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iemanja

(53,035 posts)
2. They've already done it
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 10:19 PM
Jul 2022

They make a point of saying that the US is not a democracy but instead a republic. Then they pass laws allowing legislatures to overturn the popular vote, as well as all the laws intended to keep people from voting. They gave up on democracy some time ago.

MiniMe

(21,717 posts)
4. That is actually the truth
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 10:30 PM
Jul 2022

We are a democratic republic. That is the way this country was set up from the beginning.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,647 posts)
10. Our form of government is a constitutional federal democratic republic.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:14 AM
Jul 2022

We call it a democracy for short because most of us are invested in the concept that the citizens are sovereign. We all understand what "democracy" means.

Those who say "we aren't a democracy" do so because they are not invested in that concept. They want a form of government where a group, or groups, other than everyday citizens are sovereign. They want the citizens under the thumbs of oligarchs, authoritarian populists, theocrats or whoever.

The concept that we see as the source of liberty and the path to a rewarding life are anathema to them.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
5. While i was visiting my daughter - she said "We are already in a civil war".
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 10:56 PM
Jul 2022

I thought about it and realized she was correct.

But it will get worse. One problem is that history doesn't give us much of a guide. The civil war is really the same war 150 years later but modern civilization is very different than in 1862.

We don't know where we are headed. I really hope some very smart people are thinking about that. Just 'say'n...

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
7. We've seen first hand what they are capable of..J6 SC overturning decades
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:01 AM
Jul 2022

..of precedent. Republikkklans will cheat, lie, steal and as we saw on J6 kill. How many died that day, days that ensured due to injuries. Can recall who said..J6 was just a practice run. We must not let the criminale, eg ffg, his ghoulish sycophants go unscathed. On the meantime just saw post where ffg is likely to announce for 2024..and given that DOJ, AG Garland will go by the book ..not indict while elections are scheduled [midterm, general] something about a cooling off period (?) so as not to tip the scale in favor of any party. For fuck sake--that's just mierda!

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comradebillyboy

(10,154 posts)
9. Republicans gave up on conservatism a while back. Now they
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:02 AM
Jul 2022

are the party of resentment and grievance based populism.

slightlv

(2,823 posts)
11. Like I said earlier today
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:30 AM
Jul 2022

They're not in the U.S., they living already in the Confederate States of America. They're bringing back the old south and imposing it on all of us. If there's to be any kind of civil war now, it won't be fought like it was in the 1800s. It will be an urban war, similar to the time of troubles in Ireland and Britain. Lots of bombs and more mass shootings, maybe even some dirty bombs... all in the name of God, you understand. Very much asymmetric warfare.

I can see how they're gearing up for this already, or even thinking they're in the beginning stages of it... which may be why the SCOTUS is ruling quick and dirty like it's doing. There's a lot of dots here, and we're still stuck investigating just the first part of one. We need to speed things up without losing impact and without dropping evidence and we need to start sending some major players to court and then to jail.

That memo They blew off with Hillary better not play any part with TFG. Treason... even sedition... overrules running a campaign for anything IMNSHO. I'm on my phone. Forgive misspelling.

lark

(23,105 posts)
12. There is no "if", this has already happened.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:45 AM
Jul 2022

They are all furiously pushing the American Taliban policies of SCOTUS to take away all rights from women and in the future - minorities are squarely in their destructive sights.

BadGimp

(4,015 posts)
13. This is my favorite Quote to share...
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 04:17 PM
Jul 2022

My reply to his tweet:

"I've shared this quote of you your's David, Many Times! It is what I refer to as an #UltimateTruth"
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