Hutchinson was dissappointed because Trump had done so much good for the country

[edhopper]

She said that yesterday.
Look, I applaud Hutchinson and Cheney for doing the right thing. The Lawlessness and Treason was too much for them.
But just remember they supported everything that Trump did while in office and would like to have seen it continue. We need people form the Administration to testify, but make no mistakes where their loyalty lies.
I get that it was brave of her to testify, but being honest and law abiding shouldn't be that high a bar, though for most of the modern GOP it is.

[madaboutharry]

1. She's a believer.

That was very clear.

[samnsara]

39. but that made her a much more credible witness...

[madaboutharry]

45. I agree.

Also, she got everyone’s respect when she said “I was watching the Capital get defaced…for a lie.

[Hortensis]

81. Yes. Almost all testimony has been from tRump people. Powerful. nt

[markie]

2. I really

want someone with this view to tell me specifically what good was done for the Country.... I am flummoxed by the insistence that there was any good done under the former

[Wingus Dingus]

13. Kidnapped Mexican and Guatemalan children and babies from their parents?

Arbitrarily banned people from Muslim countries from entering the US? Made the US weaker, meaner, more dysfunctional, more divided? I would like to know which of those she thought was "good".

[Texin]

34. Exactly. I'd like to hear her tell me specifically what TFG did that was "good".

[Laura PourMeADrink]

40. Saw where they asked two Trumpers that question

They hemmed and hawed and then said he made it better for military. And put god back in schools?
Oops on that one

But I think we all have to remember that when he boasts about his tax plan he never had one. The Rs kept waiting for his " beautiful" plan but never got it so had to take a "serve the rich" one off the shelf

[Ray Bruns]

62. He got Mexico to pay for his stupid wall. Wait, that's not it.

He passed a great healthcare plan. Not, that is not it either.

[rownesheck]

66. He made

openly being racist cool again!

[Meadowoak]

53. I think he meant Russia.

[PatSeg]

70. Yes, I can't recall Trump

doing much of anything for the country. He barely functioned as a president. It was four long years of The Trump Show.

Hutchinson's comment threw me off as she seems very bright and principled. What was this "good" she perceived?

[Mad_Machine76]

83. I never get that

Like, what?!

[onecaliberal]

3. So much good? Like a million dead people? Worst president and administration in history.

The bar is so fucking low but they’re lower. In a real admin. Someone like Ms Hutchinson, although articulate, wouldn’t have been anywhere near the Oval.

[NewJeffCT]

25. So many believe the BS

So often, Trump would say or tweet that the economy was the greatest ever. His minions would repeat that on the various news shows, and it was very very rarely challenged by the media, and even the Democrats that might be on with the Trump minion. The Trump economy had low unemployment that he inherited from Obama, mediocre GDP growth, job growth & wage growth BEFORE the pandemic, all the while adding $1 trillion/year to the national debt in supposedly the greatest economy ever.

I stopped watching so many news shows out of frustration about the economy. Too often it would go like this:

Host: Would you care to comment on (Trump's crazy statement or tweet that day)
MAGA rep: Greatest economy ever, who cares?
Dem rep: Sure, the economy is good, but...

and nobody hears an f-ing word after the "but..."

[aggiesal]

43. He had no job growth. ...

Once covid hit, about 22 million filed for unemployed.
He wanted the economy to open up as fast as possible, so that by
Nov. election, the numbers wouldn't look that bad.

By the time Biden took over, Pendejo45 was -6 million jobs
created from what it was when Obama handed him the keys,
the largest drop since the great depression.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/05/08/april-2020-jobs-report/

[NewJeffCT]

82. I understand that

but, if he was able to run again in 2024, he'll just say that it was awesome his 1st 3 years until the "China Virus" hit, vote for Trump again to make it awesome like his 1st 3 years, and it would rarely get challenged.

[aggiesal]

86. You're sounding too much like Pendejo45, it's scary. n/t

[RANDYWILDMAN]

44. His economy was bullshit

and it was dying before covid and and then PPE loans kept it bloated during covid and rightly so. What we are having now is a market correction for the crap the Trump administration did during their years. Can you imagine the blame if he had stayed in power?

[area51]

77. +1

The economy definitely sucked under Trump, even before Covid.

[Docreed2003]

4. Yeah when she recalled telling Meadows that Jim Jordan's floor speech was good

It was pretty clear where her political ideology lined up.

[milestogo]

5. And she worked for Steve Scalise

who was shot but doesn't think we need gun reform.

[Cheezoholic]

14. And she interned for Cancun n/t

[milestogo]

21. She must have a really strong stomach.

I can't imagine working for any of these people without being in a constant state of nausea.

[brush]

6. I like a list too of his so-called accomplishments as IMO, he makes...

W Bush look good as a president.

[Ohio Joe]

7. "but make no mistakes where their loyalty lies"

Exactly.

[DENVERPOPS]

41. No shit Ohio Joe.......

no shit. My thoughts are that any of them testifying are praying that they don't get charged and end up taking a fall for Trump.....
At some level, they know their hero threw them to the dogs to save his own ass. The blatant fact that he didn't give them all a pardon proves it........He could have easily given a blanket Pardon to any and all, but he had Jared "arrange" pardons based on a certain amount of money they coughed up under the table. The Trump Cabal never missed a chance to grift.........

In another post I said:

Anyone and Everyone,

involved in any capacity in this mess, whether found guilty or not, whether pardoned or not,

should be stripped of all their assets except for a few hundred bucks and the clothes on their backs,

and immediately have their U.S. Citizenship and Passport taken away, and deported to Russia.

The entire cabal of MAGATS obviously want a PUTIN style tyranny government, let them have it.....

[Novara]

8. That didn't escape my notice

It shows you how low our expectations are when such a huge deal is made of any republican who puts the country before their fealty to the orange motherfucker.

Doing what's best for the country should be the fucking default. They're "public servants."

Well, most of them don't know the meaning of that.

[oswaldactedalone]

9. I can't comprehend people like her

and Cheney. Being Republican and having ethics are mutually exclusive.

[RussBLib]

28. what makes a young attractive female vote GOP?

I don't get it either. About all I can come up with is either religion (which poisons everything) or her parents were hooked on Fox News and she watched it by default.

[CottonBear]

60. Women vote GOP for white Xtian privilege/supremacy & power & for tax cuts. NT

[Maru Kitteh]

71. Lil confused about what attractive

has to do with anything. Why is that important?

[AkFemDem]

10. Great! Makes her even more credible

That she can’t be dismissed as a liberal democrat with a political agenda.

[CrispyQ]

22. +1 -nt

[KentuckyWoman]

32. Nearly all of the public testimony is Republican

It is primarily Republicans asking other Republicans about corruption among Republicans.

The Democrats are mostly just sitting back and letting the Republicans figure out what we all knew in 1980 something. That guy is a liar, a cheat, and a scoundrel. He is corrupt all the way down to the empty pit where a soul would normally be.

[musclecar6]

38. Very Well Put

A person with not a single redeeming quality. Not one. Here’s a guy, besides all his numerous awful evil incredible fuckups, who mounted an insurrection against our government. When all the ducks are in a row, and hopefully sooner rather than later, he needs to be arrested, prosecuted and put in prison after hopefully conviction. The world needs to know, no one is above the law in our country.

[Justice matters.]

58. Well said. The world also needs to know a strong democracy can resist and jail fascist criminals.

A bunch of authoritarian fascists lacking the will to educate themselves properly and behave with a conscience, with empathy, courage and fairness. Not looking to rule to grift at the expense of the rest of their people.

Respect the rule of law and serve the people who pay their salary. Not live like mafia mobs!

[newdayneeded]

50. YouTube comments

Almost all repub replies imply it's a one sided affair with no time for their side. They always forget, almost all witnesses (I think all) have been repubs!

[Lonestarblue]

69. They mean no time for them to tell their lies. They don't have a side other than insurrection.

Their side is a crime they committed.

[AkFemDem]

75. Yes, this has been brilliantly done.

[DBoon]

76. even Mad Magazine was onto Trump long ago

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[obamanut2012]

48. Yup, people are leaving off what she said next

That as an American, she felt disgust about the unamerican attack on democracy, and by extension, disgust for TRump.

Folks aren't getting what she did.

[Maraya1969]

11. I'd like to know how they live with themselves while supporting his immigration

policy of taking children away from their parents at the border to discourage them from coming here?

If anyone gets the chance please ask her. Please ask any supporter of tfg

[barbaraann]

12. Tyranny by a minority (GOP rule) always requires violence at some point. n/t

[TexLaProgressive]

15. That's what makes her testimony so powerful

All but the election workers are trumpists this is all to the good.

[DENVERPOPS]

46. Powerful

if 70 million Trumphumpers cared to even watch the hearings. Highly dubious of that happening.
They are still glued to Fox News to tell them what to think of this so called left wing witch hunt......

Many of them are spending their time, planning all the destructive things they are going to do to Liberal Politicians when they CORRUPTLY establish a majority in the U.S. Senate and U.S. Houses in the coming 2022 elections this fall.......

First thing, they will impeach Biden and his entire administration.........

[TheRealNorth]

16. My response

[sop]

17. Most of the Republicans testifying before the 1/6 Committee would vote for Trump again.

These folks are coming clean to avoid going to prison with Trump. Still, we should be happy they're doing the right thing now.

[edhopper]

19. Bill Barr

said as much

[ProfessorGAC]

35. So Did That Guy From AZ

Rusty Boyers IIRC.

[SoCalDavidS]

18. I Think It's Both Sad & Funny

Someone like her is willing to stand by and in some cases, praise the people who will now trash her, try to destroy her reputation, and prevent her from finding prominent employment the rest of her life.

I'd bet that after all she's been through, she would support and vote for TFG again, if given the opportunity. Same as others who have already testified.

THANK YOU SIR, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER?

[Mr. Evil]

63. I just had to.

[agingdem]

20. 5 seconds of conscience does not deep six

four years of "so much good for the country" like separating families, babies in cages, the muslim ban, the wall, shit hole countries, overt racism, Charlottesville, fine people on both sides, sexual assault, Stormy Daniels, Russian election interference, sucking up to despots, Ukraine coercion/extortion, abandoning global pacts/treaties, tariffs, ignoring the pandemic, disappearing 300,000 covid deaths, replacing career scientists/doctors with quacks and hacks, fraud, bombing Mexico, buying Greenland, disparaging fallen soldiers, 30,500 lies, nepotism, sedition, coup, fake electors..but inciting a riot..a bridge too far..

Liz and Cassidy..not exactly studies in heroism, but we'll take what we can get

[jaxexpat]

57. It's hard, I know. People with a functionally inquisitive mind and a conscience find it impossible

to empathize with these people because it's all just so absurd. Their reality, their reaction and response to the atrocities, a portion of which you have done a great job enumerating, is beyond our comprehension.

But here's my try. Those horrible, wasteful, demeaning and soulless "accomplishments" the ditz raved about are, in their minds, great and necessary works but and as importantly, they are works which the Democrats have heretofore denied them, thus threatening the best of civilization. In their minds the radicality and ruthlessness they used for implementation were necessary because their purpose is so important, so God-stamped. They feel that their righteous remedy would not have been so disruptive had the Democrats simply not left some important thing undone as long as they did, allowing the "problem" to grow out of proportion. We are so frustrating for them. Of course, we usually feel that they're hallucinating issues that don't exist and doing so at the cost of perpetuating issues that do. It also doesn't escape our notice that their solution to every problem involves assisting rich people at the expense of poor people, management at the expense of labor, the strong at the expense of the weak. It's a pattern which reveals a peculiar world view and essentially a warped and unavoidably violent take on reality.

[Raven123]

23. It's good to step back and remind oneself what preceded breaking point for these folks

Personally I wonder how many would have been so “heroic “ had TFG succeeded.

[llashram]

24. truth

not one mention for 4 long years. He(TPOSFG) causes a coup attempt and everyone including Cheney and Hutchinson is just trying to look law-abiding. 4 long years, just rumour and innuendo. The mafia boss still has the majority terrified. The d.trump brown shirts are still "standing back and standing by". A goddanm sexual predator, con man, a family of grifters all known before his election and somehow this POS is still inserted into the office of prezdent...I have lost a lot of respect for the office and politics in this country. All this is banana republic bullshit. I really don't see Amerika's poisition in the world regaining any semblance of pre-trump standing.

President Obama gave me hope that Amerikkka had found a path out of the sordid genocidal past of this country. Slavery had poisoned forever the psyche of white and POC I thought. Then after President Obama a seasoned knowledgable politician was trashed by the COMPLETE mainstream media, idiots by the millions believed it and gave d.trump enough votes to somehow seem legit.

BAM!!!What a POS we ended up with. I will remain suspicious of his victory to my dying day. Especially since his BFF had huge hacking farms for d.trump working to skew the vote. And when he met with his BFF and would not let one person in that room I knew the game was afoot. He came out of that meeting looking like Pukins beaten dog.

[Progressive dog]

26. Hutchinson's testimony is not helping Trump or his gang.

I really don't need to disparage her because she has very different political views than I do.
This is about protecting our rights and our democracy. She showed where here loyalty lies and it isn't with the insurrectionists.

[emulatorloo]

64. Agreed. DU these days seems incapable of pragmatism or stategic thinking.

And clearly Hutchinson was horrified when Trump demanded the metal detectors come down and made it clear he didn’t care if his mob was armed and dangerous.

[Boomerproud]

78. She drank the kool aid her whole adult life but you accuse

DUers of lack of pragmatism.

[GopherGal]

27. Agreed.

Any "heroism" is only relative to the cowardice and hypocrisy of her former colleagues/bosses

[link:https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/06/cassidy-hutchinsons-testimony-was-15-months-too-late/|]

subhead: An honest account of what transpired on January 6 and the days leading up to it would have been pretty helpful during Trump’s impeachment.

It wasn’t exactly a mystery that Donald Trump was a vindictive goon who encouraged acts of violence among his supporters and treated everyone in his orbit like trash. Those were known knowns long before January 6th. They were known knowns long before November 8th, 2016 too. Lots of people were very clear about this. And she stuck with it over the course of a slow-motion coup that was quite easy to see happening from the outside. It was apparently even easier to see that happening from the inside. Providing an honest account of those days is the minimum threshold of accountability the public is owed after all this.

[JanLip]

29. What good has Trump done for anyone but himself?

This is something I’ve ask myself time and again and every time I hear Republicans tell about all the good things Trump has done I am totally baffled. I want any of his minions to tell me what exactly he did. I am at a lose. I have noticed people who are Republican (even with my friends and family) don’t care about anyone but themselves. And you can’t reason with them and they are so holier than thou. It just hurts to see how blind they are to the truth. All of a sudden complete silence as to what has come out from the hearings. Oh they don’t watch it or it’s boring. Thank goodness I can come here to DU and find comfort. Thank all of you for giving me this comforting place. 🤗🤗

[MarineCombatEngineer]

30. Who gives a fuck?

All I care about is how she's adding nails to the coffin of the Mango Menace and his criminal cabal, I don't care what someone's political stripe is, she's doing the nation a great service and I applaud her for her courage despite the security risk to herself and her family.

I would never vote for her, but I will enthusiastically take her help, or anybody's help, in bringing down the most criminal "president" in the history of our nation.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend..........temporarily.

[emulatorloo]

65. Thank you for clearly expressing whats on my mind.

[HAB911]

31. The enemy of my enemy is my friend

TEMPORARILY

Other than that, just another cult member

[OrlandoDem2]

33. 2016-2020 exposed a lot of supposedly educated people who for some reason like Trump.

Scares the shit out of me now many people who you’d think are smart bought into his BS.

[ancianita]

47. Education is no guarantee of morality when it comes to money and advancement.

What education provides are tools that can either be used to give or take, feed or kill.
Those tools can be weaponized for calculated, win-at-any-cost personal gain.
Even educated people can mistake rich people for educated people.
.

[aggiesal]

36. I had a MAGA (remember i wrote HAD) friend that said ...

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Pendejo45 was the hardest working pResident in her lifetime.

[gab13by13]

37. I will only say this once,

The #1 narrative that the Magats have right now is trashing Ms. Hutchinson. Explain to me what good a thread like this does to make Donald trump and his inner circle accountable for attempting to destroy our democracy?

I doubt that the people posting negative comments here ever took on powerful people. I got a little taste of it in my little borough of 2,000 people. I had many sleepless nights, and yes, there were even death threats involved.

Ms. Hutchinson is the bravest person in America, I can't imagine the pressure she had thrown at her.

Ms. Hutchinson is my hero, too bad other Republicans don't have her courage.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

61. Correct.

That her political ideology aligns in-part (or wholly) with the Trumpist agenda only makes her stand against his attempted coup all the more heroic.

It is easy to stand against one's opponents.

[emulatorloo]

67. +1

[Just_Vote_Dem]

84. Great post, thanks

[FakeNoose]

42. She was still in college when Chump got elected

How many college kids do you know that have their political priorities straight at that age? They're more worried about what bar they're going to on Friday night, rather than who's running the country.

Now that Cassidy has seen the inside of the Chump administration, I'm sure she'll never get fooled again.

[obamanut2012]

49. Exactly -- she is 25 years old now

I voted GOP in college because my Dad did.

[Meadowoak]

51. Trump did so much good for the country, begs the question which country?

Russia?

[Joinfortmill]

52. Yeah, well. Heroes come in all stripes.

[shanti]

54. She's not alone

I had a cousin who had a terminal illness during Chump's reign (now deceased). Hardcore Republican who looooved him because he "gave them everything they wanted". When pressed on all of the good he'd done, she couldn't give me an answer, just a smug look. Mindboggling.

[867-5309.]

55. Liz Cheney believes in waterboarding

Did you expect Meadows to have a liberal?

[LiberalLovinLug]

56. "Trump had done so much good for the country"

That line really jumped out at me as well. Up until that point I just assumed she was a kind of Washington nerd in the sense of an ambition to work for the highest offices of the land in a patriotic duty way. And her family happened to grow up being Republican, so she was naturally working for them. But it seemed like, up til then, she was more of a professional aid worker than a Trump cult follower.

Disappointing, but as others said here, her saying that gives the committee and the charges more credibility.

[2naSalit]

59. That did not escape my notice either.

[iemanja]

68. It's not like Trump would hire a Democrat

What did you expect?

[Samrob]

72. That made me cringe. I want to ask the people who say that what did he do? nt

[bullwinkle428]

73. So, exactly like Rusty Bowers, the Arizona House Speaker that testified

last week.

[arthritisR_US]

74. That is part of her cognitive dissonance, complete

self loathing would probably have rendered her incapable of testifying publicly.

[Mr. Ected]

79. Let's not forget, he'll be working on infrastructure beginning next month

Maybe the best thing Trump did for our country is to fuck up so badly he lost.

[IcyPeas]

80. has she mentioned if she'd vote for him if he's the nominee in '24?

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

85. She and others espousing this stuff

are like the townspeople in the fairy tale "The Emperor's New Clothes". All the evidence is right in front of them and they can't see it. They have been brain washed, bamboozled, fooled and faked. I don't know how we fix that.............