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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNRA: The only reason you're celebrating Independence Day is because citizens were armed
Link to tweet
And yet... It does not feel much like a celebration. I guess to the gun nuts it is... Sheesh.
AndyS
(14,559 posts)and I don't really feel up to celebrating either for a lot or reasons.
ornotna
(10,801 posts)Why is this here, on this day?
lastlib
(23,237 posts)Only reason I can give, but it's good enough, I s'pose.
dchill
(38,497 posts)BootinUp
(47,152 posts)dchill
(38,497 posts)RockRaven
(14,967 posts)necessary.
Triloon
(506 posts)Samrob
(4,298 posts)RockRaven
(14,967 posts)I don't believe that their falsehoods are told out of ignorance.
But your implication that they have no affection for, or loyalty to, historical truths is agreed with entirely by me.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)but most people live near cities or ports not on the frontier. Those weapons were more for hunting or protection in remote territory. The average colonist didn't have weapons, the communities did in their local armories. Mostly it was the Kings.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)Forming a proper army and France's assistance were essential, but those steps would not have been possible without the militias and armed colonists.
The army was formed out of the militias, and the skirmishes and raids by the militias bought the time needed to organize the army.
Also, the logistics issues and steady losses inflicted by militias and other irregulars weakened the British forces. Without that possibility of victory, France wouldn't have intervened.
So you are right, but that tweet is too.
The real question to me is the point that tweet trying to make even relevant to the modern day?
delisen
(6,043 posts)kenisgod1
(6 posts)The only reason you're celebrating Independence Day is because citizens were armed WITH MUSKETS....
msongs
(67,406 posts)brush
(53,778 posts)and what Scalia left out in his Heller decision. No individual, unorganizded citizens with single shot muskets defeated the Brits.
They were in well organized militia units. The whole point of the 2nd Amendment.
Walleye
(31,025 posts)iemanja
(53,032 posts)According to a HuffPo article I read.
Cha
(297,240 posts)Killing Children & Parade Goers, and those Shopping for Groceries, etc.. Shouldn't be Allowed a Fucking Automatic Killing Machine..
YOu Stupid Fucks NRA.
Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!
C_U_L8R
(45,002 posts)It's about time rest of the country admits that the NRA is the problem and toxic gun culture must be eradicated. Our freedom to live is more vital than your misguided unregulated 2nd amendment 'rights'
The Unmitigated Gall
(3,816 posts)Could you blow to pieces with a musket?
Asking for myself.
Fuck you, NRA.
thomski64
(454 posts)... to reapply to the British Commomwealth?
Much more sensible attitudes about firearms.
DBoon
(22,366 posts)the french decided supporting American colonists was the best way to get back at their English opponents
Wounded Bear
(58,656 posts)czarjak
(11,277 posts)unblock
(52,236 posts)Perhaps something like:
"I would like to think that the organization, regulation, and disciplining of guns and people with guns had something to do with it."
lastlib
(23,237 posts)...until von Steuben arrived and made them into a frickin' ARMY with actual army weapons and DISCIPLINE.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,691 posts)is because everyone and their brother is armed to the teeth.
We don't want to kiss our child goodbye, put them on the school bus, and never see them alive again.
I don't want to kiss my wife, have her go out in public, and get beat up or shot because she is Asian.
She doesn't want to kiss me, then I go out and get beat up or shot because I'm Jewish.
We don't want to take our lives in our hands if we decide to go to a movie, a restaurant, a school, a supermarket, or just outside.
NRA, you love armed WHITE people. Where is your work for minorities?
In other words, Wayne LaPierre and (as Carlin called them) "those dickless lunatics at the NRA" are hypocritical in this and all their BS.
And, again, as Carlin said: "Doesn't Wayne LaPierre seems a little fruity to you? Hi, I'm Wayne. I'm a gun person. Bang Bang!"
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)Just how far their heads are up their asses.
raccoon
(31,111 posts)Emile
(22,765 posts)no one would get shot.