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"What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun."
-- Ecclesiastes 1: 9 ("The Preacher" )
I am going to guess that no one here was shocked to learn that the Trump administration used the IRS to go after their "enemies." While others were obviously involved, we can be damned sure that Trump had demanded this happen, for it is his reptilian nature to want to punish his opposition. And he understands the IRS can cause people discomfort.
The Trump administration was not the first to be accused of this abuse of power. But he may be only the second who committed "indictable crimes." The other one was Richard Nixon; his abuse became one of the Articles of Impeachment passed by the House Judiciary Committee.
https://www.nytimes.com/1974/06/14/archives/an-explanation-the-allegatoins-of-nixons-irs-interference-many.html
I think the other possibility was when the IRS audited the NAACP in 2004, after its chairman, Julian Bond, gave a speech attacking the president for his war in Iraq and war on public education. (Note: if younger readers are not familiar with Julian Bond, do yourself a favor and do some resarch on him. I think he was among the greatest of his generation.)
In this case, it is obvious that Trump committed crimes by violating Section 7212 of the Internal Revenue Code, the same as Nixon had.
Now, let's turn our attention to another repulsive character, one easy to recognize from the fecal stain on his face, the result of humiliating himself over and again by kissing Trump's ass. Yes, Lindsey Graham, recently identified as one of "the most pathetic men in America."
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/kevin-mccarthy-lindsey-graham-trump-devotion-2024-election/661508/
Like other spineless republicans, Lindsey does not wish to cooperate with a subpoena from the grand jury investigation of "election meddling" in Georgia. Nothing says, "I have nothing to hide" quite like refusing to answer questions from a grand jury. One thinks of General Flynn's taking the 5th when asked if he believed in the peaceful transfer of power. I reckon that Lindsey's not wanting to testify ilustrates, in a curious way, an awareness of the power of truth. Yet he is in for a reckoning, in the archaic sense of the word, if he thinks that will work.
This Georgia grand jury is an investigative one, and these ones have a much greater power to compel both access to documents and testimony than a congressional committee. This is because, rather than only having the powers of one of the three branches of government, they are not only part of the executive by way of prosecutors, but also viewed as under the judiciary, as a judge oversees the grand jury.
Now, it has been said that one in ten attornies graduated in the lowest ten percent of their class. But even the least talented lawyer does not want a guilty client to give statements to law enforcement, much less testify. The choice is ultimately up to the client, and those that take the stand despite their lawyer's advice tend to be as unsuccessful as criminals who represent themselves in court.
Poor Lindsey may try to delay having to testify. But, unlike a congressional committe making a referral to the DOJ, there is a judge involved, who will not tolerate Graham's shit.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)the Atlantic article was very clarifying:
Graham and McCarthy are the same drooling sicko-fantz that have been around since time immemorial.
What's less clear is the way out and through.
There doesn't seem to be much of a market for courage and honor.
Legacy, indeed....
Depressing.
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)Graham is as pathetic an excuse for a human being as is Ted Cruz.
Glad you liked the Atlantic article. I can't help but think DUers should e-mail it to Lindsey's office, to be sure they see it.
Nevilledog
(51,122 posts)H2O Man
(73,559 posts)Neither is Graham. Political science has designated them a new form of eukaryote species of non-athletes foot fungi.
Nevilledog
(51,122 posts)Ohio Joe
(21,758 posts)Id like to see him grow a spine and talk
Just lay out the truth and be done with selling his soul.
Its the least bad way for him. At least he gets a shred of dignity back and I bet the DOJ gives him a deal so he doesnt die in prison.
with you on this. But I think he is perhaps more likely to spill his guts out of cowardice. I don't think he will get any deal in Georgia, and he isn't the type to take personal responsibility. He's the tattletale we all hated from grade school on.
Saoirse9
(3,680 posts)He loved Joe Biden and said so. Said if you can't admire Joe Biden something is wrong with you. . . . as good a man as God ever created.
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Now I'm off to go read that article from the Atlantic.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)is to hang out with the cool kids.
Whoever is "in" at the moment...
Saoirse9
(3,680 posts)Now I really need to read the article!
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)who lurks on DU e-mailed me after reading this to say that McCain must be rolling over in his grave.
Graham was able to appear "almost decent" because it was in a time with only the normal duties involved in being a senator. But once the pressures to take a bold stance in the face of a threat, he folded. His true essence rose to the surface.
Saoirse9
(3,680 posts)blows my theory about Graham right out of the water. I have always assumed that TFG "had something" on Graham and that is what caused the about face. I've always thought he was blackmailed.
He wasn't. He's just a spineless toad who lost his person to toady up to when McCain got sick and died.
After reading the article I have an even lower opinion of Lady Lindsey than I did before.
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)He was the junior partner in his relationship with McCain. And he was very comfortable in that position. Indeed, when he ran for president, it was 100% in hopes of being picked as a stronger man's vice president.
This tendency made him vulnerable to Trump's alpha act. Remember Trump giving out Lindsey's cell phone number? Graham didn't fight back -- he submitted to a position lower than that of a beta. A water carrier willing, even eager, to humiliate himself for a verbal pat on his humbly bowed head.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)H2O Man
(73,559 posts)I was not aware that one of our friends had posted it on DU:GD a while before I wrote this. Good it is found in a couple places, though.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)H2O Man
(73,559 posts)I am unaware of any good answer. He should be incarcerated, along with at least three of his kids.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,355 posts)Will the snarling Lindsey Graham from the Kavanaugh hearings manifest itself before the grand jury? Will he threaten them as he did Democratic nominees of the then-future?
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)when a distant person spouted nonsense about having greater boxing skills, Rubin Carter replying, "Even a trembling chihuahua dares to bark at a mighty lion, if it's on a television screen." Snarling Lindsey was that chihuahua. Still is.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,355 posts)I would not put a chihuahua down to Lindsey's level. A chihuahua once chased the teenage me up onto a piano stool (they have needle-like teeth). On the other hand, I did see a trembling one once; it cowered when I simply tried to pet it.
Graham's performance during Kavanaugh's hearing before the judiciary committee was over the top. It makes me want to see him testifying in a criminal trial where he has some precious stake in the outcome. (Whatever he does in front of a grand jury will likely never be made public).
I confess to not even hearing about Rubin Carter until Bob Dylan came out with "Hurricane". The song was so detailed it just had to be based in fact, but there was no Internet at the time to turn to for confirmation. It remained mostly a nagging mystery to me for years.
The following may be the "official audio", but the vinyl sounds better to me.
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)Dylan wrote the first sentence, then had a writer's block. Jacques Levy, a psychologist and musician, wrote the rest of the lyrics. He also wrote the song "Joey" from that album, about Joey Gallo.
On some boxing forums, I still encounter a few people who insist Rubin was guilty. One shallow-minded fellow recently said that Rubin "never proved he was innocent in court." I reminded him of two things: in our court system, no defendant is ever found "innocent," and in recent years, the actual guy with the shotgun confessed to the crime on his death bed. And he identified the second guy, and it was not John Artis. Their identities came as no surprise to those of us who supported Rubin & John's defense efforts.