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apcalc

(4,465 posts)
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:31 PM Jun 2022

A heart filled fuck you

To those who voted 3rd party ( or didn’t vote) in 2016. It mattered.

She was right about everything.

It is still playing out, but imo, the greatest tragedy to ever befall our country was the installation of the Slobfather.

Yup, I’m pissed.

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A heart filled fuck you (Original Post) apcalc Jun 2022 OP
Ditto to 2000 Nader voters Thunderbeast Jun 2022 #1
+100 apcalc Jun 2022 #3
+200 electric_blue68 Jun 2022 #9
YEP! mzmolly Jun 2022 #11
+1000 dixiechiken1 Jun 2022 #15
+2000 Hekate Jun 2022 #27
Amen!!! Absolutely!!! paleotn Jun 2022 #33
Indeed! nt Wounded Bear Jun 2022 #2
and they have the nerve to say she ran a bad campaign.... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #4
You said it! Agree 100%! apcalc Jun 2022 #6
And she still won the popular vote Hekate Jun 2022 #28
I will die being pissed about this mcar Jun 2022 #5
Damn right! apcalc Jun 2022 #7
Me too Chautauquas Jun 2022 #8
Welcome to the club! GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #17
As will I. Paladin Jun 2022 #19
.. and to those who voted in 2000 mzmolly Jun 2022 #10
Yes, that is a huge part of why we are where we are now. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #18
True. mzmolly Jun 2022 #22
I'm not burdened with guilt from my voting past. Baked Potato Jun 2022 #12
I always vote dem especially women dems. demigoddess Jun 2022 #13
Beware Traildogbob Jun 2022 #20
am now pernamantly lo level angry. have to watch my ticker though. AllaN01Bear Jun 2022 #14
From May, 2017 Lil Liberal Laura Jun 2022 #16
he can be an ass, but that one was spot on treestar Jun 2022 #23
That's amazing, and I don't even like Bil Maher Hekate Jun 2022 #29
I'm not a Maher fan either, but he was spot on here. apcalc Jun 2022 #32
it could have been Hillary picking that last 3 justices treestar Jun 2022 #21
Obama should have had the Gorsuch seat leftieNanner Jun 2022 #24
I'm not sure if Kennedy would have retired if Hillary was elected. panader0 Jun 2022 #25
yes, though even 2 treestar Jun 2022 #26
That is an excuse...we would be way better off then today. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #30
An excuse for what? Of course we would be way better off than today. panader0 Jun 2022 #31
Do you mean people that voted for Stein and Gary Johnson? JanMichael Jun 2022 #34
"No single raindrop thinks it's responsible for the flood." W_HAMILTON Jun 2022 #35
https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/michigan/ apcalc Jun 2022 #36
That was the closest but winning Michigan doesn't win the EC. JanMichael Jun 2022 #37
https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/wisconsin/ apcalc Jun 2022 #38
Susan Saranwrap must be thrilled by this decision. Hassler Jun 2022 #39
I will never stop saying FUCK YOU to those who voted 3rd party or didn't vote Skittles Jun 2022 #40
Damn right! apcalc Jun 2022 #41

Thunderbeast

(3,417 posts)
1. Ditto to 2000 Nader voters
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:37 PM
Jun 2022

This whole shitstorm is on YOU!

Sometimes, democracy demands you vote as adults...not children believing in fairy tales.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
33. Amen!!! Absolutely!!!
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:35 PM
Jun 2022

The beginning of all this mess. 97K idiots in Florida voted for Nader. Gore lost Florida by 537 votes. If only 1/4 of them voted for Gore and the other 75% stayed home pouting, Gore would have won Florida easily. Only 1% of Nader voters would have pushed Gore well over Bush. It was insanity.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
4. and they have the nerve to say she ran a bad campaign....
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:40 PM
Jun 2022

Lets not forget the house hearings, the senate hearings, the fbi press conferences detailing investigations that went nowhere, and wikileaks dumping edited documents on a weekly basis.

It wasn't just a drip/drip process working against her; it was BANG-BANG-BOOM process working against her from all branches of gov't.

Then there was the media and the faux crisi of the week.

She wasn't a bad candidate, and it was a well run campaign. Name one dem pol that would have stood up better. Certainly not bernie.

Paladin

(28,265 posts)
19. As will I.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 03:47 PM
Jun 2022

And I will never forget nor forgive the insults directed at me by the anti-Hillary forces, here at DU. Goddamn them to hell for the stunning amount of damage they did to this country.

mzmolly

(50,996 posts)
10. .. and to those who voted in 2000
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:51 PM
Jun 2022

for Nader. Life time appointments to the supreme court, matter for generations.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
18. Yes, that is a huge part of why we are where we are now.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 03:47 PM
Jun 2022

Although, I also blame those who installed Reagan, who was responsible for tipping that particular Supreme Court to the point where it corruptly handed that election over to the loser. Had they allowed the Florida count to continue, Gore would have won--as every version of the recount showed he did.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
12. I'm not burdened with guilt from my voting past.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:57 PM
Jun 2022

Ever since my first vote for Jimmy Carter, a good and honest Democrat, I have voted Democratic.

Not usually for any particular agenda or policy other than I knew deep down that Republicans were dangerously phony-baloney and I would never fit into any of their hateful and regressive cliques.

I’m pissed too.

leftieNanner

(15,124 posts)
24. Obama should have had the Gorsuch seat
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:06 PM
Jun 2022

In fact, he DID have it - Garland should be there now.

Then there are the shenanigans involved with the Kennedy "retirement".

Oh, lordy. This is awful.

Go see the Elvis movie. It will take your mind off this crap for a few hours. It's wonderful!

panader0

(25,816 posts)
25. I'm not sure if Kennedy would have retired if Hillary was elected.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:07 PM
Jun 2022

I believe there was some dirt on Kennedy's son, who was a loan exec with Deutches Bank,
and had had dealings with tfg. Kennedy was persuaded that if he retired, there be no investigation
into his son.
https://www.businessinsider.com/anthony-kennedy-son-loaned-president-trump-over-a-billion-dollars-2018-6

treestar

(82,383 posts)
26. yes, though even 2
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:08 PM
Jun 2022

could have helped. 5-4 rather than 6-3, plus Kennedy may not have voted to overturn Roe.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
31. An excuse for what? Of course we would be way better off than today.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:24 PM
Jun 2022

I'm merely stating my opinion about why Kennedy retired early and quickly. I don't believe
that HRC would have used that kind of tactic on Kennedy.

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
34. Do you mean people that voted for Stein and Gary Johnson?
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:42 PM
Jun 2022

Hillary Clinton did great Nationwide. She won. Sadly the electoral college nullified that.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/how-third-party-voters-influenced-election-2016-1479127224

But it is a lame argument to say that Stein AND Gary Johnson lost her the EC.

Very few scenarios had Hillary winning those old blue line rust belt states that swung towards Trump in 2016. Scenarios meaning every Stein voter would have had to vote for her and a huge percentage of Johnson voters would too. That just wasn't going to happen.

And I voted for Hillary Clinton. I also vote for her in the primary. I cried when she lost. But Jill Stein and Gary Johnson did not lose her those electrical college stakes that swung that should not have ever swung.

W_HAMILTON

(7,869 posts)
35. "No single raindrop thinks it's responsible for the flood."
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:46 PM
Jun 2022

It was a torrent of bullshit against Hillary from ALL sides and it was just enough to cause her to lose by less than 100k votes spread across three states. Yes, Jill Stein mattered. Yes, the Russian propaganda trolls that self-proclaimed """progressives""" were amplifying on social media mattered. Yes, Comey mattered. It all fucking mattered, and none of it would have made a difference had people that claim they are for progressive/liberal ideals simply turned out and fucking voted for Hillary.

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
36. https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/michigan/
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:48 PM
Jun 2022

Stein to Clinton….she would have won

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
38. https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/wisconsin/
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 05:18 PM
Jun 2022

Stein to Clinton…. She wins Wisconsin

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
40. I will never stop saying FUCK YOU to those who voted 3rd party or didn't vote
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 07:05 PM
Jun 2022

FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU

*NOTE - FUCK YOU to repuke voters goes without saying.....

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