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Fiendish Thingy

(15,624 posts)
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:07 PM Jun 2022

MSNBC: Bobby Engle was driver of vehicle Pence refused to get into

According to Carol Leonig, who was interviewed by Rachel. (As told to me by my wife)

I found this confusing, as Engle was also in the car with Trump, and assaulted by Trump, following the rally, just an hour earlier. So, did Engle leave Trump at the WH and go to the Capitol to pick up Pence?

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MSNBC: Bobby Engle was driver of vehicle Pence refused to get into (Original Post) Fiendish Thingy Jun 2022 OP
Subpoena time, don't you think? BlueGreenLady Jun 2022 #1
That would explain why pence wouldn't get in unblock Jun 2022 #2
And also probably knew, by then, that Engle had ignored Trump's orders and taken him to the WH. Mister Ed Jun 2022 #11
He is going to testify that the account gab13by13 Jun 2022 #3
Ornato told her the story AkFemDem Jun 2022 #4
Was Bobby Engel also the driver when Clemenza took Carlo for a ride? dem4decades Jun 2022 #5
I hope he brought the canolli Poiuyt Jun 2022 #6
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2022 #8
Engel was not the driver of TFG's vehicle blogslug Jun 2022 #7
Good question. There's a story in there somewhere. nt wiggs Jun 2022 #9
Engel is a Trump fluffer, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #10
I think the Committee is setting a trap. Nt Baked Potato Jun 2022 #12
Carol Leonnig has a good explanation as to why Pence did not trust the Secret Service LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #13

Mister Ed

(5,940 posts)
11. And also probably knew, by then, that Engle had ignored Trump's orders and taken him to the WH.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 11:28 PM
Jun 2022

That would give Pence every reason to expect that once he got in the car, he, like Trump, would have no say in where he was taken.

AkFemDem

(1,826 posts)
4. Ornato told her the story
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:18 PM
Jun 2022

This wasn’t Engles tale. It may have been true, it may have been a “oh yeah here’s one up” exaggeration of a true event, it may have been a fabrication to keep a pretty girl entertained. Who knows. Maybe we’ll find out soon.

blogslug

(38,002 posts)
7. Engel was not the driver of TFG's vehicle
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:27 PM
Jun 2022

I too was confused by that earlier today. Engel was in the back seat with TFG.

According to Ms. Hutchinson, Tony Ornato (WH Deputy Chief of staff) told her about the struggle in the SUV. Reportedly, the driver of the SUV was a different SS agent. TFG reached for the wheel. Engel grabbed TFG's arm away and TFG reached at Engel's "clavicle" in response.

Ms Hutchinson testified she was told this by Tony Ornato whiel in the same room with a shaken Bobby Engel.


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