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What the F*ck Liz Cheney? I thought you didn't believe in lying to the American people? (Original Post) Saoirse9 Jul 2022 OP
You thought she changed her position on issues ? JI7 Jul 2022 #1
NO. But I thought she drew the line at lying Saoirse9 Jul 2022 #4
No but at least she's sticking to HER family values Bucky Jul 2022 #8
Huh? Her family values include lying to the American people? Saoirse9 Jul 2022 #14
Yes they do mvd Jul 2022 #38
Liz Cheney is not our friend Ohio Joe Jul 2022 #2
I'm not a fan but I give her points redstateblues Jul 2022 #9
She was just fine with everything trump did excpt that one thing Fullduplexxx Jul 2022 #3
That one thing was pretty important becsuse it meant preventing JI7 Jul 2022 #5
1. She's running for re-election. She's got to pander about something Bucky Jul 2022 #6
She's a rethug and a Cheney Leith Jul 2022 #7
That's it, but after that she despensible BunkieBandit Jul 2022 #30
Democrats really wouldn't have that choice Leith Jul 2022 #35
First of all, that is not a recent clip. madaboutharry Jul 2022 #10
You sure it isn't recent? Saoirse9 Jul 2022 #12
She was JUST at the RR Library last week, too. WarGamer Jul 2022 #19
She is talking about a Democratic governor of Virgina. madaboutharry Jul 2022 #22
Okay thanks. I should take this down then Saoirse9 Jul 2022 #23
Leave it although it may be old. SharonClark Jul 2022 #27
okay I'll leave it Saoirse9 Jul 2022 #34
I tried telling everyone here... WarGamer Jul 2022 #11
Well said. SharonClark Jul 2022 #26
TFG dissed her dad. That's it. BunkieBandit Jul 2022 #32
What kind of delusion are people under? kentuck Jul 2022 #13
I expected her not to tell outrageous lies. That is all. Saoirse9 Jul 2022 #17
I have always said, had it been any republican but Trump she would have been fine with 1/6. Autumn Jul 2022 #15
We knew she was a snake when we chose to take her in. bullwinkle428 Jul 2022 #16
But what the hell is she talking about here? Beatlelvr Jul 2022 #18
Just call a fetus a terrorist and ole Liz will be right on (the water) board with Solly Mack Jul 2022 #20
Whoa there! Yeah she crazy. Saoirse9 Jul 2022 #24
I'm no fan but as she is what she is, her ah, conservative views, are no surprise. Solly Mack Jul 2022 #25
The sanctity of life, unless a good war comes up RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2022 #21
If you thought that, you were mistaken. What part of "Cheney" did you not understand? JHB Jul 2022 #28
What lies? Shebawas in running mode and 2 years ago the Guvner... TreasonousBastard Jul 2022 #29
In the divorce they got Putin and we got... Hugin Jul 2022 #31
LOL n/t Saoirse9 Jul 2022 #39
Well let's quit glorifying her like she's on our side. BunkieBandit Jul 2022 #33
I wonder how her "colleagues" feel about sitting on the same committee after hearing that? JanMichael Jul 2022 #36
She's anti-abortion Polybius Jul 2022 #37

mvd

(65,174 posts)
38. Yes they do
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 10:49 PM
Jul 2022

Her father did plenty of it on Iraq. I am glad she draws the line at the preservation of democracy, but she is bad on the issues.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
9. I'm not a fan but I give her points
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 07:40 PM
Jul 2022

For being one of only two Republicans to risk standing up to Trump

JI7

(89,252 posts)
5. That one thing was pretty important becsuse it meant preventing
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 07:39 PM
Jul 2022

him from stealing office. And pushing more right wing crap that she would support.

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
6. 1. She's running for re-election. She's got to pander about something
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 07:39 PM
Jul 2022

2. She's partnering with the Democrats in going after Trump, who she supported 95% of the time. Now she calls Democrats "pure evil" for killing babies after they're born (some type of abortion procedure, I assume).

So there's one thing we've learned about Liz Cheney, she doesn't have a problem partnering with pure evil, whether it's Trump or the Democrats. She's a Cheney. This is just an apple not rolling far from the tree.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
7. She's a rethug and a Cheney
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 07:39 PM
Jul 2022

Did that leopard change her spots?

Probably not, but she's useful in her fight against the orange monster.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
35. Democrats really wouldn't have that choice
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 09:53 PM
Jul 2022

She's rethug, always has been, always will be. She will probably stay as long as the committee keeps meeting because her goals coincide with ours. But she is not one of us and she would be the first to say so. As long as she and we can work together to get rid of the orange monster, it will be an alliance.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
10. First of all, that is not a recent clip.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 07:42 PM
Jul 2022

Secondly, this is not news. She has always been fervently anti-choice.

This guy has been attacking her on Twitter non-stop. No one thinks her views have changed. Or that democrats should vote for her.

She is doing great work on the J6 committee to save democracy. End of story.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
22. She is talking about a Democratic governor of Virgina.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 08:10 PM
Jul 2022

The current governor of Virginia is republican.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
27. Leave it although it may be old.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 08:28 PM
Jul 2022

Her lies about Dems murdering babies haven’t changed. It’s not your fault it was tweeted as if it happened recently. The deception was by the original tweeter who didn’t include the date of the video.

WarGamer

(12,449 posts)
11. I tried telling everyone here...
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 07:43 PM
Jul 2022

Liz Cheney doesn't hate Trump because Trump is evil and did bad shit.


She's mad because he destroyed neoconservatism.

She certainly hoped to be the standard bearer for the McCain/Cheney/Kristol flavor of conservatism.

She's no different than every other 1980's thru 2000's GOP'er

Hopefully fewer pom poms and drooling posts about her now.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)
13. What kind of delusion are people under?
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 07:44 PM
Jul 2022

Liz Cheney never said she was a liberal and never promised she would change her position on abortion? What did you really expect from her?

She is in a race in Wyoming which she will probably lose and if she came against the Roe ruling, that would likely be the final nail in the coffin.

She is on our side fighting for our democracy against the most dangerous man in the world.

What more do you expect?

Beatlelvr

(619 posts)
18. But what the hell is she talking about here?
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 08:01 PM
Jul 2022

She gives no information or reference to what the issue is. HOW are Dems killing babies? Is she saying Dems are attacking newborns in the nursery or something? This is how the right demonizes the opposition. Throw out some horrific statements without evidence, and their followers lap it up, and it mushrooms from there.

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
20. Just call a fetus a terrorist and ole Liz will be right on (the water) board with
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 08:02 PM
Jul 2022

torturing it to death.

2017

Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) praised President Donald Trump’s reported decision to order a review of how the U.S. is handling the war on terror...

“It’s been clear, certainly since we stopped the enhanced interrogation program, we’re not even in a position anymore, frankly, where we’re very often capturing people,” Cheney said. “We have nothing to do with people when we do capture them.”


“What we know is that the enhanced interrogation program provided some of the information, and some of the evidence, that eventually led us to be able to locate, capture and kill bin Laden,” Cheney said. “I do support enhanced interrogation, I think that it’s something that clearly has helped us in the past to save lives, and so I was glad to see President Trump take that step.”


“The use of enhanced interrogation has been ― when it was in use ― very limited,” Cheney said, “limited to only three people who were waterboarded and used in a situation where we had to get information to save American lives.”


“It’s the responsibility of any chief executive, any commander in chief to make sure we use every tool at our disposal,” she continued, “understanding that it’s not torture. We don’t torture, we haven’t tortured.




2021

Liz Cheney, We Have a Memory. You’re No Hero.


Nah. No amnesia for me, thank you.

With respect to Dick Cheney, I ask you to recall just one thing: the torture program under the Bush administration. He’s said that if he had it to do over, he would torture again.

The torture gene must run in the family, for Liz Cheney praised the Trump administration’s review of the treatment of terrorism suspects. As HuffPost reported:

“Cheney also asserted that waterboarding works, and that it helped in securing crucial information leading to the capture of Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden (a debunked theory). ‘It’s been clear, certainly since we stopped the enhanced interrogation program, we’re not even in a position anymore, frankly, where we’re very often capturing people,’ Cheney said. ‘We have nothing to do with people when we do capture them.’”



And of course, she has no problem lying about the Democratic Party's position on abortion. Of course, she's full of shit.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
28. If you thought that, you were mistaken. What part of "Cheney" did you not understand?
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 08:28 PM
Jul 2022

Just because she's on the J6 committee doesn't mean she doesn't deserve full treatment as "The Enemy" in any other context.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
29. What lies? Shebawas in running mode and 2 years ago the Guvner...
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 08:31 PM
Jul 2022

of somewhere mentioned late term abortion, which leads to death. Usually when the kid wouldn't have lived anyway.

This got overplayed, as things tend to when in campaign mode, and nobody would dare to come out for baby murder so Liz can happily go on to the next subject.

There's plenty to complain about with her-- no need to make stuff up.

BunkieBandit

(82 posts)
33. Well let's quit glorifying her like she's on our side.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 09:21 PM
Jul 2022

Trump dissed McCain. Nothing more, nothing less. It's a personal vendetta and I'll never go with the friend of my enemy is my friend. Too many snakes in the grass. Political posturing

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
36. I wonder how her "colleagues" feel about sitting on the same committee after hearing that?
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 10:31 PM
Jul 2022

While I doubt they will say shit they probably feel about the same about her as she does about them. She hates Democrats and Liberals. Period.

Polybius

(15,433 posts)
37. She's anti-abortion
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 10:43 PM
Jul 2022

Why should she change just because she hates Trump? She's also running in an extremely tough primary.

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