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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAdam Schiff Just Said - "At This Time We See No Sign That DOJ Is Investigating The Former President"
With Lawrence on MSNBC.
intrepidity
(7,307 posts)Just ask the resident believers here.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)He doesn't think the reason DOJ hasn't indicted Meadows for refusing to appear, is because he's a Target of an investigation.
elleng
(130,974 posts)everyone sees or doesn't see her/his own 'signs.' And Committee members are cautious about crossing over to another branch, and reading it's 'mind.'
choie
(4,111 posts)is playing this close to the vest because he wants to maintain the appearance (and fact) that the Jan 6th committee isn't attempting to affect the DOJ's investigation?
elleng
(130,974 posts)iemanja
(53,035 posts)we can do it
(12,189 posts)NewHendoLib
(60,015 posts)our system.
mucifer
(23,550 posts)SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)He seemed disappointed more than anything. He's smart enough to know that grandstanding, and yelling and getting furious, won't make a bit of difference.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)The only possible explanation is that he's trying to make the other side think nothing is going on. There's really no benefit to him to say that to the public, especially Democrats who want something to happen.
It's discouraging to those who want something to be happening. If he thought something was, and didn't want to let TFG know, he could simply not comment on the subject, and say he knows nothing about what DOJ is doing.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Yet he just said a few minutes ago, and using the term "We," which I interpret to mean the committee, do not believe DOJ is investigating TFG.
My opinions are worthless. But when I hear Adam Schiff, who is on the 1/6 Committee, say that, I tend to believe he's not blowing smoke up my ass.
He did end it by saying that sometimes things change. Which I interpreted as meaning it's still possible that they will in the future.
iemanja
(53,035 posts)That he sees no evidence that Trump is under investigation.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,624 posts)iemanja
(53,035 posts)Funny how we know about countless DOJ investigations, while only the supposed investigated into Trump is so secret there has been no world of a grad jury or efforts to squash subpoenas.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,624 posts)Just because Trump hasnt been announced as a subject of an investigation doesnt mean its not happening.
DOJ has announced they are investigating January 6, as well as the fraudulent electors scheme, both of which involve a lot of people. Search warrants for Eastman and Clark have been executed, but they havent been announced as subjects/targets of an investigation either.
iemanja
(53,035 posts)Perhaps you should write him and set him straight.
MyMission
(1,850 posts)As you said, there is a grand jury. And these investigations are yielding many suspects including the hundreds arrested so far for the insurrection, and leading to new suspects and information.
They're building a case or cases against tfg and his coconspirators and enablers.
I found it interesting today how Hutchinson mentioned 3 groups surrounding tfg; 1 group encouraged, conspired and enabled, one group ignored and stayed silent, one group spoke out and or eventually left (fired/resigned). It would appear the first group conspired with tfg and each other. And most of them will take the fifth or won't testify. As the president, 45 appears to have committed and been involved with crimes we've never before seen in this country.
But he did not act alone.
DOJ is investigating the insurrection, and most roads are leading back to or through him.
Schiff was being truthful, and sly.
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agingdem
(7,850 posts)but he should kinda pull back from poking Garland...the DOJ doesn't leak..what we do know is the DOJ has multiple grand juries in place, issued subpoenas and warrants, conducted searches and seizures....the DOJ is not doing nothing...
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)I think this is what he truly believes. And he's not the kind of guy who would poke at Mr. Garland, unless he felt that Mr. Garland was not following through.
I'm also pretty sure Adam knows somewhat how DOJ works. He said nothing about there possibly being some Top Secret investigation going on, he said, "At Present Time, WE, See No Sign That They Are Investigating The Former President."
cloudboy07
(351 posts)edhopper
(33,587 posts)is Adam Schiff knows more about how the DOJ works than 99.999% of the posters here. But what he says has no effect on their surety that Garland is about to indict Trump.
Bobstandard
(1,312 posts)wishful thinking. And possibly a form of delusion.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Got it.
Bobstandard
(1,312 posts)I was agreeing with edHopper who made the comment I was replying to.
edhopper
(33,587 posts)it's that Schiff secretly knows it is happening and is lying to do a double whammy on Trump.
Bobstandard
(1,312 posts)I think hes telling the truth. That in all the committees interviews they havent come across witnesses saying theyve been in contact with DOJ investigators. If they had, that would be evidence of an investigation. I think his comment was intended to put the heat on Garland and, sadly, to temper our expectations.
edhopper
(33,587 posts)Beetwasher.
(2,977 posts)And not in a pejorative sense.
lamp_shade
(14,836 posts)the DOJ and the Committee are playing their cards very close to the chest. Imagine the reaction from the media if Schiff were to say "Yes I believe DOJ is investigating trump". BREAKING NEWS banners would be plastered all over the news channels and the pundits would have a field day spinning it to their liking. Best to keep DOJ activity under wraps.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)He's going beyond what's necessary by making an unsolicited statement, not that he's unaware of what's going on, but that he, and the other committee members, do not believe anything is going on, in terms of investigating TFG.
I believe him and the other committee members.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)which I think is the main point, but we all have opinions and can speculate nonstop here, there and everywhere...lol.
My curiosity (and daydream, I guess) has to do with the possibility that it IS choreographed. Adam Schiff doesn't strike me as the type to do that but we ARE dealing with unprecedented criminality and the attack of our very democracy, so he may have added tactics to his toolkit, just as other members of the committee may be doing.
Let the criminals think DOJ isn't doing anything by saying such things, which are quite nebulous and not definitive (he didn't say, "I know for a fact DOJ isn't investigating Trump and never will" , knowing the assholes will probably keep incriminating themselves. Then with each committee hearing they drop bombs and make the criminals realize they ARE under scrutiny, at least by the committee, and these hearings are being watched by DOJ. So, at the very least, the criminals then realize DOJ now has more tidbits to put conspiracy puzzle pieces together. I personally think DOJ has been doing this all along, a slow, tedious process working from the ground up as in many RICO cases. It is VERY unfortunate that some of the actions for justice that we eagerly anticipate likely won't happen in time for midterms.
But that's merely my opinion, just as anyone who replies to this saying DOJ ain't doing shit and won't has their own opinion.
No one knows. Mere speculation.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)A couple of weeks ago Schiff could have said the same thing about Clark and Eastman. I SEE no evidence. Now he has seen evidence Clark and Eastman are being investigation. He had no idea Clark and Eastman were being investigated until federal agents showed up.
Schiff is stating a fact that means nothing. Tomorrow, next week, next month, Schiff may SEE the evidence Trump is being investigated.
You can't investigate the people around Trump, without investigating Trump. It's absurd to believe other wise.
Bobstandard
(1,312 posts)I have the impression that Clark and Eastman were first in the news about the J6 committees interest in them, and then came the DOJ. I have the impression that the J6 Committees is forcing DOJs hand.
Talk me down.