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NRA: The only reason you're celebrating Independence Day is because citizens were armed (Original Post) Ohio Joe Jul 2022 OP
It's an NRA lie like all the others AndyS Jul 2022 #1
I don't give a flipping fuck what the nra thinks. ornotna Jul 2022 #2
So we know the stoopidity we have to fight.... lastlib Jul 2022 #24
That is so WAY fucked. dchill Jul 2022 #3
Its a cult motto. BootinUp Jul 2022 #6
I'm sure. Still. dchill Jul 2022 #9
Reality: armed citizens weren't sufficient, the Continental Army and French intervention were RockRaven Jul 2022 #4
Exactly. Nt Triloon Jul 2022 #12
Do you really think HISTORY matters to these bastards? nt Samrob Jul 2022 #14
Well, I suspect it matters to them insofar as they tell knowing lies about it to obscure reality. RockRaven Jul 2022 #19
Yup they like to play on the Pa & Kentucky long rifles... Historic NY Jul 2022 #26
It's a little more complicated than that Amishman Jul 2022 #31
a lot of children and adults are not celebrating Independence Day because citizens were armed delisen Jul 2022 #5
Someone should fix it for them... kenisgod1 Jul 2022 #7
yeah and they were in well organized militias too, sanctioned by the local/state governments nt msongs Jul 2022 #8
This exactly is what they like to leave out... brush Jul 2022 #21
The cannons probably helped Walleye Jul 2022 #10
They released that after the Highland Park shooting iemanja Jul 2022 #11
It's NOT the Same, SHITHEADS.. Mass Muderers Cha Jul 2022 #13
There were never mass shootings until the NRA came along C_U_L8R Jul 2022 #15
How many colonist's children The Unmitigated Gall Jul 2022 #16
Is it too late.. thomski64 Jul 2022 #17
The only reason you're celebrating Independence Day is because ... DBoon Jul 2022 #18
A polite society doesn't need to be armed... Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #20
"Guns are for killing, and The Good Book is against killing" said Alvin York. Great movie. czarjak Jul 2022 #22
George washington would like a word or two unblock Jul 2022 #23
Those "citizens with guns" were barely worth a runny crap.... lastlib Jul 2022 #25
Listen, Skeezix NRA. . .the biggest reason my wife and I are debating living in the US again AZLD4Candidate Jul 2022 #27
Then the mass shooting showed them Dirty Socialist Jul 2022 #28
NRA can tell that to the people who've been killed and injured by mass killers. Nt raccoon Jul 2022 #29
Coming from the people who think if everybody had a gun, Emile Jul 2022 #30

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
1. It's an NRA lie like all the others
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 09:31 PM
Jul 2022

and I don't really feel up to celebrating either for a lot or reasons.

lastlib

(23,237 posts)
24. So we know the stoopidity we have to fight....
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 11:48 PM
Jul 2022

Only reason I can give, but it's good enough, I s'pose.

RockRaven

(14,967 posts)
4. Reality: armed citizens weren't sufficient, the Continental Army and French intervention were
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 09:33 PM
Jul 2022

necessary.

RockRaven

(14,967 posts)
19. Well, I suspect it matters to them insofar as they tell knowing lies about it to obscure reality.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 10:23 PM
Jul 2022

I don't believe that their falsehoods are told out of ignorance.

But your implication that they have no affection for, or loyalty to, historical truths is agreed with entirely by me.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
26. Yup they like to play on the Pa & Kentucky long rifles...
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 02:39 AM
Jul 2022

but most people live near cities or ports not on the frontier. Those weapons were more for hunting or protection in remote territory. The average colonist didn't have weapons, the communities did in their local armories. Mostly it was the Kings.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
31. It's a little more complicated than that
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 06:00 AM
Jul 2022

Forming a proper army and France's assistance were essential, but those steps would not have been possible without the militias and armed colonists.

The army was formed out of the militias, and the skirmishes and raids by the militias bought the time needed to organize the army.

Also, the logistics issues and steady losses inflicted by militias and other irregulars weakened the British forces. Without that possibility of victory, France wouldn't have intervened.

So you are right, but that tweet is too.

The real question to me is the point that tweet trying to make even relevant to the modern day?

kenisgod1

(6 posts)
7. Someone should fix it for them...
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 09:37 PM
Jul 2022

The only reason you're celebrating Independence Day is because citizens were armed WITH MUSKETS....

brush

(53,778 posts)
21. This exactly is what they like to leave out...
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 11:21 PM
Jul 2022

and what Scalia left out in his Heller decision. No individual, unorganizded citizens with single shot muskets defeated the Brits.

They were in well organized militia units. The whole point of the 2nd Amendment.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
13. It's NOT the Same, SHITHEADS.. Mass Muderers
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 10:01 PM
Jul 2022

Killing Children & Parade Goers, and those Shopping for Groceries, etc.. Shouldn't be Allowed a Fucking Automatic Killing Machine..

YOu Stupid Fucks NRA.

Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
15. There were never mass shootings until the NRA came along
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 10:11 PM
Jul 2022

It's about time rest of the country admits that the NRA is the problem and toxic gun culture must be eradicated. Our freedom to live is more vital than your misguided unregulated 2nd amendment 'rights'

thomski64

(454 posts)
17. Is it too late..
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 10:13 PM
Jul 2022

... to reapply to the British Commomwealth?
Much more sensible attitudes about firearms.

DBoon

(22,366 posts)
18. The only reason you're celebrating Independence Day is because ...
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 10:14 PM
Jul 2022

the french decided supporting American colonists was the best way to get back at their English opponents

unblock

(52,236 posts)
23. George washington would like a word or two
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 11:31 PM
Jul 2022

Perhaps something like:

"I would like to think that the organization, regulation, and disciplining of guns and people with guns had something to do with it."

lastlib

(23,237 posts)
25. Those "citizens with guns" were barely worth a runny crap....
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 11:54 PM
Jul 2022

...until von Steuben arrived and made them into a frickin' ARMY with actual army weapons and DISCIPLINE.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,691 posts)
27. Listen, Skeezix NRA. . .the biggest reason my wife and I are debating living in the US again
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 03:26 AM
Jul 2022

is because everyone and their brother is armed to the teeth.

We don't want to kiss our child goodbye, put them on the school bus, and never see them alive again.
I don't want to kiss my wife, have her go out in public, and get beat up or shot because she is Asian.
She doesn't want to kiss me, then I go out and get beat up or shot because I'm Jewish.

We don't want to take our lives in our hands if we decide to go to a movie, a restaurant, a school, a supermarket, or just outside.

NRA, you love armed WHITE people. Where is your work for minorities?

In other words, Wayne LaPierre and (as Carlin called them) "those dickless lunatics at the NRA" are hypocritical in this and all their BS.

And, again, as Carlin said: "Doesn't Wayne LaPierre seems a little fruity to you? Hi, I'm Wayne. I'm a gun person. Bang Bang!"

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