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In the past few weeks, some DU folks have opined that they'd never come here if they lived abroad.
Fortunately for New York, plenty of foreigners are.
On Tuesday, the Lellis had breakfast at a Dunkin Donuts in Times Square, sampling the chain restaurants signature fried dough for the first time. Then they headed downtown to check out Wall Street, Chinatown and Little Italy before seeking out more off-the-beaten track destinations.
We wanted to get some freedom back and why not come to New York, Lelli said. We knew when we booked the trip there was some risk of cancellation and things like that, but why not take the risk.
Today, millions of people like Lelli have decided to follow the same path and, in a sign of hope for the citys economy, tourism to New York City is rebounding much stronger than expected
https://www.thecity.nyc/economy/2022/7/6/23197456/tourists-back-nyc-fear-crime-day-trippers-hotels-restaurants.
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)They loved everything but the rats.
That freaked them out , it was on the subway tracks so not close to them but that was the big downside
My daughter even dropped her wallet and a guy picked it up and chased her to return it, shows theres good people everywhere!
electric_blue68
(14,913 posts)say a Boston, Wisconsin, Southern, Texas accent, or International ones.
I ask if they're first time or revisiting. I thank them for visiting, and ask how it going for them
It's fun. 👍🙂
If I'm not in a rush - appointment,vor store closing soon if I see people looking at a map I'll see if they need help.
I like okaying tour guide. I love 🥰 my city!
And many people helped me when I went across the country fully, and 2/3rd of the.
And helpful French people in Paris.
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)Everyone else does
lol
Jkjk
electric_blue68
(14,913 posts)You'll get a laugh I think
.When I travel across the USA one time someone told me - cause I chat a bit with seatmate that I don't sound
like an NYC'r.
I was confused (in my head).
Later I thought - maybe from older movies where you had the "tiody-toird" (thirty-third) Street accent ?
highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)speech. Particularly North Midland.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Midland_American_English
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/General_American_English
My dad worked in radio for a while and I was always told that northern, but not too far north, Midwest and (eastern) Great Plains was the broadcast standard for avoiding acents. Too far north in the Dakotas or Minnesota and you get a noticeable accent. Similarly, southern Missouri is too far south. The North Midland region starts in Pennsylvania and runs west to eastern Kansas and Nebraska. But experts do see accent and dialect changes continuing.
Anyway...what questionseverything said about central Illinois not having an accent is correct.
electric_blue68
(14,913 posts)Heh that Midland speech showing up in Charleston SC, Austin, Tx! Heh.
That California white guy - I never would have, well I guess should say I don't know what a "white" California accent would sound like - I detected no accent!
DFW
(54,410 posts)They were from German TV, and they were asking me about what I thought of Hillary in the primaries (a few years ago, obviously). I said, well if you're from German TV, then I'll speak German. They were blown away, said I could speak like a native, but they couldn't use my interview, since the average German viewer would never believe they had stopped a random American on the street in NYC, and he just happened to speak fluent German, and had met Hillary a few times.
electric_blue68
(14,913 posts)DFW
(54,410 posts)You should NEVER discount the possibility that someone in the street might be fluent in ANY language spoken today, or even some spoken no longer.
Actually, much of America is like that. I was with my family in Honoka'a, Hawai'i a little over 2 months ago, in a tiny shop, when I was astonished to hear Catalan being spoken behind me. I turned around and spoke to the Catalan-speaking couple, who were floored that in some tiny town on the Big Island with a population numbering in the hundreds, not thousands, that they would happen upon an American who spoke Catalan. Things like that have happened to me even in NYC as well. Never EVER assume no one understands what you are saying, because that is just the moment when you are standing next to someone who understands you perfectly.
That goes for Americans, too, by the way. When Obama was set to announce his choice for VP in 2008, I knew who it was about 10 hours before he announced it publicly. My nephew, who looks like a full-blooded Japanese (his mom is) and was somewhat small in stature even at age 18, was at an indoor pool in northern Virginia that day very early in the morning. The only other people there were two staffers from then-Senator Biden's office. They had been informed already and, figuring the only other person at the pool was some Asian kid who obviously understood no English, jabbered away about how excited they were that Biden would be Obama's pick for VP. My nephew doesn't even speak Japanese, and that summer, he was interning for the DC office of the Texas Democrats. Born and raised in Virginia, his English was just fine, needless to say. But he wisely didn't say a word, and then came home and told his dad, my brother, who immediately let me in on the news. By the way, I did let DU know, but said that I couldn't reveal my source, since I didn't want to get anyone in trouble. I was roundly trashed (LINK????) with a scornful round of "how do YOU know?" and "what makes YOU so special?" and only one of them apologized. Oh, well.....
I waited YEARS to tell the story, too. Some people in DC read DU, and in case any of the two women at that pool that day had stayed on with Biden when he became VP, I didn't want it tossed in their faces until it was very old news.
DFW
(54,410 posts)My elder daughter, born and raised in our medieval town outside Düsseldorf, spent the last two years of her college studies there, and said, "this is home," and has lived there ever since. It's not everyone's favorite place to visit or live, but it sure is the favorite place to visit and/or live for a LOT of people.
electric_blue68
(14,913 posts)I know for some people it's a Big No!
But I'm sure glad that so many love to visit ...
except for very rude, very careless people.
And I guess more Magats would stay away.
Since I've never known anything else- although I spent a lot of time w my cousins as a kid, and mid teen in a No. NJ town a modest Central section with some appartment buildings, but mostly single, and double homes, and a few mansions - I sort of have a feel for it, too.
I love being here, and in a World City.
Elessar Zappa
(14,004 posts)I believe the crime issue to be overblown.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)in Manhattan, when I believe the crime rate was worse than it is now, but I found it a fascinating city, with most of the people I met very friendly and helpful to people who weren't natives. I lived on the Upper East Side, the West Side, and the Murray Hill district. Loved Central Park, the museums, the restaurants and the clubs.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)Boerum Hill, Cobble Hill, Brooklyn Bridge Park and Brooklyn Heights. They're BAAAAACK!
electric_blue68
(14,913 posts)Prospect Hgts for much of the '00s.
I'd go partly by bus on Flatbush Av then either walk up, or bus some on Atlantic Ave then go walking on Smith St.
There was a ? Brazilian restaurant I'd go to, also further south a wonderful French Cafe. May have had my first 🧡 macarons there.
I also definitely went several time there specifically for Bastille Day. I'd end up at that cafe, but along the way they had a few blocks of petenque going on. That was fun to watch. Sometimes there was singing.
Fun memories!
Hopefully next Bastille Day frikkin' covid will be waaay less, or fucking gone and ai could go again.
And this time I'll have been in Paris!
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)The area is changing a lot. Lots of buildings going up. But this summer definitely feels buzzy and busy. Smith Street has Open Streets on Saturdays now (no cars) and it feels festive and fun and lovely. (5th avenue in Park Slope has same.)
Lots of good changes and bad changes.... but still love living here.
Voltaire2
(13,067 posts)Tourism is up beyond expectations but somehow crime is keeping tourists away.
Same old lawnorder fear mongering, which as always doesnt pass the racist sniff test.