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Hobo

(757 posts)
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 12:38 AM Jun 2022

Trump White House attorney disputes Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony about handwritten note, per ABC

Former Trump White House lawyer Eric Herschmann is claiming that a handwritten note regarding a potential statement for then-President Donald Trump to release during the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol was written by him during a meeting at the White House that afternoon, and not by White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson, sources familiar with the matter tell ABC News.

Hobo

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Trump White House attorney disputes Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony about handwritten note, per ABC (Original Post) Hobo Jun 2022 OP
My reaction to seeing that note was intrepidity Jun 2022 #1
So you assume a witness under oath lied about it? yardwork Jun 2022 #16
My handwriting looks exactly like that obamanut2012 Jun 2022 #19
What does a guy's handwriting look like? MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #22
The question is, are they talking about the same thing? I don't recall Hutchinson saying she wrote JohnSJ Jun 2022 #2
She said under oath that it is her writing and she wrote it. yardwork Jun 2022 #17
not even the trumpster himself, but "sources familiar with the matter" fishwax Jun 2022 #25
They sure are going after her, aren't they? Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #3
Yup! Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #13
Does anyone have a photo of the note? Brother Buzz Jun 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author JohnSJ Jun 2022 #9
... demmiblue Jun 2022 #15
I believe the handwritten note. Nt Baked Potato Jun 2022 #5
She didn't say she wrote it. blm Jun 2022 #6
You are exactly right. I am viewing the recording of it, and she is explictly saying that she was JohnSJ Jun 2022 #10
FFS dweller Jun 2022 #7
Here is a link to the ABC report blogslug Jun 2022 #8
The note was something that Mark Meadows had dictated to her.. Princess Turandot Jun 2022 #11
it is vital for MAGAts MFM008 Jun 2022 #12
Committee needs to ask herschmann under oath if he dictated the note to Cassidy? Samrob Jun 2022 #14
I replayed my recording of that, and that is exact what she said JohnSJ Jun 2022 #18
If it was dictated to her, wouldn't that mean it was her handwriting? MichMan Jun 2022 #20
There are samples of Donald Trumps actual handwriting here indigovalley Jun 2022 #21
These fucking idiots just don't seem to grasp the stupidity of attacking Ms. Hutchinson, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #23
These multiple attacks on Hutchinson's testimony indicate . . . peggysue2 Jun 2022 #24
Could more than one person have written notes about this edhopper Jun 2022 #26
Red herring NT Patton French Jun 2022 #27
So what? TFG had the opportunity to be represented at the hearings and he declined. Hugin Jun 2022 #28

intrepidity

(7,307 posts)
1. My reaction to seeing that note was
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 12:41 AM
Jun 2022

That looks like a guy's handwriting. I know, sexist, but I was surprised when she claimed it was hers.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,399 posts)
22. What does a guy's handwriting look like?
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 09:33 AM
Jun 2022

My other driver, a woman, has the worse handwriting I've ever seen in my lifetime, but I get compliments on my handwriting on how easy it is to read.

Gender has absolutely zero to do with handwriting.

JohnSJ

(92,219 posts)
2. The question is, are they talking about the same thing? I don't recall Hutchinson saying she wrote
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 12:42 AM
Jun 2022

the note for trump to release on the January 6 attack. Did I miss it?

The note I thought I saw was just two lines, it didn't look like a statement to me

I am thinking the two line note was given to her, and she was told to cross out the word "criminal" in the note, which is probably what she did. I don't know, but it sure doesn't change a damn thing







yardwork

(61,650 posts)
17. She said under oath that it is her writing and she wrote it.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 07:51 AM
Jun 2022

I don't understand why we would believe a Trumpster who is not under oath, who said something to a reporter, supposedly. The Trumpsters lie.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
25. not even the trumpster himself, but "sources familiar with the matter"
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:29 AM
Jun 2022

this isn't even Herschman going on the record with a reporter, let alone testifying under oath. No reason to take any of this seriously until he's willing to put skin in the game

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
4. Does anyone have a photo of the note?
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 12:44 AM
Jun 2022

I saw it on the television, so it's around, but I can't find it now.

Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #4)

JohnSJ

(92,219 posts)
10. You are exactly right. I am viewing the recording of it, and she is explictly saying that she was
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 01:13 AM
Jun 2022

told to write the following note that was dictated to her, and to her knowledge it was never used.

"ANYONE WHO Entered the Capital without proper authority should leave immediately"

It looks to me that ABC is misrepresenting the whole thing


dweller

(23,641 posts)
7. FFS
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 12:57 AM
Jun 2022

Bring in the handwriting analysts …

It was the fishmonger in the lady’s wardrobe with the lipstick on his fingernail scrawling on the Micky D’s receipt …

Deflect, deflect …

😵‍💫




✌🏻

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
11. The note was something that Mark Meadows had dictated to her..
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 01:24 AM
Jun 2022

It seems very unlikely that she wouldn't know her own damn handwriting. She would be dissembling under oath, in front of millions of people, about something that could be checked to within a reasonable degree of accuracy.

Here's what she said:

(via NPR)
LIZ CHENEY: Now let's look at just one example of what some senior advisers to the president were urging. Ms. Hutchinson, could you look at the exhibit that we're showing on the screen now? Have you seen this note before?

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON: That's a note that I wrote at the direction of the chief of staff on January 6th, likely around 3:00.

LIZ CHENEY: And it's written on a chief of staff note card, but that's your handwriting, Ms. Hutchinson?

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON: That's my handwriting.

LIZ CHENEY: And why did you write this note?

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON: The chief of staff was in a meeting with Eric Hirschman and potentially Mr. Philbin, and they had rushed out of the office fairly quickly. Mark had handed me the note card with one of his pens, and sort of dictating a statement for the president to potentially put out.

LIZ CHENEY: And — no, I'm sorry. Go ahead.

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON: That's Ok. There are two phrases on there, one illegal and then one without proper authority. The illegal phrase was the one that Mr. Meadows had dictated to me. Mr. Herschmann had chimed in and said also put without legal authority. There should have been a slash between the two phrases. It was an — an or if the president had opted to put one of those statements out. Evidently he didn't. Later that afternoon, Mark came back from the Oval Dining Room and put the palm card on my desk with illegally crossed out, but said we didn't need to take further action on that statement.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
14. Committee needs to ask herschmann under oath if he dictated the note to Cassidy?
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 07:03 AM
Jun 2022

As I recall, she never claimed to be the originator of the message. She said it was dictated to her.

MichMan

(11,938 posts)
20. If it was dictated to her, wouldn't that mean it was her handwriting?
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 09:23 AM
Jun 2022

Pretty simple to have a forensic handwriting analysis done by a couple different experts.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,399 posts)
23. These fucking idiots just don't seem to grasp the stupidity of attacking Ms. Hutchinson,
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 09:38 AM
Jun 2022

the more they attack her, the more credibility they add to her testimony.

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
24. These multiple attacks on Hutchinson's testimony indicate . . .
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:21 AM
Jun 2022

How withering and truly damaging her comments were when it comes to Trump's knowledge of the plan, his intent and personal involvement, and really indicts the entire WH crew and inner circle who knew and did little to stop the insanity.

People died on J6. Scores of police officers were injured, some gravely so. The Capitol was defiled and our democracy and rule of law viciously attacked.

Serious criminal liability. For all of them. Any wonder why they're squirming and screeching, trying their best to tear Hutchinson down?

Not really.


edhopper

(33,587 posts)
26. Could more than one person have written notes about this
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:45 AM
Jun 2022

Seems that Hutchinson would not lie about her own hand writing.

Hugin

(33,164 posts)
28. So what? TFG had the opportunity to be represented at the hearings and he declined.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:51 AM
Jun 2022

No trying this in the court of public opinion, which is what they are trying to do with these missives.

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