and the choice made by a woman and her doctor - and her partner if the woman so chooses.

I'm saying this as a woman who has had an abortion (after getting pregnant while on birth control), a tubal, and a complete hysterectomy.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
14. God had nothing to do with it - a sane Supreme Court did
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:47 AM
Jun 2022

And a very good doctor who was willing to listen to a twenty four year old women who knew she never wanted children.

If I believed in a god, I'd blame a deity for the current SC decision. But it is christofascists that have done this, not a deity.

Ziggysmom

(3,409 posts)
13. I nearly died at 35 due to endometriosis and heavy bleeding. Was so anemic I couldn't work. I
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:45 AM
Jun 2022

had to fight for months to find a doctor willing to perform a hysterectomy. Why? They didn't want to prevent pregnancies I didn't want? I already had a child. More of this nightmare is in store for women. This is the war on women and I plan to fight.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
15. I just never wanted children
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:57 AM
Jun 2022

I watched an aunt getting pregnant pretty much every year she could. She had six successful pregnancies, and numerous miscarriages. She always had miserable pregnancies, so I never understood it - but her religion called for her to pop out as many crotch goblins as possible in her lifetime.

When my birth control failed, I shopped around for a doctor who would not only do the abortion, but also tie my tubes - it wasn't easy. Most of the doctors refused because I had no children and thought I was irrational for not wanting them. Then years later, when my out of control bleeding every month and the migraines I got from my hormones got too much - I was non-functional for about three weeks a month at that point - I was very lucky to have a very good gynecologist who did the hysterectomy. Once I gave up on the hormone patches he recommended, I stopped having migraines. I never asked what he found why I had so much bleeding - it was stopped so it didn't matter to me.

Ziggysmom

(3,409 posts)
18. Glad you found relief. I also have migraines that became intolerable with hormone therapy.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 03:13 PM
Jun 2022

I am afraid for young women today; glad my daughter got her tubal already & her husband had a vasectomy as well. She has polycystic kidney disease which could be passed onto a child and would also be made worse by a pregnancy. This SCOTUS bullcrap punishes responsible people!
This country was founded on pursuit of religious freedom. We are going back into the dark ages again losing our basic rights.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
21. Yes, I worry about my nieces and my one grand niece.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 03:52 PM
Jun 2022

The biggest problem I had with hormone therapy was the generics the drug plans kept forcing on me. The brand name one released it at a constant rate, the generics released a lot when first applied, then trickled off so every time I put a new patch on, I'd get a migraine that lasted until the hormone rate reduced.

Most of my nieces are done with their childbearing - but what would happen if they had an unintended pregnancy that threatened their lives? My grandniece is only a few years old. Hopefully by the time she grows up the country will have shifted back and this country will be sane again.

But then there are my nephews' wives - most of them I don't know at all so I wonder what their choices would be and how this will affect them.

LuckyCharms

(17,444 posts)
19. Most men will use condoms responsibly as necessary, but some men:
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 03:23 PM
Jun 2022

1) Won't use them because they "dull the sensation".

2) Will actually put one on at their partner's request, and then stealthily remove it during the act. Having sex in a darkened room? Then the woman may not even know this until after the act is completed.

These are the type of men who have no business having sex with someone else.

Never had an issue with condoms. In fact, there's been a few times in my life where my partner did not want me to use one, but I did anyway.

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