General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsClarence Thomas' Latest Guns Decision Is Ahistorical and Anti-Originalist
SlateLink to tweet
Baitball Blogger
(46,753 posts)Call these judges out on their poor reasoning. It's the only way we're going to challenge their cases.
usonian
(9,849 posts)Rabbi suing because "live at conception" conflicts with his "live at first breath" belief.
So, it goes all the way to this? Overturn their own decision? (even if it's not explicitly "live at conception"
I don't know if there's a way to challenge (IANAL) or nullify or just ignore.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Baitball Blogger
(46,753 posts)Also, because the Rogue Court has behaved badly and does not represent the views of the majority of Americans, would not surprise me if the judges stumble in their own personal lives. Kavanaugh will probably turn up drunk one day to the wrong event and Clarence, well, hoping the J6 Committee's investigation into Ginni Thomas will lead to Clarence and continues to fracture the Court's raison d'etre.
usonian
(9,849 posts)I posted elsewhere that I'm going to write whitehouse.gov and raise the urgency signal to use those GWB executive powers to deal in an extraordinary way to an extreme situation. This is comparable only to the Civil War, to which the PB's et. al. have alluded. Explicitly.
And Donald Duck was peeing his pants (even more so) to declare martial law. Under one (suspected) scenario, that was exactly what was planned, and that needs to come out. But it was extreme and seditious.
I suspect that Joe Biden is cautious and that DNC/advisors look at polls, which are backward-looking, and aren't planning an "appropriate" response. He has nothing to lose with the RW, who lambast him if he ties his shoelaces with unequal size loops, and many/most would admire forceful action, given the message "This was a F-ing civil war declaration, seditious shitstorm and the proof of that is clear"
I have this and a couple of other things to do, so maybe an OP tomorrow.
The "seed" (pun intended) of fear has been planted by distinctly fascist and unconstitutional actions. It will come to term.
The universe is a mirror. Evil deeds come back to the originator. Just not on our preferred time scale.
So, I won't wish anyone evil.
Baitball Blogger
(46,753 posts)I like where you're going.
paleotn
(17,938 posts)This is all ideology, theology and Thomas's ax grinding about liberals. He's a sick piece of shit. He and Gini are well matched.
Rhiannon12866
(205,812 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,753 posts)Maybe that's why their reasoning is so sloppy! They know the clock is running out on their good time.
UTUSN
(70,725 posts)LonePirate
(13,429 posts)Anything in the past - be it years ago or yesterday - matters not. Furthermore, what they say or do tomorrow has no relevance either. Consistency in belief or logic is not a trademark of right wing thought. Obtaining power, executing it and maintaining it are all that matter to them. Those are the only core values that never change for them.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,481 posts)In the legal community, Thomas is considered to be one of the worst SCOTUS justices in history
Link to tweet
https://thinkprogress.org/the-five-worst-supreme-court-justices-in-american-history-ranked-f725000b59e8/
Justice Clarence Thomas is the only current member of the Supreme Court who has explicitly embraced the reasoning of Lochner Era decisions striking down nationwide child labor laws and making similar attacks on federal power. Indeed, under the logic Thomas first laid out in a concurring opinion in United States v. Lopez, the federal minimum wage, overtime rules, anti-discrimination protections for workers, and even the national ban on whites-only lunch counters are all unconstitutional.
Though Thomass views are rare today, they have, sadly, not been the least bit uncommon during the Supreme Courts history. He makes this list because, frankly, he should know better than his predecessors. As I explain in Injustices, many of the justices who resisted progressive legislation in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries were, like Field, motivated by ideology. Many others, however, were motivated by fear of the rapid changes state and federal lawmakers implemented in the wake of the even more rapid changes brought about by the Industrial Revolution. It was possible to believe, in a world where factories, railroads, and the laws required to regulate factories and railroads were all very new things, that these laws would, as Herbert Hoover once said about the New Deal, destroy the very foundations of our American system by extending government into our economic and social life.
But Thomas has the benefit of eighty years of American history that Hoover had not witnessed when he warned of an overreaching government. In that time, the Supreme Court largely abandoned the values embraced by Justice Field, and the United States became the mightiest nation in the history of politics and the wealthiest nation in the history of money.