And Here We Are Starting All Over Again

[ItsjustMe]

[SheltieLover]

1. K&R!

[AllTooEasy]

25. Ohhh, so White women need Black women again?!

I love Gloria's line "start voting as a unit". How about White women "start voting as Black, Latino, and Asian MEN do"? Men who voted overwhelmly for Hillary, respectively %81, %65, %76. Minority women, even more so:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/

https://aapr.hkspublications.org/2018/11/06/the-asian-american-vote-2016-a-report-by-the-asian-american-legal-defense-and-education-fund/

The first link shows that more White women voted for Trump (%47-%45) in 2016. So, after gaining their rights, then abandoning minority women to vote for bigoted policies ("Build the Wall", "All Lives Matter", "Affirmative Action is reverse racism", etc.), and then losing rights to an anti-choice SCOTUS...now it's "C'mon Sisters of Color, let's all stand together against the patriarchy!".

They've been standing. They also know who "the Patriarchy" really is - White Americans. Period. Don't worry, minority women (AND MEN) will passionately stand up with ya for reproductive rights. How long will this newly found, "deeper than race" sisterhood last after Roe is re-established?

[rzemanfl]

28. Bookmarking. n/t

[electric_blue68]

35. Too Many White Women - But NOT All

[jimfields33]

2. Gloria is amazing for 88 years old.

Hard to believe. Keep up the fight.

[AmBlue]

3. K&R

[cilla4progress]

4. Gorgeous post,

thank you!

[Casandia]

5. fyi

Gloria Steinem and Dorothy Pitman Hughes

[slightlv]

6. Yes, it's inspiring

as it's meant to be. But I look at the two sets of pictures. I look in the mirror. And I think... this AGAIN?! Some of us never stopped talking or working or warning. What the hell happened to everybody else? How did we get here? Did everybody just stop listening and take it all for granted? Did fantasyland just come into everybody's existence? Granted, these two somehow aged a hell of a lot better than I did. Lupus and Fibro did a number on my body I guess. I lived a full life and it shows in every line of my face (gryn). I told my neurologist just yesterday that as I was hitting adolescence we had "Our Bodies... Ourselves" but nobody handed me a book as I was hitting perimenopause to warn me what was coming. The closest I got was Eve Ensler's play "V" the Monologues (and he turned red!).

Seriously... I wish I could do what I did back then. But the work will have to change to more sedentary (and less exciting), I'm afraid for now. But I do wish more of us had kept up the warning through the decades and more had listened to us.

I remember getting so mad at all the times I read those like me who tried to raise the warnings in forums, who were told it wasn't the time yet, or things weren't so bad. Or that "this or that" took precedence right then. It just seemed like it was never time for women's concerns to be taken seriously, until women's concerns were taken off the table completely. And so now here we are. And dammit, my comma key has decided it's not going to work unless I bang the heck out of it!

[electric_blue68]

36. Me and my sis went to Choice Marches in DC, and the NYC Women's Marches till covid...

besides voting Democrats in all elections. Occasionally campaign, organizations donations.

[gademocrat7]

7. K&R!

[FakeNoose]

8. I'm pretty sure the Angela Davis photo is 'shopped

Wikipedia shows Angela Davis from 2019:


The other one might be the real Gloria Steinem but ... (looks kind of fake)

[LoisB]

13. That is definitely not Angela Davis. Neither the younger photo nor the older one.

[Celerity]

16. it's Dorothy Pitman Hughes, the co-founder of Ms. Magazine

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216898765#post15

[LoisB]

17. Thank you. I did not know her name but I knew it wasn't Angela Davis.

[Celerity]

15. it's Dorothy Pitman Hughes, the co-founder of Ms. Magazine, not Angela Davis

[llmart]

19. What?

I can assure you that the pic of Gloria Steinem isn't "fake". You must be a younger person or someone who doesn't even know much about her.

I saw her speak when she was in her mid-70's and she came out on stage in all black leather. She spoke as passionately and lively as she did in her younger years.

[Fiendish Thingy]

23. Nobody is claiming it's Angela Davis. Nt

[niyad]

29. Had you read the replies above yours, you would have known that your

blyth assumption that the woman on the right is Dr. Angela Davis is incorrect. Why the assumption that the images are fake? What is the point?

Actually, perhaps you could remove your post.

[Evolve Dammit]

9. Solid.

[onetexan]

10. I'm w Sonia. OK Lets fight!!

[highplainsdem]

11. K&R!

[Hekate]

12. Kick!

[Joinfortmill]

14. Me too, sister

[Demobrat]

18. I wonder what all the young women who have

said to me “I’m not a feminist” over the years are thinking now. Are they thinking it’s fine if abortion is illegal because pregnancy is a great way to opt out of the workforce?

Sorry, not sorry. Statements like that just make me so mad. I would usually reply something like “You don’t have to be. My generation did it for you”. Not that I had any hope they would get it.

Because they came into the workforce after Anita Hill, when sexism at work went underground.

Now - they’re going to have to stop fucking around - or find out. My generation is tired. It’s their turn now.

I expect flames for this. I don’t care.

[llmart]

21. No flames from me.

Honestly, I've heard a lot of that crap from younger women. I worked at two different institutions of higher learning and students worked for me. Some of the stuff they would tell me would infuriate me. I got the impression that they took all their opportunities for granted. I worked at a law school where more than half the students were women. It never occurred to them that there was a time in recent history that if you knew a female attorney she was an exception. Same goes for doctors.

[Demobrat]

34. I've spent my career in advertising agencies and

corporate marketing departments, working with mostly college educated women who have no idea that before 1974 they could not have had a credit card in their own name.

Or. Or. Or.

[betsuni]

37. +1

[niyad]

20. I have NEVER stopped. I am f'n EXHAUSTED, but I WILL NEVER STOP!!!!

[CaptainTruth]

24. You & me both.

[calimary]

42. Right there with ya, niyad!

[gibraltar72]

22. Every God Damn faction of we liberals

has to pull together. Hash the liberal issues out after they can be acted upon. The alternative is a truly frightening future.

[calimary]

26. Fists up, Females! Fists UP!

[IronLionZion]

27. Liberal women

because they probably won't like the way conservative Amy Coney Barrett types vote.

[spike jones]

30. For issues like social justice and the environment, gains you make can always be reversed in later

years. The only way to win is to continue to fight. And to teach your children well.

[BlueJac]

31. K&R

[Wild blueberry]

32. Kick!

Thank you

[Boomerproud]

33. As many of you have pointed out...where are the younger women?

?

[betsuni]

38. K&R

[AverageOldGuy]

39. My daughter has a very well-made sign that she carries to her marches:

It reads:

My grandmother marched.
My mother marched.
And here I am still protesting this shit.

[calimary]

43. Saw a sign years ago held by a woman:

“I can’t believe I still have to protest this shit!”

It keeps popping up, through the years.

[uponit7771]

40. K&R,

[burrowowl]

41. K&R!!!!!

[lark]

44. I'm with Sotomayor and those women!

[BumRushDaShow]

45. When Ms. magazine first started publication

my mom got a subscription to it and when Gloria Steinem was in town at a speaking engagement (I think it may have even been in my neighborhood), my mom attended it.

I always told her that her generation were "quiet radicals' (she would have been 92 this year).

[Hermit-The-Prog]

46. The Subversive Court is an aberration and we must correct it.