Kamala Harris Keeps Beating Ron DeSantis In Polls. Why Don't We Hear More About That?

[kpete]

While we keep hearing a lot about how Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is supposed to be the anointed GOP candidate in 2024 if Donald Trump doesn't run, or is (ahem) otherwise occupied, like if he's throwing trays of prison food at the walls (don't get your hopes up), we aren't yet seeing much speculation about the Democratic ticket. That's mostly because it seems pretty likely Joe Biden will run for reelection. But if he chooses not to, polling has already pretty consistently shown Vice President Kamala Harris doing especially well against DeSantis. A recent Yahoo News/YouGov poll even shows her running about even with Trump, with both Harris and Trump getting 41 percent.

Yes, this is where we remind you that, four months before this year's midterms, it seems pretty daft to be talking about polling for the 2024 presidential race, and any numbers out there represent vague impressions, not an outline for what's coming. Heck, by the time the 2024 primaries are supposed to start, America may already be under martial law after Canadian peacekeepers march in to save us from ourselves.

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[Lovie777]

1. Because ......

beating up Pres. Biden is the goal.

[Mad_Machine76]

2. Also

it looks like Biden is beating DeathSantis and Trump as well, so why all of the dooming and glooming about him running in 2024? I know these polls are only speculative at this juncture, but it upsets the narrative that the media is trying to create around Biden potentially not running in 2024 and/or that we need to ditch Harris if he doesn't run for some reason.

[Bettie]

7. And what's up with the assumption that he isn't running in 2024?

Yeah, he's old, but he seems like he's in better shape physically and mentally than the orange homunculus.

[Mad_Machine76]

9. It drives me crazy too

Especially since he hasn't even hinted personally or publicly that he's not running in 2024, so I don't get all of the media speculation unless it's (probably) just for the media to fill empty airtime and perpetuate an aura of "crisis" and "doom" for Biden and Democrats in general.

[LymphocyteLover]

29. Exactly! And if there are Dems pushing this idea that he shouldn't run in 2024-- STOP IT!!!

[rubbersole]

31. And he is such a decent man.

The tiniest thing gets negative media attention while tfg is constantly embarrassing himself without consequences. Infuriating.

[irisblue]

3. VP Harris is a talented, successful biracial woman.That is frightening to many mediocre white people

Last edited Wed Jul 6, 2022, 10:21 AM - Edit history (1)

--edited to add on caffeine and more thought--
I should have used the term biracial, I did not mean to ignore VP Harris SE Asian heritage.

[Bettie]

4. Because the US is a deeply

misogynistic and racist nation. She covers both of those bases.

Even around here, I see "people don't like her" or "she's unpopular" coupled with support for whichever white man is in vogue at the moment.

We won't see a woman president in my lifetime, but I'm getting older, so maybe some day, or not, because it is likely that the right wing will be able to choose presidents and all elected officials without the bother of counting votes in the near future, since the supreme court is working on ending democracy.

Today, I am not feeling optimistic. In a few days, it may change, but today is not that day.

[Me.]

5. I Had No Idea

all we hear about is how she would lose and how he's such a powerhouse. This is great.

[JI7]

6. Harris has always gotten the ignore treatment from the media on substance

and most report on her when some right wing shitbag decides to attack her on something like buying a cookware in France .

[spanone]

8. The media is NOT our friend.

[RKP5637]

15. K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[onetexan]

30. Ditto! make that 2 K&R's!!!!

[Vogon_Glory]

20. Indeed they aren't

The corporate media want ratings and big ad buys. Facts and the good of the nation aren’t their concern.

[KS Toronado]

27. Believe it's time for every freedom loving Democrat

To start writing, emailing, posting on social media just what in the hell MSM is attempting to do to our
Democracy by running Biden & Liberals down. They have first hand knowledge FailedCoupGuy & Rs
attempted to overthrow our government. You know the MAGA movement leans toward Fascism.

Why in the hell does it feel like you're on Rs side to install a Fascist government in the United States?
You are aware the first thing Fascists go after when in power is journalists and news media to silence
them? Why do you want to cut your own throat?

The upcoming midterms will determine if "trumpism" gets a larger foothold in our government. You want to
see angry MAGAstanians protesting outside your offices yelling "FAKE NEWS" and kill the messenger?
Who in the past has called you Fake News? You trust them?

The current R party has to die for Democracy to survive just like well known Rs like Bill Kristol, The Lincoln
Project and others have said. Are you listening?

If you refuse to help Liberals for a change, I hope you enjoy being told what you can and can't write
or say.

I could probably write a book on this subject but I'll stop here, you get the idea.....
WE NEED MSM TO STOP THEY'RE BOTH-SIDESISMS and paint Biden as a good President who needs more
Ds in Congress to stop Fascists from taking over.

[LymphocyteLover]

32. bingo

[FM123]

10. These polls reflect DeSantis's numbers right now.

After the very jealous & insecure trump starts feeling seriously threatened by DeSatan's rising popularity - trump and his magats will tear him to shreds. Then we Dems will run against (and beat) what is left of him.

[comradebillyboy]

18. Donald Trump's sour grapes gave us two

Democratic Senators in Georgia in 2020. The Dotard may bail out the Democrats again in 2022 and 2024.

[gldstwmn]

24. Exactly. As long as TFG has a breath left in him there will be hell to pay for DeSantis.

[Hugin]

11. On the minus side...

This is why there’s a feverish panicked sloppy rush to strip as many people as possible of their voting rights.

The criminals can not win a popular vote in a national election. They have no bench. None.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

12. Simple. Joe Biden will be our nominee in 2024.

And national popularity polls mean very little in elections that are decided by electoral college races.

[Hortensis]

13. As above. Lot of sense. Anti-Dem forces already at work to defeat Harris, in case.

And of course. Obama's 8 years in office were 8 years they worked ceaselessly to defeat HRC as his successor, and they barely, barely succeeded. With Russia's assistance to all competitors and enemies.

Speaking of, we already elected our first woman president by a large popular vote margin, even though a little procedural issue kept her from office. We're still here. So why would anyone imagine the same people (plus a bare handful needed of others) wouldn't do it again?

Especially when enormous variability and volatility have been demonstrated in what can be elected.

The 100M people who insisted we'd never elect a black president right up to the day we did failed to keep up with reality. Like the first woman we elected, he didn't just come close but won by large margins. Another reality is that the people who elected Obama twice are, again, essentially still here.

The 81 million people who elected 77yo Candidate VP Biden essentially signified willingness to elect our first 82yo president if he is up for a second term. They're still here.

Briefest mention of electing/helping elect depraved orange criminals... Those people are still here also.

[Hugin]

19. That's a fact... HRC did handily win the popular vote.

No amount of them running around fingers-in-ears screaming la-la-la can ever change.

Thanks for reminding me. I find it comforting and possibly I’ve been harsh in my judgment of my fellow citizens.

[Hortensis]

21. And as you say, they cannot win the popular vote in national races --

because of what they are. And it's only going to be worse as more people realize just how bad that -- incredibly! -- is.

[Hugin]

33. The other fact is HRC earned the vast majority of those popular votes.

Instead of being granted them by virtue of having an “R” behind her name as the installed candidate did.

Which I am sure will be true of Vice President Harris, if she should choose to run for the Presidency in whatever year she sees fit.

[Hortensis]

35. Absolutely. Democratic voters tend to be issue and ideals oriented,

as opposed to those who look for a leader to follow and be inspired by. Dems are easily the most honest campaigners as a group. That tends to be very limiting rhetorically compared to opponents less bound by truth, but it reflects what the large majority of Democratic voters expect.

HRC's a huge, enthusiastic policy wonk, always wanting to explain in adult words, lots of them, what she'll do and why, how she'll do it, how to pay for it, etc.

Oh, well. Sigh. As you say, HRC earned the popular vote. In contrast, leading alternatives conned, inveigled, inspired, thrilled those drawn to them, MAGAs and idealists alike, into emotionally committing to them and trusting promises that "only they" could do it.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

14. I would like to know the answers to these question also

[Peacetrain]

16. Because when they try and steal the election again.. they

will say the rightie was always ahead.. simple as that.. the media plays right into their hands every time.. its not about being for or against one side or the other.. its about reporting information correctly so people can believe what they read..

[brooklynite]

17. Because its 2022?

Because we don't know if Biden will run instead?

Because we don't know if Harris will run if he doesn't?

What "more" are you expecting to hear?

[LakeArenal]

22. " it seems pretty likely Joe Biden will run for reelection."

This is the headline… Period.

[GoCubsGo]

23. Because the corporate MSM is more interested in the Trump-DeSantis feud.

They're trying to figure out who to anoint as the 2024 GOP candidate, and there are way too many complications for them to worry about any 2024 match-ups. There is also no indication that anyone other than Biden is going to be the Democratic nominee. Also, DeSantis isn't as popular as they're trying to make us believe. If you put him up against most possible Dem candidates, the Democrat will come out on top. They don't want us to see that. They don't want to dirty up DeSantis any more than he already is, because in the end, Trump isn't going to run, and DeSantis is their guy.

[Fiendish Thingy]

25. Well, this is just one poll, and it's of "adults", not registered voters...

And it’s 2022, so huge grains of salt are required…

What was the original point? That Harris is “electable”?

How was HRC polling in 2014? (Were there any 2024 polls of HRC vs. Trump?)

[momta]

26. Love this...

Heck, by the time the 2024 primaries are supposed to start, America may already be under martial law after Canadian peacekeepers march in to save us from ourselves.

Your lips--God's ears. (Well, okay...your typing fingers--Trudeau's eyes.)

[ancianita]

28. Because we're two years out?

Just keep monitoring. It's much appreciated!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

34. Because the 6 media conglomerates want radical Republicans in control

Saw Harris on Newsy last night. She was fired up!

[DFW]

36. That novel about the Canadians marching in was written some 40 years ago

Not about Canada and the USA, but rather France and Switzerland. France's new socialist government vastly increased its already crushing bureaucracy, and was already showing serious signs of dysfunction. At one point, when French customs officers started illegally harassing French citizens inside Swiss territory, and were promptly arrested by the Swiss cops, the French even shut down the otherwise open border at Basel.

The novel was based on the Swiss feeling the French pain, as well as having gotten fed up with French harassing French and Swiss citizens inside their country, so the Swiss decided to invade and occupy France to make both countries happier. The Swiss were welcomed with open arms, since the French had never had any kind of functioning bureaucracy since Napoléon. Once the Swiss ran things, everything got much better, and everyone was happy. No more hoards of French tax refugees driving up real estate prices for the Swiss inside Switzerland, and no more domestic chaos in France. The whole thing was meant as a comedy, of course, but that didn't stop lots of people on both sides of the French-Swiss border from wishing it had come true.