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(37,451 posts)It never goes away, never.
rubbersole
(6,699 posts)Traildogbob
(8,752 posts)Have a very hard time convincing me that police are not sick of citizens ability to have any and as many guns as you want. Even teenage nut cases. High powered sniper style rifle. Fuck you GQP and SCROTUS.
IronLionZion
(45,454 posts)because plenty of cops have spoken out against it.
plimsoll
(1,670 posts)but they need to follow the advice of the conservatives who are constantly telling black people that they need to "police" themselves. I believe that most of them are decent, even if I disagree with their politics, but the "bad apple" story seems to forget that the rest of the aphorism is that it rots the whole barrel.
Shipwack
(2,164 posts)In an argument about how corrupt police departments are, he claimed that the real quote is one bad apple doesnt spoil the barrel.
plimsoll
(1,670 posts)Here's a more reliable source
One bad apple
And I used barrel because that was the older, unless you want to count The Cooks tale, "Well better is a rotten apple out of the store Than that it rot all the remnant."
And we let folks like that play with originalism? I have choice words, but I'll keep them to myself.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)that leads to almost complete opposition to gun control among rank and file police and their unions:
1) Police have been completely coopted at the personal level by conservative ideology. It's somewhere in the mid-80% that now identify as Republican or conservative.
2) Police have been granted near impunity to shoot anybody at any time.
JI7
(89,252 posts)while Democrats tend to focus on mostly higher level things
Rebl2
(13,523 posts)agree with everything you say.
JI7
(89,252 posts)that are spreaking against Trump.
In minority areas there needs to be more people from the neighborhoods in top positions and they need to provide protection to people that testify against criminals. This includes providing them with resources to move to different areas .
Traildogbob
(8,752 posts)Would be concerned about weapons that could decapitate THEM all over the streets. We best arm ourselves. I see no end, with little protection from police.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)purr-rat beauty
(543 posts)Police Lives Matter They Say, Protect the Child They Say, An Armed Society is a Polite Society They Say...
over and over every day
calimary
(81,318 posts)And for these horrific times.
Had enough of guns YET, America????????
RussellCattle
(1,535 posts).....and that he may have had some effect on the numerous bad apples on the police force.
czarjak
(11,278 posts)LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)tenderfoot
(8,437 posts)eom
James48
(4,436 posts)Where Kyle Rittenhouse is today?
duckworth969
(600 posts)pic brought me to tears.
Kid Berwyn
(14,909 posts)As all who have lost loved ones to gun violence know.
Love and peace to you and yours, CatWoman.