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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCalifornia is going to make its own insulin.
@GavinNewsom
Governor candidate, CA
California is going to make its own insulin.
Its simple. People should not go into debt to get life-saving medication.
Link to tweet
Lovie777
(12,278 posts)dalton99a
(81,516 posts)Make it cheap and plentiful
It is not rocket science
YoshidaYui
(41,832 posts)I LOVE MY STATE!
vanlassie
(5,676 posts)YoshidaYui
(41,832 posts)% **
PortTack
(32,778 posts)Initech
(100,081 posts)tinrobot
(10,903 posts)What a brilliant move, both for Californians and politically.
onecaliberal
(32,864 posts)I hope other blue states will take a page. I also hope California doesnt stop there, but will continue to innovate and show the world a better standard of living that helps everyone.
wnylib
(21,491 posts)They could become the insulin center of the country.
onecaliberal
(32,864 posts)Im excited for what this can turn into.
ShazzieB
(16,426 posts)If enough people did that, the big pharma companies would be FORCED to lower their prices.
Huit them right where it hurts: in the pocketbook!
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)they'll probably focus on the need in-state first.
Still a great idea!
onecaliberal
(32,864 posts)tishaLA
(14,176 posts)and smaller states would never be able to do it for the prices CA does, so it'd be nice if we made enough to sell it to other states that wanted to make large purchases.
And naturally the first thing Abbott and DeSantis would do is outlaw purchasing medications from CA under the pretense that they aren't safe.
onecaliberal
(32,864 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Yes, you heard it here. I love Gavin Newson. I am so tired of people ragging on him. He's doing great things!
I believe Governor Newson will be president one day!
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Given the life-saving necessity of this drug, and it's being out of patent protection, and the lack of price competition, this seems like a great move.
Democrats do best when we embrace competition and think innovatively.
This is both good policy and good politics.
Bravo Gov. Newsom.
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)Again!
MsLeopard
(1,265 posts)And am so happy to live here for my granddaughters sake.
malthaussen
(17,204 posts)Same stuff, by prescription charged to insurance company: $165.00. I can verify this, since I got the very stuff yesterday with my new insurance and that was the price they charged them. My co-pay was 4 bucks.
I have no sympathy at all for insurance companies, but that is ridiculous.
-- Mal
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Also under Humana Advantage (which is free) my monthly insulin is capped at $ 35/month
I think there is a huge disparity between D - 1 and D - 2 costs.
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)They can make millions of doses of Oxycontin without batting an eye. But they can't make a life-saving product that's needed everywhere by multitudes of people.
What a horrible country we've become!
Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)There are outrageous markups on epi pens too. People with allergies must always have one on hand. They usually have a couple at a time, located at different places, such as the home, purse, etc.
TheRickles
(2,066 posts)leftieNanner
(15,124 posts)She was CEO of the company that manufactures the Epi Pen.
iluvtennis
(19,863 posts)EnterwebsJohn
(87 posts)Sogo
(4,986 posts)Between this and his ads in Florida, he's revving up for a Presidential run some day....
Hekate
(90,714 posts)RedSpartan
(1,693 posts)You can hear the right-wing nut jobs now. Delicious.
azureblue
(2,146 posts)in the taker states... the states with higher death rates. with higher rates of obesity. with higher need for insulin. and that will never dawn on the RW voters
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)When the market fails the citizens, the government has a duty to step in and provide necessities.
NBachers
(17,122 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,303 posts)prohibiting their citizens from buying it.
rurallib
(62,423 posts)dchill
(38,505 posts)ESPECIALLY the red states. What is it that they're not getting?
ultralite001
(894 posts)Best, and Collip were awarded the American patents for insulin which they sold to the University of Toronto for $1.00 each.
[link:|]
About the sale of the patent of insulin for $1, Banting reportedly said,
Insulin belongs to the world, not to me.
For more of this story:
[link:https://bantinghousenhs.ca/2018/12/14/insulin-patent-sold-for-1/|]
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Of course it helped sell his almanac
Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)It is not perfect, but is as functional now as it was then, and provides an affordable option (albeit with much more hassle).
What is very expensive now are insulin analogs (synthetic insulins), which are not covered by the patent. It is easier to control diabetes using insulin analogs than it is with human insulin.
dalton99a
(81,516 posts)kimbutgar
(21,163 posts)I laughed today that someone said he couldnt be president because he had an affair while he was married the first time not knowing His wife was cheating on him not long after they got married and tell me again how many times has TFG cheated on his wives?
flying_wahini
(6,606 posts)The drug store charged him a Thousand dollars for it. Its been about 7 years ago, but still.
calimary
(81,322 posts)Too many of your ideas are too good not to go national!
Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)My daughter is on a biologic which costs $200,000/year. It is no longer keeping her IBD in check, so she may have to halve the interval, doubling the costs to $400,000/year.
Neither insulin nor the biologic my daughter is taking are the only exorbitantly expensive life-saving medications.
While the very expensive insulin is preferred, earlier insulins are functional and far cheaper - why focus on insulin (which has a functional and affordable option) rather than other way more expensive medications for which there are no functional or affordable equivalents.
I have T1 insulin diabetics in my family and among friends and relatives - as well as a number of people who take biologics, or other expensive drugs. So I know both sides of this dichotomy.
I am also living with two cancers - and the "sexy" - less deadly one gets far more public attention and freebies than does the far more aggressive and deadly one. For example - I could have had a free breast reconstruction for not only to fix the invisible-when-I-am-wearing-clothes indent the breast from which they removed the tumor - but the other breast, as well, to make them match. Reconstruction of both breasts is treated as medically necessary and insurance has to pay for it (by law). BUT insurance treats as a cosmetic imperfection my 2.5" diameter "shark bite" with heavy stitching scars to 3.5" on my forearm which is visible every time I wear short sleeves. If I want it less obvious, I have to pay for the surgery to repair the damage left by the surgery to remove the tumor.
Sorry for kicking a gift horse in the teeth - but I'm tired of rare/orphan diseases, or less sexy diseases, receiving less medical care - and being subjected to different rules for insurance coverage.
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)Only one person in the thread outright crapped all over the idea. A good sign, I think.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)I wonder if CA will become the new Capitol... We may be 3 hours behind DC, but we are leagues ahead of the country where it counts.
calimary
(81,322 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 8, 2022, 04:02 PM - Edit history (1)
And thats likely to be a boost to the California economy.
Truth_Serum
(14 posts)and I wholeheartedly hope it comes to fruition. I've been an RN for 30 years....and the stories I could tell!! I've thought for DECADES that the gov't should go into making critical items that people need, especially for their health, due to companies that are charging extortion prices and basically killing people.
I think the gov't should cut the patents way down in terms of years/when generics can be produced, especially since the NIH is the worlds largest government funder of biomedical research.
I also think the gov't should be making a handful of critical medications, such as insulin, biologics - especially due to extreme price gouging, emergency medications like Epipens, orphan drugs [some may need to Google that] chemo drugs, and my real pet peeve - fluids like Normal Saline, Lactated Ringers [a.k.a. Ringer's Lactate] due to those companies price gouging and having "supply issues."
I'd even be happy for the gov't to get into baby formula production so another shortage like the one going on now never happens again. Think of all the jobs that would be created with everything I've just listed in this comment.
I know this is all "Pollyanna"-ish and almost 99% of my wish list will never happen. But that still doesn't stop me from wanting it to happen. I also wish for things like universal healthcare, guaranteed maternity/paternity leave, universal preschool, college or trade schools fully funded, guaranteed time off, etc. Basically, I should have been born in a Scandinavian country, lol.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)The State of California is going to contract with a manufacturer to produce it.
Truth_Serum
(14 posts)Still wish they would get into the manufacturing side of it, along with the other things I mentioned in my post. Wishful thinking!
Magoo48
(4,716 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Her school was eager to offer her support through its own practices in the public schools. This is exactly what she needs going forward.