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California is going to make its own insulin. (Original Post) In It to Win It Jul 2022 OP
K & R . . . Lovie777 Jul 2022 #1
Brilliant idea. dalton99a Jul 2022 #2
I LOVE my city YoshidaYui Jul 2022 #3
Me too!!!💃☀️🌈🚃😎 vanlassie Jul 2022 #11
YAY!! YoshidaYui Jul 2022 #37
Great idea.....Hope other blue states will follow! PortTack Jul 2022 #4
Proud to have Gavin as my governor! Initech Jul 2022 #5
This guy really needs to be president. tinrobot Jul 2022 #6
Hell to the yes. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #7
I hope they sell to out of state people. wnylib Jul 2022 #24
I hope they do too! The more the merrier. This is brilliant on so many levels. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #25
My God, yes! ShazzieB Jul 2022 #29
Might take a while for that... Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #34
Others can hopefully duplicate what we're doing here. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #47
Yup. CA is able to do it feasibly because we have so many people tishaLA Jul 2022 #42
Even though millions of Californians will be safely taking it. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #48
I really love my state and my governor! Control-Z Jul 2022 #8
Innovative act to make things work! That's the way our government should be. The Wielding Truth Jul 2022 #9
More accurately, CA is going to contract for the manufacture of insulin. Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #10
Gov. Newsom is 🎯. BadgerMom Jul 2022 #12
I love my state MsLeopard Jul 2022 #13
Novalin 70/30 OTC at Walmart, 25 bucks. malthaussen Jul 2022 #14
And you don't have to have a prescription. (I use it as a supplemental when glucose spikes) grantcart Jul 2022 #36
Shame on the American pharmaceutical companies FakeNoose Jul 2022 #15
Next: epi pens Sanity Claws Jul 2022 #16
Joe Manchin's daughter was behind that one. TheRickles Jul 2022 #19
Thanks to Joe Manchins daughter leftieNanner Jul 2022 #20
Love it - my home state does good stuff for people. iluvtennis Jul 2022 #17
Calinsulin - the new public utility. nt EnterwebsJohn Jul 2022 #18
Impressive Governor! Sogo Jul 2022 #21
YES! My gov is brilliant Hekate Jul 2022 #22
SOCIALISM! RedSpartan Jul 2022 #23
the right wing azureblue Jul 2022 #26
GMTA...my first thought also... Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #33
But think of the poor Pharma bro! NBachers Jul 2022 #27
Cue the red states passing laws Mr.Bill Jul 2022 #28
or some kind of lawsuit that the SCOTUS will take up right away rurallib Jul 2022 #31
What can I say. EVERY state needs a governor like him! dchill Jul 2022 #30
On January 23rd, 1923, Banting... ultralite001 Jul 2022 #32
Ben Franklin refused to patent the lightning rod grantcart Jul 2022 #38
That insulin can currently be purchased for around $25 at Walmart, and many other places. Ms. Toad Jul 2022 #43
+1 dalton99a Jul 2022 #44
He was a great mayor and happy he's now our governor. kimbutgar Jul 2022 #35
A friend from New Zealand arrived in California and had lost his bottle of insulin. flying_wahini Jul 2022 #39
Gavin! Run for President! calimary Jul 2022 #40
Wonder if he will implement the same measures for all other life-saving medicine Ms. Toad Jul 2022 #41
This seems pretty popular BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #45
Newsom is going to get a lot of orders from around the whole country. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2022 #46
Yes indeed! West is Best. calimary Jul 2022 #49
I'm very happy a politician is talking about this Truth_Serum Jul 2022 #50
The CA state government will not be making the insulin. Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #51
Yeah, I know that Truth_Serum Jul 2022 #52
Once again, happy to be a relatively free Californian. Magoo48 Jul 2022 #53
I am SO GLAD that my transgendered grandchild lives there and will go to a state college there. CTyankee Jul 2022 #54
Next, do epipens. (This is a happy, cheering 'whatabout') :) Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #55

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
7. Hell to the yes.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 04:22 PM
Jul 2022

I hope other blue states will take a page. I also hope California doesn’t stop there, but will continue to innovate and show the world a better standard of living that helps everyone.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
25. I hope they do too! The more the merrier. This is brilliant on so many levels.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 05:28 PM
Jul 2022

I’m excited for what this can turn into.

ShazzieB

(16,426 posts)
29. My God, yes!
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 05:48 PM
Jul 2022

If enough people did that, the big pharma companies would be FORCED to lower their prices.

Huit them right where it hurts: in the pocketbook!

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
34. Might take a while for that...
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 06:02 PM
Jul 2022

they'll probably focus on the need in-state first.

Still a great idea!

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
42. Yup. CA is able to do it feasibly because we have so many people
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 06:27 PM
Jul 2022

and smaller states would never be able to do it for the prices CA does, so it'd be nice if we made enough to sell it to other states that wanted to make large purchases.

And naturally the first thing Abbott and DeSantis would do is outlaw purchasing medications from CA under the pretense that they aren't safe.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
8. I really love my state and my governor!
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 04:23 PM
Jul 2022

Yes, you heard it here. I love Gavin Newson. I am so tired of people ragging on him. He's doing great things!

I believe Governor Newson will be president one day!

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
10. More accurately, CA is going to contract for the manufacture of insulin.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 04:37 PM
Jul 2022

Given the life-saving necessity of this drug, and it's being out of patent protection, and the lack of price competition, this seems like a great move.

Democrats do best when we embrace competition and think innovatively.

This is both good policy and good politics.

Bravo Gov. Newsom.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
14. Novalin 70/30 OTC at Walmart, 25 bucks.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 04:58 PM
Jul 2022

Same stuff, by prescription charged to insurance company: $165.00. I can verify this, since I got the very stuff yesterday with my new insurance and that was the price they charged them. My co-pay was 4 bucks.

I have no sympathy at all for insurance companies, but that is ridiculous.

-- Mal

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
36. And you don't have to have a prescription. (I use it as a supplemental when glucose spikes)
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 06:09 PM
Jul 2022

Also under Humana Advantage (which is free) my monthly insulin is capped at $ 35/month

I think there is a huge disparity between D - 1 and D - 2 costs.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
15. Shame on the American pharmaceutical companies
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 05:02 PM
Jul 2022

They can make millions of doses of Oxycontin without batting an eye. But they can't make a life-saving product that's needed everywhere by multitudes of people.

What a horrible country we've become!

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
16. Next: epi pens
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 05:09 PM
Jul 2022

There are outrageous markups on epi pens too. People with allergies must always have one on hand. They usually have a couple at a time, located at different places, such as the home, purse, etc.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
21. Impressive Governor!
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 05:21 PM
Jul 2022

Between this and his ads in Florida, he's revving up for a Presidential run some day....

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
26. the right wing
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 05:44 PM
Jul 2022

in the taker states... the states with higher death rates. with higher rates of obesity. with higher need for insulin. and that will never dawn on the RW voters

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
33. GMTA...my first thought also...
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 05:57 PM
Jul 2022


When the market fails the citizens, the government has a duty to step in and provide necessities.

dchill

(38,505 posts)
30. What can I say. EVERY state needs a governor like him!
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 05:49 PM
Jul 2022

ESPECIALLY the red states. What is it that they're not getting?

ultralite001

(894 posts)
32. On January 23rd, 1923, Banting...
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 05:54 PM
Jul 2022

Best, and Collip were awarded the American patents for insulin which they sold to the University of Toronto for $1.00 each.

[link:|]

About the sale of the patent of insulin for $1, Banting reportedly said,

“Insulin belongs to the world, not to me.”


For more of this story:

[link:https://bantinghousenhs.ca/2018/12/14/insulin-patent-sold-for-1/|]

Ms. Toad

(34,076 posts)
43. That insulin can currently be purchased for around $25 at Walmart, and many other places.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 06:29 PM
Jul 2022

It is not perfect, but is as functional now as it was then, and provides an affordable option (albeit with much more hassle).

What is very expensive now are insulin analogs (synthetic insulins), which are not covered by the patent. It is easier to control diabetes using insulin analogs than it is with human insulin.

kimbutgar

(21,163 posts)
35. He was a great mayor and happy he's now our governor.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 06:04 PM
Jul 2022

I laughed today that someone said he couldn’t be president because he had an affair while he was married the first time not knowing His wife was cheating on him not long after they got married and tell me again how many times has TFG cheated on his wives?

flying_wahini

(6,606 posts)
39. A friend from New Zealand arrived in California and had lost his bottle of insulin.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 06:21 PM
Jul 2022

The drug store charged him a Thousand dollars for it. It’s been about 7 years ago, but still.

Ms. Toad

(34,076 posts)
41. Wonder if he will implement the same measures for all other life-saving medicine
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 06:22 PM
Jul 2022

My daughter is on a biologic which costs $200,000/year. It is no longer keeping her IBD in check, so she may have to halve the interval, doubling the costs to $400,000/year.

Neither insulin nor the biologic my daughter is taking are the only exorbitantly expensive life-saving medications.

While the very expensive insulin is preferred, earlier insulins are functional and far cheaper - why focus on insulin (which has a functional and affordable option) rather than other way more expensive medications for which there are no functional or affordable equivalents.

I have T1 insulin diabetics in my family and among friends and relatives - as well as a number of people who take biologics, or other expensive drugs. So I know both sides of this dichotomy.

I am also living with two cancers - and the "sexy" - less deadly one gets far more public attention and freebies than does the far more aggressive and deadly one. For example - I could have had a free breast reconstruction for not only to fix the invisible-when-I-am-wearing-clothes indent the breast from which they removed the tumor - but the other breast, as well, to make them match. Reconstruction of both breasts is treated as medically necessary and insurance has to pay for it (by law). BUT insurance treats as a cosmetic imperfection my 2.5" diameter "shark bite" with heavy stitching scars to 3.5" on my forearm which is visible every time I wear short sleeves. If I want it less obvious, I have to pay for the surgery to repair the damage left by the surgery to remove the tumor.

Sorry for kicking a gift horse in the teeth - but I'm tired of rare/orphan diseases, or less sexy diseases, receiving less medical care - and being subjected to different rules for insurance coverage.

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
45. This seems pretty popular
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 06:31 PM
Jul 2022

Only one person in the thread outright crapped all over the idea. A good sign, I think.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
46. Newsom is going to get a lot of orders from around the whole country.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 06:39 PM
Jul 2022

I wonder if CA will become the new Capitol... We may be 3 hours behind DC, but we are leagues ahead of the country where it counts.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
49. Yes indeed! West is Best.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 08:06 PM
Jul 2022

Last edited Fri Jul 8, 2022, 04:02 PM - Edit history (1)

And that’s likely to be a boost to the California economy.

Truth_Serum

(14 posts)
50. I'm very happy a politician is talking about this
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 01:43 AM
Jul 2022

and I wholeheartedly hope it comes to fruition. I've been an RN for 30 years....and the stories I could tell!! I've thought for DECADES that the gov't should go into making critical items that people need, especially for their health, due to companies that are charging extortion prices and basically killing people.

I think the gov't should cut the patents way down in terms of years/when generics can be produced, especially since the NIH is the world’s largest government funder of biomedical research.

I also think the gov't should be making a handful of critical medications, such as insulin, biologics - especially due to extreme price gouging, emergency medications like Epipens, orphan drugs [some may need to Google that] chemo drugs, and my real pet peeve - fluids like Normal Saline, Lactated Ringers [a.k.a. Ringer's Lactate] due to those companies price gouging and having "supply issues."

I'd even be happy for the gov't to get into baby formula production so another shortage like the one going on now never happens again. Think of all the jobs that would be created with everything I've just listed in this comment.

I know this is all "Pollyanna"-ish and almost 99% of my wish list will never happen. But that still doesn't stop me from wanting it to happen. I also wish for things like universal healthcare, guaranteed maternity/paternity leave, universal preschool, college or trade schools fully funded, guaranteed time off, etc. Basically, I should have been born in a Scandinavian country, lol.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
51. The CA state government will not be making the insulin.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 02:01 AM
Jul 2022

The State of California is going to contract with a manufacturer to produce it.

Truth_Serum

(14 posts)
52. Yeah, I know that
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 02:12 AM
Jul 2022

Still wish they would get into the manufacturing side of it, along with the other things I mentioned in my post. Wishful thinking!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
54. I am SO GLAD that my transgendered grandchild lives there and will go to a state college there.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 01:14 PM
Jul 2022

Her school was eager to offer her support through its own practices in the public schools. This is exactly what she needs going forward.

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