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tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 07:36 PM Jul 2022

Just so we are clear, Why BG plead guilty

Keep in mind, that she is charged with
large-scale transportation of drugs

Experts have said any deal to release Griner would almost certainly require an admission of guilt by the American star, regardless of the facts. A source familiar with the strategy said that by pleading guilty, Griner gets that out of the way. And while it could complicate public reaction to her case, one source said the thought was to just get her home however possible and deal with the fallout when she returns.

Ryabkov noted that until Griner's trial is over, "there are no formal or procedural reasons to talk about any further steps.''
https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/34205952/detained-wnba-star-brittney-griner-pleads-guilty-drug-charges-russia?platform=amp
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Just so we are clear, Why BG plead guilty (Original Post) tulipsandroses Jul 2022 OP
Does pleading guilty hurry the trial along? jimfields33 Jul 2022 #1
Yes... now the WH can start negotiations for a prisoner swap. WarGamer Jul 2022 #3
Dave Zirin (Edge of Sports) concurs. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2022 #2
Those tattoos claudette Jul 2022 #5
Oh my! Ptah Jul 2022 #6
Because she likes them? mercuryblues Jul 2022 #9
That makes sense claudette Jul 2022 #12
Claudette, go to a gym where most of one's body is exposed. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2022 #19
That's probably true claudette Jul 2022 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Aug 2022 #33
What the fuck is this shit right here. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #10
You're showing your age. It's a generational thing. brush Jul 2022 #14
You're right about that claudette Jul 2022 #15
It seems more people are inked than aren't. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2022 #18
Yep. Here's a story sort of related. brush Jul 2022 #20
I like football, Aaron Rodgers not so much. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2022 #21
He's from Cal, the Bay Area, so I thought being from that area... brush Jul 2022 #23
I believe he has a home in Thousand Oaks. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2022 #25
I have 2 a huge "tramp stamp" of roses (part of my name) demtenjeep Jul 2022 #28
Your body. Your choice. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2022 #29
would you say the same for a male NBA player? demtenjeep Jul 2022 #26
In addition 99% of people are convicted in Russian courts whether guilty or not. scarletlib Jul 2022 #4
yeah, everyone on earth outside of russia knows it is bullshit Takket Jul 2022 #7
I'm guessing she had been waved through before with small amounts for personal use Ex Lurker Jul 2022 #8
I am guessing it was planted on her because of her celebrity rurallib Jul 2022 #13
It's interesting that they arrested her several weeks before the invasion of Ukraine. Calista241 Jul 2022 #24
As Malcolm Nance always says: Coincidence takes a lot of planning rurallib Jul 2022 #30
You're probably right, a small amount for personal use... brush Jul 2022 #16
We don't know the facts of the case, just what the Russian Propaganda Machine tells us. But if what tulipsandroses Jul 2022 #22
K&R. This is routine. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #11
A minor infraction that might ordinarily be overlooked can suddenly take on momentous importance whe keithbvadu2 Jul 2022 #17
She is getting special treatment because she is a sports star ripcord Jul 2022 #31
I have no doubt there will be a swap of prisoners FakeNoose Jul 2022 #32

jimfields33

(15,823 posts)
1. Does pleading guilty hurry the trial along?
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 07:41 PM
Jul 2022

It’s said it would last two months. Plus if she gets time, does she get time served? It’d be pretty unfair to sit in jail six months without it counting towards the total.

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
2. Dave Zirin (Edge of Sports) concurs. . .
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 07:43 PM
Jul 2022


Read the headline folks. I don't trust that she's guilty and I frankly don't care. She has to do this as prereq to a swap. Bring Brittney home.

claudette

(3,578 posts)
5. Those tattoos
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 08:08 PM
Jul 2022

maybe won't gain her any sympathy for some people. Why is all that necessary? Just asking.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
9. Because she likes them?
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 08:14 PM
Jul 2022

I got mine because I like it. I could give a rat's ass that some random person doesn't like it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
19. Claudette, go to a gym where most of one's body is exposed.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 09:13 PM
Jul 2022

It seems there are many more people that are inked than aren't.

claudette

(3,578 posts)
27. That's probably true
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:39 PM
Jul 2022

But, I only mentioned it because of the excessive number of tattoos. I didn't mean to sound like I was attacking those who have a tattoo. I'm sorry.

Response to claudette (Reply #27)

brush

(53,791 posts)
14. You're showing your age. It's a generational thing.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 08:42 PM
Jul 2022

Last edited Thu Jul 7, 2022, 09:25 PM - Edit history (1)

There's noting negative about 'tats' to the younger generations nowadays.

claudette

(3,578 posts)
15. You're right about that
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 08:49 PM
Jul 2022

I guess I remember them being identified with bikers! But, she is a very talented athlete
who doesn't fall into that category!

brush

(53,791 posts)
20. Yep. Here's a story sort of related.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 09:22 PM
Jul 2022

Last edited Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:08 PM - Edit history (1)

Don't know if you're a football fan but QB Aaron Rodgers just got one that it seems you need to be a seventh degree Mason to decipher.

brush

(53,791 posts)
23. He's from Cal, the Bay Area, so I thought being from that area...
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:10 PM
Jul 2022

he'd be sort of left-leaning, then I found out he was a trumper and I don't watch his games anymore.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
25. I believe he has a home in Thousand Oaks.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:29 PM
Jul 2022

That's about twenty miles from where I live. An acquaintance of mine from L A Fitness saw him at a 7-11 with sunglasses on and asked to take a picture with him. He even asked him to take the sunglasses off so people would know it was him and he complied. So he must not be a totally bad guy.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
28. I have 2 a huge "tramp stamp" of roses (part of my name)
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:41 PM
Jul 2022

have an anchor on my inner arm-my love of the ocean



gonna get a music G Cleft entwined with the Bass Cleft and it will look like a heart

at 55 I think that will be my last one. Not sure if I will get it upper mid back or under my hair line yet but soon

scarletlib

(3,412 posts)
4. In addition 99% of people are convicted in Russian courts whether guilty or not.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 07:47 PM
Jul 2022

I read that if you have the temerity to plead not guilty it makes the judges angry. Then after they find you guilty anyway, they give you a longer sentence.

Takket

(21,577 posts)
7. yeah, everyone on earth outside of russia knows it is bullshit
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 08:11 PM
Jul 2022

the guilty plea is meaningless. it just allows putin some red meat to throw at his base to say "look at the awful american i'm protecting you from". if he really needs a "win" that bad, let him have it, and hopefully it speeds her return.

Ex Lurker

(3,814 posts)
8. I'm guessing she had been waved through before with small amounts for personal use
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 08:13 PM
Jul 2022

Because of the international situation, this time was different.

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
13. I am guessing it was planted on her because of her celebrity
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 08:19 PM
Jul 2022

that they could use as a bargaining chip.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
24. It's interesting that they arrested her several weeks before the invasion of Ukraine.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:23 PM
Jul 2022

like they knew they'd need a bargaining chip.

brush

(53,791 posts)
16. You're probably right, a small amount for personal use...
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 08:58 PM
Jul 2022

but the political situation had change since she entered Russia last off season. What with the Russian troop build-up going on for months and war imminent, just a week off, she was seen as a possible future bargaining chip, so she was detained.

Wrong place, wrong time.

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
22. We don't know the facts of the case, just what the Russian Propaganda Machine tells us. But if what
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 09:43 PM
Jul 2022

you are suggesting is true. She was able to get away with it before, then we have a problem on our side. How was BG able to get through US CUSTOMS with contraband multiple times before she got to Russia.?

Shit they’ve made me throw out perfume, face cream and food items. Pulled me off the line once to X-ray the cast on my broken arm. Must have fit the description of someone who would fake a broken arm to hide a bomb.

Where did they find the Vape Pens? Was it in checked luggage? You are not allowed to check vape pens. They can be on your person or in your carry on luggage. If they say it was in her checked luggage. That’s a lie. If it was in her carry on, someone or several people need to be fired in US CUSTOMS if she had been getting away with this.

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
17. A minor infraction that might ordinarily be overlooked can suddenly take on momentous importance whe
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 09:08 PM
Jul 2022

A minor infraction that might ordinarily be overlooked can suddenly take on momentous importance when politics gets involved with a pissing contest.

ripcord

(5,409 posts)
31. She is getting special treatment because she is a sports star
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:25 AM
Jul 2022

Paul Whelan's family is right to call out this administration over this, they sure haven't received any personal attention from the President. Trevor Reed says the first priority should be Whelan since he has been detained longer and was ignored in the last swap.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
32. I have no doubt there will be a swap of prisoners
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:29 AM
Jul 2022

We'll give up one or more Russian prisoners and then we'll be able to bring Brittney home.
This is all a diplomatic dance. The Russians know how to play the game and so do our guys.

There's a very good Tom Hanks/Mark Rylance/Steven Spielberg movie from a few years ago that demonstrates this entire process. Check out Bridge of Spies 2015.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3682448/

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