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To those who voted 3rd party ( or didnt vote) in 2016. It mattered.
She was right about everything.
It is still playing out, but imo, the greatest tragedy to ever befall our country was the installation of the Slobfather.
Yup, Im pissed.
Thunderbeast
(3,417 posts)This whole shitstorm is on YOU!
Sometimes, democracy demands you vote as adults...not children believing in fairy tales.
electric_blue68
(14,915 posts)mzmolly
(50,996 posts)Some of us told you so.
dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)Hekate
(90,716 posts)paleotn
(17,931 posts)The beginning of all this mess. 97K idiots in Florida voted for Nader. Gore lost Florida by 537 votes. If only 1/4 of them voted for Gore and the other 75% stayed home pouting, Gore would have won Florida easily. Only 1% of Nader voters would have pushed Gore well over Bush. It was insanity.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)Lets not forget the house hearings, the senate hearings, the fbi press conferences detailing investigations that went nowhere, and wikileaks dumping edited documents on a weekly basis.
It wasn't just a drip/drip process working against her; it was BANG-BANG-BOOM process working against her from all branches of gov't.
Then there was the media and the faux crisi of the week.
She wasn't a bad candidate, and it was a well run campaign. Name one dem pol that would have stood up better. Certainly not bernie.
apcalc
(4,465 posts)Hekate
(90,716 posts)mcar
(42,334 posts)No doubt about it.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)You have lots of company on this.
And I will never forget nor forgive the insults directed at me by the anti-Hillary forces, here at DU. Goddamn them to hell for the stunning amount of damage they did to this country.
mzmolly
(50,996 posts)for Nader. Life time appointments to the supreme court, matter for generations.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)Although, I also blame those who installed Reagan, who was responsible for tipping that particular Supreme Court to the point where it corruptly handed that election over to the loser. Had they allowed the Florida count to continue, Gore would have won--as every version of the recount showed he did.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Ever since my first vote for Jimmy Carter, a good and honest Democrat, I have voted Democratic.
Not usually for any particular agenda or policy other than I knew deep down that Republicans were dangerously phony-baloney and I would never fit into any of their hateful and regressive cliques.
Im pissed too.
demigoddess
(6,641 posts)Traildogbob
(8,760 posts)Of the Senemas and Tulsis. Some are plants in Dem clothing.
AllaN01Bear
(18,268 posts)Lil Liberal Laura
(228 posts)Maher also briefly referenced the 2016 Purity Police last night.
treestar
(82,383 posts)and stood the test of time!
Hekate
(90,716 posts)apcalc
(4,465 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)leftieNanner
(15,124 posts)In fact, he DID have it - Garland should be there now.
Then there are the shenanigans involved with the Kennedy "retirement".
Oh, lordy. This is awful.
Go see the Elvis movie. It will take your mind off this crap for a few hours. It's wonderful!
panader0
(25,816 posts)I believe there was some dirt on Kennedy's son, who was a loan exec with Deutches Bank,
and had had dealings with tfg. Kennedy was persuaded that if he retired, there be no investigation
into his son.
https://www.businessinsider.com/anthony-kennedy-son-loaned-president-trump-over-a-billion-dollars-2018-6
treestar
(82,383 posts)could have helped. 5-4 rather than 6-3, plus Kennedy may not have voted to overturn Roe.
Demsrule86
(68,595 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)I'm merely stating my opinion about why Kennedy retired early and quickly. I don't believe
that HRC would have used that kind of tactic on Kennedy.
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)Hillary Clinton did great Nationwide. She won. Sadly the electoral college nullified that.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/how-third-party-voters-influenced-election-2016-1479127224
But it is a lame argument to say that Stein AND Gary Johnson lost her the EC.
Very few scenarios had Hillary winning those old blue line rust belt states that swung towards Trump in 2016. Scenarios meaning every Stein voter would have had to vote for her and a huge percentage of Johnson voters would too. That just wasn't going to happen.
And I voted for Hillary Clinton. I also vote for her in the primary. I cried when she lost. But Jill Stein and Gary Johnson did not lose her those electrical college stakes that swung that should not have ever swung.
W_HAMILTON
(7,869 posts)It was a torrent of bullshit against Hillary from ALL sides and it was just enough to cause her to lose by less than 100k votes spread across three states. Yes, Jill Stein mattered. Yes, the Russian propaganda trolls that self-proclaimed """progressives""" were amplifying on social media mattered. Yes, Comey mattered. It all fucking mattered, and none of it would have made a difference had people that claim they are for progressive/liberal ideals simply turned out and fucking voted for Hillary.
apcalc
(4,465 posts)Stein to Clinton
.she would have won
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)apcalc
(4,465 posts)Stein to Clinton . She wins Wisconsin
Hassler
(3,379 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU
*NOTE - FUCK YOU to repuke voters goes without saying.....