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Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 11:51 PM Jun 2022

ENGEL'S TESTIMONY WAS PREVIOUSLY REPORTED


June 8, 2022

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/08/trump-raised-jan-6-capitol-appearance-secret-service-agent-select-panel-00038217

Engel told Jan. 6 select committee investigators that the two men discussed Trump’s desire to go to the Capitol and took different views on the topic. Engel noted that they went back to the White House instead of heading to Capitol Hill. The contents of Engel’s testimony have not been previously reported. Secret Service spokesperson Anthony Guglielmi declined to comment.
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ENGEL'S TESTIMONY WAS PREVIOUSLY REPORTED (Original Post) Effete Snob Jun 2022 OP
K&R MustLoveBeagles Jun 2022 #1
Does any really believe Cheney would have gone down JenniferJuniper Jun 2022 #2
Republicans should do everything possible to re elected her grantcart Jun 2022 #3
Unfortunately, The Only Chance She Has Of Winning, Is If A LOT Of Democrats Vote For Her In Primary SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #5
Wyoming has a "Sore Loser Law" WarGamer Jun 2022 #7
10 PM Is Don Lemon's Slot SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #8
You're right... I was just saying she's unemployed (temporarily) if she loses the Primary. WarGamer Jun 2022 #9
I agree. This is too important to slip up or go rouge Deuxcents Jun 2022 #4
Apparently some do believe just taht.. Cha Jun 2022 #13
I agree 100% duforsure Jun 2022 #14
+1, uponit7771 Jun 2022 #15
But ABC and NBC National News said (left impression) that she was lying Diablo del sol Jun 2022 #6
Of course they Did.. that's what the m$$$$m Cha Jun 2022 #11
That's because ABC and NBC Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #12
Cassidy reported what she was told by Tony Kaleva Jun 2022 #16
TY! Cha Jun 2022 #10
Good to know. mcar Jun 2022 #17
Why does the media allow witness testimony under oath in front of Congress for 3 hours Mr. Ected Jun 2022 #18
That doesn't say anything about lunging for the wheel or assault 867-5309. Jun 2022 #19
It's not word for word Effete Snob Jun 2022 #20
Engel and Ornato reportedly are willing to testify under oath 867-5309. Jun 2022 #21
Engel already has testified under oath Effete Snob Jun 2022 #22
But we don't know what Engels said about those details 867-5309. Jun 2022 #25
We do know the committee heard what he said, and then proceeded with Hutchinson Effete Snob Jun 2022 #27
Engel was and is a Qultist. He's measuring his words carefully Roland99 Jun 2022 #23
What words? Effete Snob Jun 2022 #24
Reports from the committee that his closed door testimony wasn't contradicting Roland99 Jun 2022 #26

JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
2. Does any really believe Cheney would have gone down
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 12:00 AM
Jun 2022

the wheel-grabbing, clavicle grasping route if there wasn't first-hand backup testimony?

Maybe not Engel as he's apparently a massive Trumpie, but from someone who can support what we heard today?

These guys are good.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
3. Republicans should do everything possible to re elected her
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 12:09 AM
Jun 2022

If she isn't in Congress she will be on prime time on a major news network burning them to the ground every night.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
5. Unfortunately, The Only Chance She Has Of Winning, Is If A LOT Of Democrats Vote For Her In Primary
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 12:31 AM
Jun 2022

Although she could run as an Independent, but that too would take A LOT of Democratic votes in November.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
8. 10 PM Is Don Lemon's Slot
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 12:40 AM
Jun 2022

And she doesn't have enough personality to host her own show.

Perhaps a guest commentator of some sort, but no way a host. Far too dull.

Deuxcents

(16,248 posts)
4. I agree. This is too important to slip up or go rouge
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 12:13 AM
Jun 2022

Besides, these hearings testimony/evidence is back up by all the committee members. Are some are lawyers. Having said that, I think they check n check again.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
13. Apparently some do believe just taht..
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 12:50 AM
Jun 2022

and not just repubs.

Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

Cha

(297,323 posts)
11. Of course they Did.. that's what the m$$$$m
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 12:48 AM
Jun 2022

Does. Click Bait!

Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
16. Cassidy reported what she was told by Tony
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 05:36 AM
Jun 2022

I've seen no report by reputable media that Cassidy claimed she witnessed the event..

mcar

(42,334 posts)
17. Good to know.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 04:31 PM
Jun 2022

I knew there was no way the J6 committee would have included anything they didn't know ahead of time was true.

Shame on the MSM for treating RW GOP unnamed sources as truth tellers.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
18. Why does the media allow witness testimony under oath in front of Congress for 3 hours
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 04:39 PM
Jun 2022

To be rebutted by a neanderthal with a cellphone, tapping out some words from the toilet, in real time with the actual proceeding?

This is why we can't have nice things.

Trump, march your ass to Washington and testify under oath in front of Congress and the American people. Betcha can't do it.

 

867-5309.

(1,189 posts)
19. That doesn't say anything about lunging for the wheel or assault
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 04:49 PM
Jun 2022

It does corroborate his wanting to go to the Capitol, though.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
20. It's not word for word
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 04:52 PM
Jun 2022

Imagine you are driving a car and your passenger is Donald Trump.

Now imagine that you and Trump have "different views" on where you should drive that car.

Are you familiar with the character of this man?

I do not believe that having a "different view" of where to drive the car was anything but dramatic.

Get real.
 

867-5309.

(1,189 posts)
21. Engel and Ornato reportedly are willing to testify under oath
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:09 AM
Jun 2022

he didn't lunge for the wheel or assualt anyone. We'll see if that comes to pass.

I just don't want these tabloid details to be disproven and take attention from the more critical aspects and undermine Hutchinson.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
22. Engel already has testified under oath
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:56 AM
Jun 2022

I guess that's what some aren't picking up.

Engels can "reportedly" say anything, but there no actual reports quoting him. There is a very euphemistic description of his testimony, but the actual testimony has not been released by the committee.

He already testified under oath and the committee has not released his testimony to the public.

Did you notice how the committee only recently made things available to DoJ, and that the hearing ended with a statement about witness intimidation?

That's because Engels, and others, have already testified about these details under oath.

It's so bizarre that, in response to pointing out that he already testified under oath, there are people who respond with Engels being "reportedly willing to testify under oath."

Again, with feeling, he ALREADY HAS testified under oath. The Committee has not released the details of that testimony so that he, and others who have been intimidated, can publicly pretend to have been loyal soldiers. It is extremely unlikely that his sworn testimony contradicts Hutchinson.

Would a diagram help?

 

867-5309.

(1,189 posts)
25. But we don't know what Engels said about those details
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:25 AM
Jun 2022

And it's being reported he will testify they are untrue as laid out by Hutchinson. Maybe this report is (hopefully) inaccurate, but if he does that's something of a problem.

Also keep in mind the report in the OP is based on a leak and we don't know the source.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
27. We do know the committee heard what he said, and then proceeded with Hutchinson
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:32 PM
Jun 2022

I haven't seen anyone provide a link to anything that Engel himself is saying now.

Just "reports' and "sources".

Even IF Engel were making public statements to that effect, the committee didn't make the point about witness intimidation for shits & giggles.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
23. Engel was and is a Qultist. He's measuring his words carefully
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:57 AM
Jun 2022

Or was that Ornato. Can’t keep the traitors’ names straight!

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
24. What words?
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:59 AM
Jun 2022

You have a quote of what he said?

The report is a euphemistic description of what he testified.

When you say "He's measuring his words carefully", can you point me in the direction of what, specifically, he said?

Because if you are referring to the description in the OP - those are not his words.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
26. Reports from the committee that his closed door testimony wasn't contradicting
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:21 PM
Jun 2022

And that Hutchison provided more details

So it sounded like Engel was measuring his words. Probably not telling the whole truth. Holding back details. Being vague

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