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Trump questions whether a future a president can have 'candid' conversations with a White House counsel after Pat Cipollone agrees to testify before the January 6 committee
Former President Donald Trump on Wednesday said it is "so bad" for the country and the future of the presidency that one of his former White House counsels is cooperating with the congressional probe into the Capitol riot.
"Why would a future President of the United States want to have candid and important conversations with his White House Counsel if he thought there was even a small chance that this person, essentially acting as a 'lawyer' for the Country, may some day be brought before a partisan and openly hostile Committee in Congress, or even a fair and reasonable Committee, to reveal the inner secrets of foreign policy or other important matters," Trump wrote on his social media platform, Truth Social. "So bad for the USA!"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-questions-whether-a-future-a-president-can-have-candid-conversations-with-a-white-house-counsel-after-pat-cipollone-agrees-to-testify-before-the-january-6-committee/ar-AAZk2Il?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c6f3613047c44f0a9f6e8427fa245ddc
When 'candid' is criminal... You get jack shit in the way of privacy and your secrets get revealed.
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)Maybe just avoid candid conversations about crimes you are actively engaged in?
mopinko
(70,127 posts)Girard442
(6,076 posts)...then hit men will all get law degrees.
You'd like that, wouldn't you, Donnie.
patphil
(6,182 posts)It can only be related to those who have the proper clearance. And, of course, Trump doesn't care about that kind of information.
Besides, inner secrets of foreign policy should already be known to Congress.
His only interest lies in the exposure of information that is embarrassing to him, or actually of a criminal nature.
KPN
(15,646 posts)about conversations to plan criminal and traitorous activities?
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,672 posts)no problems you idiot.
When has Trump ever been fucking candid, you loser !!!!
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)Which is why we are here now and Cipollone is planning to testify about Trump's "candid" admissions to wanting to do crimes. Trump thought that everyone he hired was as crooked as he was. He didn't count on people having a certain line (even if the line is self preservation).
Trump has the mentality of a criminal and as such, he thinks that everyone else has that same mentality. He can't understand that people choose to do good simply because it is the correct thing to do and it benefits humanity as a whole. Literally, he cannot understand that concept. He is damaged beyond repair or redemption.
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,672 posts)he couldn't understand that attorney client/privilege does not apply.
You nailed it.
The same reasons I'm upset that nobody prosecuted Nixon are the same reasons we are going to have a hard time prosecuting Trump and he is much worse then Nixon.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)Only a few Presidents in American History seemed to have had this problem Trump. Richard Nixon and You stand out most. Perhaps that is because, while likely every single other President had controversial discussions with their White House Counsel, they were not looking to break laws like you and Nixon did. They weren't looking into how to stage a successful coup. They were likely looking at how to advance policies without damaging the Office of the President.
You are simply a two bit crook, that happened to be born into wealth, therefore you didn't end up dead or in prison, like you would have if you had not been born wealthy. You have been protected all your life, from yourself. You thought that you could continue to be a crook and that it was normal to be a crook and everyone was trying to be a crook. You don't understand that the White House Counsel is not your personal mob lawyer or fixer. The job of the White House Counsel is to help the President do things WITHOUT damaging the reputation of the OFFICE.
No other President seems to have had that much difficulty navigating that idea. They certainly had policies and programs where they may have overstepped their boundaries. I am sure that other White House Counsels warned their President to avoid certain acts. The difference is that those acts weren't explicitly criminal, like yours were, like Nixon's were.
I am absolutely sure, that President Biden is not staying up at night worrying that his White House Counsel is going to reveal criminal activity, BECAUSE PRESIDENT BIDEN ISN"T DOING ANYTHING CRIMINAL TO WORRY ABOUT. He is simply trying to serve the American People and upholding his oath to the Constitution.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)Lawyers for the country are not lawyers for the President. Even the White House Counsel does not have its occupant for a client. No harmful precedent is set when the government wants to hear about a conversation its lawyer had with some mope on the premises.
And of course by 'candid discussions' is meant furtherance of criminal conspiracy by giving it an egg-wash of legality sufficient to sustain the moment till law itself is set at naught. But that's too obvious to require remarking on.
kentuck
(111,103 posts)He was the "only" White House Counsel. Not his personal lawyer but there to protect the White House and the Executive Branch.
Midnight Writer
(21,768 posts)He overrode warnings from our security agencies that unreliable and suspicious people were being given access to top secret information.
He let his guests at Mar-A-Lago watch as he communicated with his Administration's military and security apparatus.
He installed Mike Flynn as National Security Adviser, a man who took money from Putin and was on the payroll of the Turkish government, a man who lied about his involvement with our international enemies, a man who was on the phone reporting into the Russian Ambassador as Trump was being sworn in to office.
And NOW he's worried about the security of our governments classified and secret information?
onethatcares
(16,172 posts)"officers of the court" and even though they had lawyer/client privilege they couldn't sit idly by while a crime is being planned in their presence.
Or maybe I'm mistaken.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)That doesn't make it so.
keep_left
(1,784 posts)...the White House counsel is his own private, personal attorney. All the more reason we need a return to civics education in the schools. Not that it would help Drumpf understand his country, but it might have helped to prevent his election.