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Lying in their confirmation hearings? I mean, theres many and all types of documentation available. If they can be impeached, Im sure the chances are infinitely low, but Im just wondering if this is possible.
LonePirate
(13,426 posts)The lying will continue as a result.
dchill
(38,505 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Demsrule86
(68,595 posts)and is then sent to the Senate...where a 2/3 majority is required for conviction. It has nothing to do with appetite.
LonePirate
(13,426 posts)The point of the impeachment is not the conviction. It's to put those liars on trial and let them and future justices know that they cannot lie without repercussions.
Polybius
(15,439 posts)It's hard to unite on such a big issue.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)They are allowed to change their minds on issues, which is what they will claim.
We know it's a lie, but there is no way to prove it short of a confession
LonePirate
(13,426 posts)The point is to signal to them and future justices that lying during the confirmation hearings is not something we will tolerate. They need to be put on trial if only for us to air their sins for everyone to see and to embarrass them.
Doing nothing only enables future lies.
jimfields33
(15,830 posts)Regardless of whether we like it or not, the are allowed to change their minds especially when the case is brought forth to them.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)But of course, it's 100% BULLSHIT that they changed their minds. Difficult to prove that, but anybody with a brain KNEW what side they were going to come down on.
jimfields33
(15,830 posts)LakeArenal
(28,823 posts)SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)drray23
(7,634 posts)majority in house to impeach, 2/3 in senate to convict.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)We couldn't even find 2/3 in the Senate when TFG literally called for and lead a mob into the capitol risking some of these people's lives. Do you really think we can get 2/3 of the senate to convict a SCJ for lying? Lying is common practice in republican circles.
drray23
(7,634 posts)i am just answering the question posting the requirements. Obviously we can not convict them. We will never get 2/3.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)It would have to be proven they were lying at the time.
As I've seen it explained, they could merely say that their beliefs have evolved once they got onto the court and studied the law further.
spooky3
(34,460 posts)Stating they agreed that Roe v Wade was precedent or settled law was not the same as saying they WOULD NOT overturn it.
So, imho, they were being intentionally misleading but had been coached to word their responses very carefully so that they couldnt be found guilty of outright lying.
dchill
(38,505 posts)madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)He was impeached but not convicted, because it was strictly a bullshit political moves by hypocritical republicans.
WiVoter
(909 posts)Ive read about Judge Samuel Chase who was impeached but not convicted in 1805. Interesting. It seems his nonconviction insulated Supreme Court judges from future impeachments,not totally however. Im going to do a little research and thinking on this. Not that it will change anything but it will help me to understand better.
https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/impeachment/impeachment-chase.htm
bucolic_frolic
(43,196 posts)Frasier Balzov
(2,655 posts)to get any of the gang of five to appear and answer questions.
Otherwise, they will probably just assert a separation of powers claim and stonewall.
unblock
(52,257 posts)in practice, there's no way to enforce the reasoning involved. if the house impeaches and the senate removes, then the justice loses their job, whatever the thought process of congress might have been.
in practice, we'll never get 67 senators for that.
diluting their vote by adding more seats to the supreme court is far more practical. even that would be tough without something like 55+ democratic senators.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)some of those republican justices seem much more practical.
unblock
(52,257 posts)And in any event, many women will suffer before this is fixed.
That said, I really hope they just killed the goose that laid the golden egg for them and democrats really start turning out in droves and we get a more functional majority in both houses and keep the White House.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)If we could replace 2 of Thomas (74), Alito (72), or Roberts (67), we could gain back the 5:4 advantage. Though, I know full well that they have the best healthcare available to them so chances are low.
But at the same time, getting 55 senate seat seems like an impossible task as well.
unblock
(52,257 posts)Which is why their strategy up until yesterday had been to kill roe by 1,000 cuts.
I really hope they end up ruing this day.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)I hope to see a big shift to democrat's advantage in the coming months with polling and on Nov. If we could gain seats despite having the presidency and high inflation (I know not Biden fault), then we know the anger to the SC is real and lasting.
And the only way for republicans to tempt down their far right policies is for them to lose seats nationwide for a few elections. I am with Pelosi that we need a functioning and strong republican party (that is reasonable and not crazy like they are now). Like it or not, we won't have democratic presidents forever. It just doesn't happen in a 2 party system. So if they can get back to a more moderate stance, it will be better for all of us.
Polybius
(15,439 posts)We'll see soon, I'm sure there will be plenty of post-Roe polling.
Mr.Bill
(24,303 posts)McConnell will not let Joe Biden put anybody on the court. I am absolutely certain of this.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)I am sure McTurtle will block any future democratic picks as he was so successful with it before. Actually, at this point, I think any other republican senate majority leader will probably do the same.
Mr.Bill
(24,303 posts)we should do the same thing.
onenote
(42,715 posts)But they aren't going to be impeached, so why not focus our energies on electing more Democrats.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Yes, they can.
Will they? No. We don't have the votes.
BlueCheeseAgain
(1,654 posts)They can be impeached for anything Congress wants to impeach them for. But you're right that the chances are non-existent. It would require 2/3 of the Senate, which obviously won't happen with 50 GOP senators.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)We do not have the votes.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)They gave a bunch of word salad about how they recognized precedent, but thats not the same thing as lying.
Amy Coney-Barrett was pretty specific about how it was precedent, but that it wasnt in the same category as other decisions that were super-precedent to use Feinsteins term.
Each of them, if interrogated under oath, will be able to reasonably and believably say that they fairly considered the facts of the case before them, and issued an opinion based upon reasonable constitutional principles.