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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,035 posts)
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 11:37 AM Jun 2022

Morning Joe offers profane advice to longtime 'buddy' Mark Meadows

"Hey, Mark, I've known you for a long time, buddy, you're in deep sh*t," Scarborough said. "You're in the middle of this conspiracy. You may want to get yourself a really, really good defense attorney. To quote Donald Trump, you may want to get one of those. Oh, wait, here's an idea, Mark. You can do something that you've refused to do for years now. You can show courage and you can tell the truth. Hey, Mark, Donald Trump won't protect you. He will throw you under the bus, he will stab you in the back, he will let you rot in jail. Defend the country or, well, get ready to pay a criminal defense attorney a lot of money."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/morning-joe-offers-profane-advice-to-longtime-buddy-mark-meadows/ar-AAYZOLL

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Morning Joe offers profane advice to longtime 'buddy' Mark Meadows (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 OP
K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2022 #1
"...get ready to pay a criminal defense attorney a lot of money." yonder Jun 2022 #2
wish I could rec a reply rurallib Jun 2022 #8
To me that was confirmed with that murderer OJ Simpson's 'dream team' canuckledragger Jun 2022 #14
it was proof that money trumps even race Skittles Jun 2022 #36
The most important reveal in Joe's diatribe and he says it as an aside, a jibe at vulnerability. jaxexpat Jun 2022 #24
What was profane? Srkdqltr Jun 2022 #3
Deep doo-doo. dchill Jun 2022 #7
Had the same thought....lol Nevilledog Jun 2022 #10
Meadows should've resigned as soon as he got wind of the upcoming... brush Jun 2022 #4
I think you mean Nov Dec '20, not '21 MiniMe Jun 2022 #5
Right. Will edit. brush Jun 2022 #6
Which is crazy they planned all this shit in 20, they were NO DOUBT attempting a coup where the uponit7771 Jun 2022 #35
But months afterward... 2naSalit Jun 2022 #19
And that has gotten him in grave need of a great lawyer... brush Jun 2022 #22
In that case... 2naSalit Jun 2022 #27
That 1m he got from trump's fake election defense fund is why... brush Jun 2022 #28
My sense is that Mark Meadows is very dumb. yardwork Jun 2022 #41
Be Like John Dean Martin Eden Jun 2022 #9
Anyone and Everyone DENVERPOPS Jun 2022 #11
I disagree with the concept of punishing someone not convicted of a crime. groundloop Jun 2022 #18
That's cool. As Opie so aptly said, "give 'em a fair trial and hang 'em." jaxexpat Jun 2022 #26
The catch DENVERPOPS Jun 2022 #31
That's so true. plimsoll Jun 2022 #39
"whether found guilty or not"? Well, THAT would certainly upend the country. oldsoftie Jun 2022 #25
the catch DENVERPOPS Jun 2022 #32
As mentioned before, look at OJ Simpson. Found not guilty. What do we do? oldsoftie Jun 2022 #37
OJ is a really poor example. plimsoll Jun 2022 #40
Didn't Meadows get a million dollars Grammy23 Jun 2022 #12
He got that cash Traildogbob Jun 2022 #20
Meadows may be talking to the DOJ but I doubt that he cares about J6 LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #13
Sigh. Holding my tongue. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #15
Meadows is in so deep he'll never cop a plea or help bust TFG. Mark is the Dark Money front man. Ford_Prefect Jun 2022 #16
That's probably why Chump wanted him for CoS FakeNoose Jun 2022 #17
Not holding my breath. nt oldsoftie Jun 2022 #21
"and Donald Trump strutting in like Benito Mussolini declaring himself the next president" LiberalLovinLug Jun 2022 #23
It's was/is always there. Just around the corner or the end of a blind alley. jaxexpat Jun 2022 #30
I caught that live this morning and my mouth dropped. Emile Jun 2022 #29
How much breath can you hold and for how long. Boomerproud Jun 2022 #34
OMG he said "shit"? The whole word? They didn't even bleep it out? Lil Liberal Laura Jun 2022 #33
Sounds like Solid Advice.. Cha Jun 2022 #38

yonder

(9,667 posts)
2. "...get ready to pay a criminal defense attorney a lot of money."
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 11:46 AM
Jun 2022

Perfectly describes our multi-tiered justice system: The more money one has, the more "justice" they can buy.

Here's hoping Meadows bumps into his limit.

canuckledragger

(1,642 posts)
14. To me that was confirmed with that murderer OJ Simpson's 'dream team'
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 01:38 PM
Jun 2022

Everything he did pointed to his guilt, but enough money made sure he was declared innocent.

jaxexpat

(6,833 posts)
24. The most important reveal in Joe's diatribe and he says it as an aside, a jibe at vulnerability.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 02:13 PM
Jun 2022

As if the fact that you're "REALLY GUILTY" is nullified by the disclaimer, "good thing you're REALLY WEALTHY". And if you're "in the club", people will whisper cruelly about your reduced state, now that you're broke. "He was always so cocksure. Now he'll see what it's like." "Yes, he will be remembered, a lesson to us all. Don't be stupid, HaHaHa."

Well, it's a good thing that 90% of the people in this country aren't trial judges or being "broke" would be only the first of some, current and past, Republican's worries.

Oh, Icharus. Arise and tell your tale again for the people have forgotten.

brush

(53,791 posts)
4. Meadows should've resigned as soon as he got wind of the upcoming...
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 11:58 AM
Jun 2022

coup attempt...probably in Nov. or Dec. '20. He didn't, he stayed on and went along with the most incompetent president ever, who came up with the "stop the steal" sham.

Guess the few extra paychecks they got while staying on was worth it, but the coup attempt was never going to work. Even if they had taken over the Capitol and stopped Pence's confirmation of EC votes, that temporary stoppage of the transition would never have held.

There are too many institutional safeguards for such a scheme to work. Come on. Donald effin trump thought that up. Since when did anything he came up with ever succeed?

So dumb.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
35. Which is crazy they planned all this shit in 20, they were NO DOUBT attempting a coup where the
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 03:04 PM
Jun 2022

... America's vice president gets murdered if he doesn't do Benedict Donald's bidding

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
19. But months afterward...
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 02:08 PM
Jun 2022

He identified himself as a member of the shadow cabinet and has been working with the asshole on his continued assault ever since.

brush

(53,791 posts)
22. And that has gotten him in grave need of a great lawyer...
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 02:11 PM
Jun 2022

and the payout of fees that goes with that.

brush

(53,791 posts)
28. That 1m he got from trump's fake election defense fund is why...
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 02:23 PM
Jun 2022

he suddenly stopped cooperating with the J6 committee.

I wouldn't wanna be him as he's gotta cough up that money now to lawyers, and hope he doesn't have to spend too long in prison.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
41. My sense is that Mark Meadows is very dumb.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:08 AM
Jun 2022

I don't think he is a bright man. I also think it's very possible that Trump has something over him. The behavior described by his aid sounds like he might have been depressed, he might have felt trapped in the middle of something he couldn't figure out how to get out of.

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
9. Be Like John Dean
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 12:52 PM
Jun 2022

He went to prison for a brief spell after Watergate, then went on to have a pretty good public life.

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
11. Anyone and Everyone
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 01:09 PM
Jun 2022

involved in any capacity in this mess, whether found guilty or not, whether pardoned or not,

should be stripped of all their assets except for a few hundred bucks and the clothes on their backs,

and immediately have their U.S. Citizenship and Passport taken away, and deported to Russia.

These MAGATS obviously want a PUTIN style tyranny government, let them have it......

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
18. I disagree with the concept of punishing someone not convicted of a crime.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 02:08 PM
Jun 2022

I just really really really want everyone involved in this attempted coup to be tried, convicted, and marched off to prison.

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
31. The catch
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 02:30 PM
Jun 2022

the catch-22 to what we are facing this time, is that if the jury is tainted by even ONE Trumphumper, they walk...........

While I agree with you in Principle, even people pardoned are still guilty and should be deported without their U.S. Citizenship or passport. Countless others that are shown to be directly involved will get off if it goes to criminal trial.........

Look at the two impeachments and how a biased "jury" freed him.

plimsoll

(1,670 posts)
39. That's so true.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:31 AM
Jun 2022

I’ve been saying this since Mulhuer. The “conservatives” have broken everything. We my have the institutional trappings, but jurors who decide based on what they think the law should be destroy any possibility of justice. The GOP unleashed their law free society 6 years ago, but the institutionalists (Democrats) keep it going because that is what the founding fathers intended.

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
32. the catch
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 02:31 PM
Jun 2022

the catch-22 to what we are facing this time, is that if the jury is tainted by even ONE Trumphumper, they walk...........

While I agree with you in Principle, even people pardoned are still guilty and should be deported without their U.S. Citizenship or passport. Countless others that are shown to be directly involved will get off if it goes to criminal trial.........

Look at the two impeachments and how a biased "jury" freed him.

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)
37. As mentioned before, look at OJ Simpson. Found not guilty. What do we do?
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 05:52 PM
Jun 2022

Yes he was found liable in a civil suit, but he's flaunted that. What would we do to him? Who decides?
If anyone in trumps mob is ever charged wouldnt the trial be in DC? Not a ton of trumpers in that jury pool

plimsoll

(1,670 posts)
40. OJ is a really poor example.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:44 AM
Jun 2022

The Simpson case is a traditional "Rich People don't live by our laws" situation. The more apt example was the Mulhuer occupation and subsequent trials. The prosecution failed to get convictions despite the defendants bragging about doing what they were charged with on national television.

That was different, that was a law free society. The refusal of a juror to convict because they decided that they don't agree with the law and therefore aren't going to assist in upholding it fundamentally breaks our legal system. We really don't have a means of correcting that, and in fact you could argue that our double jeopardy laws will be invoked to ensconce the rulings of faithless jurors.

Sorry OJ may be offensive, but it's run of the mill "laws are for the poor" offensive.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
12. Didn't Meadows get a million dollars
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 01:10 PM
Jun 2022

from campaign funds? Or something along those lines. Guess we know where he’ll be “investing” that moola. A good lawyer might sign on for that.

Was it worth it, Mark?

Traildogbob

(8,756 posts)
20. He got that cash
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 02:08 PM
Jun 2022

From the grifting campaign to get the cult to cough up cash for the Stop the Steal defense bucket. $250 million was what had been reported. Now it’s close to $459 million. Now they can pay 450 people to lie and cover up.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,321 posts)
13. Meadows may be talking to the DOJ but I doubt that he cares about J6
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 01:10 PM
Jun 2022

There is no way that Meadows is going to talk to the J6 committee given that Meadows is facing some serious criminal charges with the DOJ

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
16. Meadows is in so deep he'll never cop a plea or help bust TFG. Mark is the Dark Money front man.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 01:50 PM
Jun 2022

He was deep into the Dark Side in NC and knows all the players in GOP circles. He's not the DC Madam but he's every bit as connected to the folks behind the curtain.

I'm not predicting it but it won't surprise me if he gets disappeared or worse. If the present witnesses have been tangibly and genuinely threatened, and I take it that the threats are real, Mark already knows what could happen to him.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
17. That's probably why Chump wanted him for CoS
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 02:07 PM
Jun 2022

... Chump needs his fixers to be as dirty and jaded as he is, because those are the only ones he can trust. In other words, Joe Scarborough is wasting his time. Meadows sold his soul a long time ago.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
23. "and Donald Trump strutting in like Benito Mussolini declaring himself the next president"
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 02:12 PM
Jun 2022

A great way to describe what Trump was dreaming of. This is what he was thinking would happen. His minions would secure the Capital Building, and he'd follow once it was all clear and the police had been taken care of.

And the Swing States with R governors would then declare they were going to replace the electors because of some unseen fraud. And the new ones would simply reverse the EC numbers in his favor. And if it ever got to the SCOTUS, I'm sure he was counting on their loyalty to back him up.

Flynn and his brother and others in the military, many of whom were and are indoctrinated with either Evangelical or Trumpian cult immersion or both, would spring into action to steer them to hold fast, stand down. Until they could "prove" there was massive fraud.

Its scary how close it all was to happening.

jaxexpat

(6,833 posts)
30. It's was/is always there. Just around the corner or the end of a blind alley.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 02:24 PM
Jun 2022

It used to be too complex to be a realistic threat but these days anything, no matter how absurd, happens at the speed of light.

Emile

(22,790 posts)
29. I caught that live this morning and my mouth dropped.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 02:24 PM
Jun 2022

Hopefully Mark will do the right thing and tell the truth for the good of our democratic republic.

Lil Liberal Laura

(228 posts)
33. OMG he said "shit"? The whole word? They didn't even bleep it out?
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 02:32 PM
Jun 2022

I'd better get to church right now to cleanse the filth from my mind!!!

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