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Gaugamela

(2,496 posts)
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:26 AM Jul 2022

CNN -- Brittney Griner pleads guilty to drug charges in Russian court

Two-time US Olympic basketball gold medalist Brittney Griner has pleaded guilty to drug charges in a Russian court near Moscow, her lawyers confirmed to CNN on Thursday.

Griner, 31, faces up to 10 years in prison under the charge. She left the courtroom without giving any comment to reporters, and her next hearing is set for July 14.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/07/europe/brittney-griner-russia-pleads-guilty/index.html
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CNN -- Brittney Griner pleads guilty to drug charges in Russian court (Original Post) Gaugamela Jul 2022 OP
Ouch. It looks she admits that she had the vape cartridges in her luggage. CentralMass Jul 2022 #1
It's more likely than not she did. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2022 #2
Same. Stupidity is forgivable, evil is not. shrike3 Jul 2022 #5
Incredibly stupid act... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2022 #7
How true. n/t shrike3 Jul 2022 #8
Indeed MLAA Jul 2022 #17
Around 1% of people charged with crime in Russia are found innocent . CentralMass Jul 2022 #6
And an article I read SCantiGOP Jul 2022 #14
I agree. highplainsdem Jul 2022 #24
I wonder if this means a deal has been reached. MerryBlooms Jul 2022 #3
That's what I'm wondering, as well. GoCubsGo Jul 2022 #9
I am wondering that, too obamanut2012 Jul 2022 #10
Yea, this is unsettling. Karma13612 Jul 2022 #4
Hell, she travels a lot. She might have even forgotten they were in there. BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #13
Never forgetting that Russia is at war with us, attacking using various "asymmetrical" Hortensis Jul 2022 #19
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #11
Thanks for posting the clip. MerryBlooms Jul 2022 #12
This statement doesn't change my opinion of having no opinion about guilt. Hortensis Jul 2022 #15
Agreed. I expect she is acting on the advice of the US State Dept., and Gaugamela Jul 2022 #16
Think so too, and eventually. Hope it's fairly soon. Hortensis Jul 2022 #18
A friend told me if the WNBA paid as much as the NBA this wouldn't have been a problem ripcord Jul 2022 #20
Yes, but they could afford to pay them a little more. Elessar Zappa Jul 2022 #22
Since the NBA operates both, they could combine the players in the same bargaining unit MichMan Jul 2022 #23
The NBA subsidizes the WNBA. CentralMass Jul 2022 #27
She will probably be swapped for some Russian murderer MichMan Jul 2022 #21
Likely Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout. The judge who presided in the case Gaugamela Jul 2022 #25
Yeah, a Russian court. Any kangaroos present? Liberal In Texas Jul 2022 #26

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
1. Ouch. It looks she admits that she had the vape cartridges in her luggage.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:31 AM
Jul 2022

That doesn't bode well for any sort of quick release.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. It's more likely than not she did.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:33 AM
Jul 2022

That being said mercy is part and parcel of justice. I'm sure she's learned her lesson and I hope we can do a quick prisoner swap for her. As I posted on another board I have much more sympathy for people that do stupid things than people who do evil things.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. Incredibly stupid act...
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:42 AM
Jul 2022

Unfortunately some times the consequences of doing stupid things is as great or greater than doing evil things.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
6. Around 1% of people charged with crime in Russia are found innocent .
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:41 AM
Jul 2022

I went from being in the camp that thought the catrudgrs were planted and that she was innocent to she brought this on herself.
Putting it bluntly this was a stupid mistake. She must have been made aware of travel advuserarued and the risks of traveling to Russia.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
14. And an article I read
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:58 AM
Jul 2022

(I think it was in Vanity Fair) said the best strategy is to plead guilty. Judges just get mad if you assert innocence, and add to the sentence. With a 99% conviction rate you’re not convincing anyone of your innocence anyway.

On edit: the defense submits their case to the prosecutor, who decides what to include in their filing. The judge then reads that into the record, questions the defendant, and renders the decision and sentence. They said judges who have a conviction rate in the low 90s may be replaced.

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
10. I am wondering that, too
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:47 AM
Jul 2022

They will "allow" her to plead guilty, then exchange her for that arms dealer we have.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
4. Yea, this is unsettling.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:34 AM
Jul 2022

Wonder if they convinced her it would be better to plead guilty and hope for much less than 10 years?

Heavens….

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
13. Hell, she travels a lot. She might have even forgotten they were in there.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:58 AM
Jul 2022

A horrible thing, but so easy to have happen.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Never forgetting that Russia is at war with us, attacking using various "asymmetrical"
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:26 AM
Jul 2022

warfare tactics and illegitimate foreign policies. Russia has been arresting foreigners for leverage and as attacks on their governments for...ever. SOP.

So this detainment of a world-famous American athlete, black, lesbian, and known to use drugs, is taking place within that reality. From what I've read about Russia's activities, almost certainly Putin himself made the decision to arrest and try Griner.

Guilty or innocent of the charges she's been tried on, this isn't about that.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. This statement doesn't change my opinion of having no opinion about guilt.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:02 AM
Jul 2022

Not by someone trapped in the Russian "justice" system. Even in ours innocent people sometimes plead guilty.

Our government's position after whatever investigation we could do is that Griner is wrongfulliy detained.

Gaugamela

(2,496 posts)
16. Agreed. I expect she is acting on the advice of the US State Dept., and
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:12 AM
Jul 2022

putting herself in a position of at least some leniency if a swap can’t be negotiated. I’m fairly optimistic a prisoner swap will happen.

ripcord

(5,409 posts)
20. A friend told me if the WNBA paid as much as the NBA this wouldn't have been a problem
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:27 AM
Jul 2022

I pointed out that the WNBA doesn't make money because people don't enjoy watching it anywhere near as much as the NBA, the NBA takes in over $7 billion a year while the WNBA earns $60 million a year and cost $70 million to run so they can't afford to pay equal salaries.

MichMan

(11,938 posts)
23. Since the NBA operates both, they could combine the players in the same bargaining unit
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:57 AM
Jul 2022

and split the pool of money more equitably. Typically money from TV contracts, league sponsorships, merchandise etc. are pooled and divided equally to the teams and flows from there to the players. The league sets minimum salaries, not the teams.

That might mean however, that the top NBA players like a Stephen Curry might have to figure out how to survive on earning only $30 million a year instead of $40 million.

MichMan

(11,938 posts)
21. She will probably be swapped for some Russian murderer
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:50 AM
Jul 2022

Who will then go back to Russia to continue killing more people.

Gaugamela

(2,496 posts)
25. Likely Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout. The judge who presided in the case
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:04 PM
Jul 2022

supports the exchange.

“There’s a problem with releasing a convicted arms trafficker for Griner, whose drug possession would probably only be a fine in the U.S.,” says Shira Scheindlin, the retired federal judge who presided over the Bout trial and was required to sentence him to the 25-year mandatory minimum. “It would be better if Bout – who has already served too much time in my opinion – was exchanged for both Brittney Griner and Paul Whelan. Then there would be some moral equivalency about which few could complain.”


https://www.forbes.com/sites/geraldposner/2022/05/19/brittney-griner-involved-in-possible-prisoner-swap-with-russia/?sh=4742e8b93d2d

Liberal In Texas

(13,556 posts)
26. Yeah, a Russian court. Any kangaroos present?
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:07 PM
Jul 2022

She was probably put under extreme pressure to plead guilty. She might have wanted to keep being fed once in awhile in the jail. Or didn't want any more beatings.

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