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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTo prosecute (Trump) or not...the dilemma?
I keep bringing the topic up because I'm can't accept the explanations for not indicting the bastard. "Dangerous precedent" be damned...he's a dangerous man. It could "spark unrest" or "further divide the country" be damned...the country is already in a state of unrest and division. It could "lead to civil war" be damned...I believe that rhetoric is bullshit bluff.
His crime isn't some petty, two-bit act like taking the White House silverware to Mar-a-Lago when he left. He tried to delegitimize a Presidential election by blocking the certification procedure to remain in power. That in itself, is a precedent which simply cannot be condoned. As noted in the link:
"You can only shoot people in the middle of Fifth Avenue so many times before someone is going to arrest you and put you in jail," former government ethics lawyer Norman Eisen tells the Financial Times.
The supposed dilemma?
So, Garland is concerned about the image of DOJ? That's the risk?
I hope so...
https://theweek.com/donald-trump/1014343/the-relative-merits-of-charging-trump-for-a-crime
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)losing my dad ( because he purposely didn't warn
About Covid, early on.) For that alone I want him to rot away somewhere.
If you can't get him on anything he's done, politics be damned, there is zero justice, ZERO.
ecstatic
(32,712 posts)Didn't think so. It's amazing how quickly they can move on some cases. The coup plotters have had nearly two f*cking years to get rid of evidence. It's infuriating!
sprinkleeninow
(20,251 posts)kentuck
(111,103 posts)It could spell the end of the Democratic Party as we have known it. The majority of Democrats will not support a Party or a President that does not defend our Constitution against such an attack. It simply will not be tolerated.
global1
(25,253 posts)He's a criminal. He has broken so many laws. He spearheaded a coup.
He needs to be held accountable. He should be in jail. Criminals need to be held accountable. You do the crime you do the time.
Stuart G
(38,436 posts)If Donald Trump broke state crimes, then the State of New York will indict him & try him.
(my opinion only,...Yes he broke federal and State of New York laws..& maybe Georgia laws too)
To me it is not that complicated. The prosecutors will figure it out, ain't my job...
What would be political is to not prosecute him for his crimes. How does the Attorney General have the authority to decide whether it would be bad politically for the country? If that was true, the president has the authority to pardon him, not the AG. Mr Garland, do your job. Let the president decide about the politics. That's why he appointed you and stayed out of your way.
Meadowoak
(5,551 posts)Stuart G
(38,436 posts)kentuck
(111,103 posts)I get the feeling there isn't much patience left?
EndlessWire
(6,537 posts)The only question for me is if we exile him, to get rid of him, send him to Gitmo, or put him in a Super Max.
If we don't indict his Orange Ass, it says a lot about us, and it ain't good. That would be putting the Orange Turd above the law.
His inciting a riot and then sitting around apparently hoping that Pence would get hung is despicable. Surely, Garland isn't going to let him go?
Garland's allegiance needs to be with following the Constitution and indicting those that attempted to overthrow our Government. Period. If he doesn't like his responsibilities, then let him resign so someone else can protect our country. There's nothing partisan about that. Not hard to understand.
As soon as the J6 hearings have concluded, we need to see movement from DOJ. We are running out of time.
2naSalit
(86,647 posts)Is pathetic.
Chainfire
(17,549 posts)There could be no limits to his or her exercise of power. The only reason for not prosecuting him would be to destroy Democracy and replace it with a ruling monarchy. If Garland finds a reason to let Trump off the hook, then he too is a traitor and should face justice.
I think that it is safe to say that we know, beyond reasonable doubt, that Trump committed crimes. It is time to either hold him responsible or return him to power and just skip the pesky and expensive elections.
Novara
(5,843 posts)So maybe we should quit flogging it?
Most of the headlines I see are not about this false debate, but those in the know saying that for the health of the country, the orange motherfucker has to be prosecuted. In other words, they aren't debating it anymore; they're taking a stand on the side of prosecution.
Messaging matters. Repeat something often enough and people end up believing it and agreeing with it. This is what I'm seeing: prosecute the motherfucker. I am not seeing much debate anymore. The message is on the side of action, not inaction.