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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,036 posts)
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 10:28 PM Jul 2022

Army Cuts Off More Than 60K Unvaccinated Guard and Reserve Soldiers from Pay and Benefits

Some 40,000 National Guard and 22,000 Reserve soldiers who refused to be vaccinated against COVID-19 are no longer allowed to participate in their military duties, also effectively cutting them off from some of their military benefits, Army officials announced Friday.

"Soldiers who refuse the vaccination order without an approved or pending exemption request are subject to adverse administrative actions, including flags, bars to service, and official reprimands," an Army spokesperson said in a statement.

The move comes in the midst of the annual training season, during which part-time soldiers are often ordered to serve from two weeks to a month with their units for summer training exercises. Those training events are usually critical for soldiers to sharpen their military skills and for unit commanders to ensure their formations are ready to deploy if needed.

If the soldiers continue to refuse the vaccine, the consequences could be even more dire.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/army-cuts-off-more-60k-144757586.html

I'm surprised they put up with them this long.

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Army Cuts Off More Than 60K Unvaccinated Guard and Reserve Soldiers from Pay and Benefits (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 OP
Every one of them did this, other than maybe a dozen or two, SOLELY because of something Eliot Rosewater Jul 2022 #1
About time, I'd say Hekate Jul 2022 #2
Well, that's one way to get out. They should be barred from future bennies, too. Baked Potato Jul 2022 #3
Not like they weren't warned captain queeg Jul 2022 #4
Go Army! grumpyduck Jul 2022 #5
when people enlist Skittles Jul 2022 #6
Good on the Army! Cha Jul 2022 #7
There goes a lot of GP6971 Jul 2022 #8
Militia duty now duckworth969 Jul 2022 #9
Great! Now they can join the Proud Boys! Bluesaph Jul 2022 #10
ReaLLY we may have weaned them out of US Military, Captain Zero Jul 2022 #25
choose to lose ZonkerHarris Jul 2022 #11
at least these people are already on a list. its never good to lose talent... FreepFryer Jul 2022 #12
Following orders is usually a requirement in the army dlk Jul 2022 #13
I have mixed feelings about this kimbutgar Jul 2022 #14
They bleed like Traildogbob Jul 2022 #19
+1, uponit7771 Jul 2022 #26
I have zero mixed feelings about this Dorian Gray Jul 2022 #29
Good. progressoid Jul 2022 #15
60,000 morons. Hope they get discharged. spudspud Jul 2022 #16
They deserve to be cut off. sakabatou Jul 2022 #17
++++++++++++++++++++++++ TeamProg Jul 2022 #18
No mercy Puppyjive Jul 2022 #20
Here's an executive order for Bidden to issue. Captain Zero Jul 2022 #27
Maybe there's a motive Shoonra Jul 2022 #21
Great point. C Moon Jul 2022 #22
Occam's Razor says no. They're just worthless assholes. nt hay rick Jul 2022 #23
In the 70s maybe but even infantry now isn't accepted unless they WANT to be infantry. US military uponit7771 Jul 2022 #28
We fixed the glitch... pecosbob Jul 2022 #24

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. Every one of them did this, other than maybe a dozen or two, SOLELY because of something
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 10:32 PM
Jul 2022

uttered by the stupidest human being on earth.

Jesus we are fucked.

duckworth969

(600 posts)
9. Militia duty now
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 11:25 PM
Jul 2022

Wonder many of them will take advantage of their military training and lead the next coup attempt?

Bluesaph

(703 posts)
10. Great! Now they can join the Proud Boys!
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 11:28 PM
Jul 2022

These are the most radical Trump humpers of our troops and it was a good way to weed them out.

Let’s just hope they are kept track of!!!

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
12. at least these people are already on a list. its never good to lose talent...
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:03 AM
Jul 2022

...but these people aren't making an educated decision here, and therefore ought not be armed and trained on our behalf.

dlk

(11,569 posts)
13. Following orders is usually a requirement in the army
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:03 AM
Jul 2022

How could they effectively function, otherwise, if orders are optional.

kimbutgar

(21,163 posts)
14. I have mixed feelings about this
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:16 AM
Jul 2022

The plus is they are getting rid of the MAgas, Qanon and white power types but now they are pissed and might be easier to be recruited and radicalized by the private mercenaries like that Blackwater Prince guy to assist the maggot in his next coup.

Traildogbob

(8,758 posts)
19. They bleed like
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:51 AM
Jul 2022

Anybody else. All those militias are still out numbered massively. Take arms against our country, face the mightiest military on earth. Maybe the new variant will wipe em out before that.
I have zero Doubt they will join trumps military against the States. If we are at war, treason death penalty applies.
This way we can cut the Pentagon budget.
I do not recall one single Sailor bitching about the dozens of shots we got prior to each 7 month deployment. We always said Army were not as tough.

Dorian Gray

(13,496 posts)
29. I have zero mixed feelings about this
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 05:17 AM
Jul 2022

the Military is all about respective the chain of command. Soldiers have to get vaccinated for all sorts of diseases. And if leadership allows exceptions for this one, then it'll call into question all the others.

They need to come down hard on this and let the chips fall where they may.

spudspud

(511 posts)
16. 60,000 morons. Hope they get discharged.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:39 AM
Jul 2022

Don't need a bunch of Cletus Fuckwits in the military who can't follow orders. Unfit.

Puppyjive

(503 posts)
20. No mercy
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:58 AM
Jul 2022

If they can't obey orders, they need to be discharged. I talked to an acquaintance the other day. She said her son just got out of the Air Force after serving 6 years. He got a general discharge for not getting vaccinated. He lost his GI bill but can apply for an honorable in a year. There is nothing honorable about disobedience.

Captain Zero

(6,811 posts)
27. Here's an executive order for Bidden to issue.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 05:08 AM
Jul 2022

Disallow these applications for Honorable Discharge for 1 year and move them out to 6 years.
Say that since this was a refusal of a command that effected military readiness it has to be delayed.

Also make the honorable revocable if they ever join an 'irregular militia.'

Shoonra

(523 posts)
21. Maybe there's a motive
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:58 AM
Jul 2022

This means 60,000 enlistees have figured out a way to avoid being deployed overseas and also possibly getting administrative discharges from service that may have been misrepresented by the recruiting officer.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
28. In the 70s maybe but even infantry now isn't accepted unless they WANT to be infantry. US military
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 05:08 AM
Jul 2022

... is on the good side of isn't what it used to be.

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