Are You Surprised The Highland Park Shooter Was MAGA?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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[Ocelot II]

1. I didn't assume he was - these shooters have all kinds of agendas and motives -

but I'm not surprised.

[Ocelot II]

6. He also attended a TFG rally, so there's that.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216888122

But he also gives off some pretty intense angry incel vibes.

[W_HAMILTON]

22. That's almost redundant.

A Venn diagram of angry incels and Trump supporters would damn near be a single circle.

[yardwork]

7. Really? Do you have a link for that?

I've seen him wearing a Pepe the Frog t-shirt.

[RockRaven]

8. Lots of antifa post pics of themselves wearing a Trump flag as a cape, or FBI caps, on Twitter?

Anything is possible, I guess...

[yardwork]

26. I guarantee they don't. We need to push back on these falsehoods.

This is not antifa. This is not BLM. This is not "the libs" or Democrats.

[Fullduplexxx]

10. So did the rightwingers in portland

[brush]

15. Enjoy your stay here on DU.

[Bucky]

2. I didn't /expect/ it. Fringe people are, by nature, not joiners

But no, no surprise here.

[mucifer]

3. When I heard "Highland Park" I immediately thought it was an anti semitic hate crime

[aeromanKC]

4. I am getting more incel gamer than MAGA

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Haven't listen to much of his manifesto/lyrics though.

Edit: I just saw his pic at a Trump rally. Now, I'm getting both incel AND MAGA!!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. Is being an incel and being MAGA mutually exclusive?

[Kaleva]

11. No but it's possible to be one but not the other

[aeromanKC]

13. Going with not MAGA due to lack of Confederate flags on wall or TFG grift material.

[AkFemDem]

17. I'm leaning this way

I think the trump flag picture may have been meant to be a parody- especially if his father actually is a MAGAt. He doesn’t look like a kid a conservative father would be especially proud of, in that case anything dad supports would be grounds for ridicule.

I think incel for sure though.

[JI7]

16. Incels are part of the MAGA base

[W_HAMILTON]

23. Once again, that's pretty much redundant.

Incels (of any type) are very, very, very often Trump supporters.

[brush]

12. What else would he be?

[Kaleva]

14. Seem to be more threads about the political leanings of the shooter...

then of the victims.

I understand some can make points if the shooter is a TFG supporter and that may explain the interest or at least part of the interest.

[iemanja]

18. There are threads

but I haven't seen any that link to a story. One thread pointed to a deleted tweet. I've looked in the reputable media and haven't found anything about him other than he is a person of interest and his name. I'd really like to know if there is any reliable information on this.

[WarGamer]

20. I read a couple hundred of his tweets.

Didn't even see a mention of Trump or politics...

But I saw him talking shit about women... including derogatory lyrics about women in his rap.

Incel.

[AkFemDem]

21. I just hope his incel (or not- but really, yeah he is) status

And his fathers politics don’t become the noise that once again drowns out the core issue here- civilians owning military style assault guns. The deflection from guns to inept cops in Uvade was fast and very effective, even on this site.

[yardwork]

27. It's because we're getting the usual misinformation stating that he's a lefty.

This happens every time.

[Kaleva]

28. Where is that misinformation coming from?

If I understand the 3 other responses to my post correctly, the shooter is pretty much apolitical.

I myself is going to wait awhile before saying where he was on the political spectrum.

[yardwork]

33. Where is the misinformation coming from? The usual sources, I assume.

I saw at least one newbie troll here pushing the "he was antifa!!!" message yesterday before he was banned. I don't watch Fox but I imagine Tucker's on it. Podcasts, blogs, hate radio. My Trumpster uncle routinely posts memes on his Facebook page that say all the recent mass killers were Democrats. My guess is that the NRA has a crisis response team that pushes out this false info as soon as every mass shooting occurs. Blaming "crazy lefties" for gun violence is an essential part of their scheme.

[ProfessorGAC]

19. No

I didn't necessarily assume that was the case, but I'm not surprised to find this out.

[moondust]

24. Not at all. In fact...

he may be spotted here soon:

[npk]

25. I prefer to refer to them as domestic terrorists...

That's the true legacy of MAGA.

[orleans]

29. shouldn't you be asking "will you be surprised if the ..." ?

i've been glued to local news that reported on this story all day
no one ever said he was maga or trumper that i heard

although one station said he was picked on or had problems in school in jr. high so then he was home schooled. but later, some random hometown girl said she recognized the last name of the shooter & said he had gone to the local high school.
??
i don't know if he did go to the local high school or not.
i know the girl might have recognized the name because his dad owns a deli and ran for mayor in 2020

[LetMyPeopleVote]

30. Typical TFG supporter

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[AZLD4Candidate]

32. First tweet, the loser looks like a cracked out Waldo.

[AZLD4Candidate]

31. Shocked. Shocked I tell you.

Well, not that shocked. More like expected.

Eh. . .I guess I'm not shocked at all.

[Hortensis]

34. As said, crazies come in various types, but no, not surprised.

Most violent crazies are conservative in ideology (as opposed to all crazies), and a lot of murderous conservatives these days are MAGA.

But definitely not all. Just look at all the RW domestic violent extremists who are anarchhists/nihilists, antigovernment militias, neonazis, ethnonationalists, etc., etc., but not trumpists.

[Amishman]

35. slightly, just because of the date

Given that crowd's nationalistic zeal, I would have thought they would hesitate on the Fourth.

Kind of like how I would expect someone who is devout to hesitate to attack someone inside their place of worship.

edit: read up on what is now known about the murderer. Sounds like a complete lunatic. Extremely unstable even in comparison to your typical MAGA rally attendee.

[Polybius]

36. A little actually

I thought Independence Day was their number one holiday. Then seeing his picture with his tattooed face, slender build, and skater style I thought for sure he wasn't. Boy, was I wrong.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

37. For this thread

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

38. Waldo (literally screaming to be noticed) is standing next to a delegate to the Illinois Republican

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

39. This domestic terrorist has been charged with 7 counts of first degree murder.

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